The Dark Knight Capes and Cowls - New Batsuit Discussion Thread

[BatmanFanatic]

Which were obviously key to Kilmer's crime fighting arsenal: distract, confuse, and terrify the enemy with the Incredible Bat-Nipples, and then proceed to dispatch him (or her).

Bale's strategy is to distract them with roadmaps. Not as effective.

Agreed.

 

[BatmanFanatic]

Or perhaps he took inspiration from Prison Break, and the legs are actually an intricate design that helps him remember his Secret Mob-Crushing Plan.

Or like Dumbledore, who had a scar in the exact shape of the London underground on his knee which was quite handy.

I'm sure there is a great, realistic explanation for the awful looking design and we'll be enlightened on the 18th

 

[Nepenthes]

that's cool but still would like to know what's so special about the cape.

it folds up into his back. like batwings. it's seen in the beginning of the trailer when he jumps off the building.

 

[BatmanFanatic]

it folds up into his back. like batwings. it's seen in the beginning of the trailer when he jumps off the building.

I hope not. Geez, they just can't stop taking everything iconically "batman" out of "batman" can they?

We almost didn't get a bat symbol on the chest, now it will be no cape for half the shots...

 

[batman11]

I hope not. Geez, they just can't stop taking everything iconically "batman" out of "batman" can they?

We almost didn't get a bat symbol on the chest, now it will be no cape for half the shots...

You really are a negative nancy aren't you?

 

[BatmanFanatic]

You really are a negative nancy aren't you?

Am I an optimist if it's 1/4 of the shots?

 

[batman11]

Am I an optimist if it's 1/4 of the shots?

You tell me.

I'm just not sure how you can judge how often we see Bats folding up his cape into his suit, when A) we only know for sure that it happens in 1 scene in Hong Kong and B) almost every single shot of Bats I've seen from the movie (off the top of my head, excluding the Hong Kong Scene), he's wearing his cape. So...

And besides, I was attempting to make my post in jest, but your "" suggests you did not find it humorous.

Oh well.

 

[BatmanFanatic]

You tell me.

I'm just not sure how you can judge how often we see Bats folding up his cape into his suit, when A) we only know for sure that it happens in 1 scene in Hong Kong and B) almost every single shot of Bats I've seen from the movie (off the top of my head, excluding the Hong Kong Scene), he's wearing his cape. So...

And besides, I was attempting to make my post in jest, but your "" suggests you did not find it humorous.

Oh well.

It's okay. You have a point, we've only seen it in one shot. And I hope it stays that way I'm just not pleased with the art direction for this suit... at ALL. I doubt if any of these costume designers have even looked at the comic books, or if they just saw B89 and decided to "improve the neck" and "make it more modern" or whatever. They're taking old bad ideas and somehow managing to make them worse by improving upon them for the sake of "functionality" rather than trying to improve upon them for the sake of "character authenticity." The beautiful gothic aesthetics of Batman are lost, he's become a robocop transformer toy soldier. Even the puffy ninja look was far superior...

 

[zmystico]

I think the "folding cape" is kinda cool, in some instances it will help, say in the middle of a fight? However, some things about Batman should never change...the symbol on his chest, the ears on the cowl, the utility belt, and he wears a cape, you just don't remove any of those things. I saw the action figure based on the fold up cape, I didn't like how the toy looked, but that doesn't mean it will look the same in the film.

 

[The Caped Knight]

The suit looks Incredible .

 

[Aidan2209]

The suit looks Incredible .

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT SHOULD LOOK CREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!! MY REALISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!....................................gone.

But seriously, I liked the suit the first time I saw it, and nothing's changed my mind since. And despite my above antics, I do enjoy the more realistic treatment of the character. Batman's the sort of character that should look good as well, and I personally think he does.

 

[Nightmare]

The suit looks Incredible .

Doesnt it? Love that he can finally turn his neck.

 

[Wushuboy]

i wonder what james acheson would have come up with.

 

[Ammo]

I think the suit is perfect, personally.

Something tells me if this level of sophistication was around when Batman was first created, his suit would resemble this. But it wasn't around in either real life or comics.

 

[Mr. Earle]

I believe (and hope) that the cape stores into the backpack for practical reasons. He probably has it there at first just to climb up the building but then the cape is at its normal form.

I dont think that he stores it everytime he fights. Judging by the fight with the SWAT members of course...

EDIT: Batman doesnt store the cape even when he rides the Batpod which would have been recommended. He would have less drag and less danger of having it tangled up somewhere. So i guess there is a reason and a special time for the use of the backpack.

 

[Bat-Mite]

I hope not. Geez, they just can't stop taking everything iconically "batman" out of "batman" can they?

We almost didn't get a bat symbol on the chest, now it will be no cape for half the shots...

Is there really any reason to say that we almost didn't get a bat symbol? I mean, I might be wrong... I don't remember the exact quote from the article, but all I remember was that they were saying they discussed the matter. I never got the feeling that it was in actual danger of being left out.

As for the comment about the cape... wow. Just when you thought the nitpicking on SHH! couldn't get any more petty. But it's not the criticism itself of him being capeless that seems so outlandish to me, but the way you worded it. As if you honestly think he's going to be capeless for half of the film. Not that I should be surprised, given your penchant for over the top exaggeration.

But what am I saying? You're right. One of the things I hated the most about the animated series was how they totally screwed up their tendency to be faithful to the comics by showing a capeless Batman! Oh, what an abomination it was! I'm surprised parents didn't force their children to stop watching the show as soon as they put that on there.

Oh, just looking at those screencaps makes me sick to my stomach! It would be much better for them to let Batman die in style than to have him remove his cape in a perilous fight. Everybody knows that Batman looking snazzy is much more integral to his mission than taking down the bad guys. And removing the cape to actually USE it against his foes? Why would he ever do that!? Ridiculous!

 

[selinakyle415]

Is there really any reason to say that we almost didn't get a bat symbol? I mean, I might be wrong... I don't remember the exact quote from the article, but all I remember was that they were saying they discussed the matter. I never got the feeling that it was in actual danger of being left out.

As for the comment about the cape... wow. Just when you thought the nitpicking on SHH! couldn't get any more petty. But it's not the criticism itself of him being capeless that seems so outlandish to me, but the way you worded it. As if you honestly think he's going to be capeless for half of the film. Not that I should be surprised, given your penchant for over the top exaggeration.

But what am I saying? You're right. One of the things I hated the most about the animated series was how they totally screwed up their tendency to be faithful to the comics by showing a capeless Batman! Oh, what an abomination it was! I'm surprised parents didn't force their children to stop watching the show as soon as they put that on there.

Oh, just looking at those screencaps makes me sick to my stomach! It would be much better for them to let Batman die in style than to have him remove his cape in a perilous fight. Everybody knows that Batman looking snazzy is much more integral to his mission than taking down the bad guys. And removing the cape to actually USE it against his foes? Why would he ever do that!? Ridiculous!

I agree.

Thanks for making me cry today.

 

[SheldonLevene]

It's okay. You have a point, we've only seen it in one shot. And I hope it stays that way I'm just not pleased with the art direction for this suit... at ALL. I doubt if any of these costume designers have even looked at the comic books, or if they just saw B89 and decided to "improve the neck" and "make it more modern" or whatever. They're taking old bad ideas and somehow managing to make them worse by improving upon them for the sake of "functionality" rather than trying to improve upon them for the sake of "character authenticity." The beautiful gothic aesthetics of Batman are lost, he's become a robocop transformer toy soldier. Even the puffy ninja look was far superior...

This is a joke right, because if not it's one of the more ignorant things I've read since...well yesterday when you said nose holes so the actor can breathe were bad creative direction.

 

[Aidan2209]

And as for the discussion about leaving the symbol off the suit all together...

Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh and Phillipa Boyens almost had Aragorn fight a corporeal Sauron at the end of The Return of the King.

This sin was not commited.

 

[SheldonLevene]

I think the suit is perfect, personally.

Something tells me if this level of sophistication was around when Batman was first created, his suit would resemble this. But it wasn't around in either real life or comics.

This is a cool point and I tend to agree. Despite the fact that a suit like this would be hard to draw.

 

[Gianakin_]

And as for the discussion about leaving the symbol off the suit all together...

Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh and Phillipa Boyens almost had Aragorn fight a corporeal Sauron at the end of The Return of the King.

This sin was not commited.

Why, why did you have to remind me of that heresy?

 

[Bat-Mite]

I agree.

Thanks for making me cry today.

My apologies. I should have put those pictures in spoiler tags so as to prevent bringing back traumatic memories. Ah well, the damage is done, I suppose.

Spoiler

 

[Aidan2209]

I recognise the second one from a Joker episode. He spreads laughing gas all over Gotham, hence the mask.

 

[Gianakin_]

My apologies. I should have put those pictures in spoiler tags so as to prevent bringing back traumatic memories. Ah well, the damage is done, I suppose.

Oh, I sense a "Nolan raped my childhood" movement forming...

 

[Kaizer]

And as for the discussion about leaving the symbol off the suit all together...

Peter Jackson, Fran Walsh and Phillipa Boyens almost had Aragorn fight a corporeal Sauron at the end of The Return of the King.

This sin was not commited.

because experienced filmmakers know that books and film are two different types of media and sometimes things need to be changed in order to fit the particular artistic expression?

I'm not necessarily defending the Sauron-thing, but I can see the reason behind it.