The Dark Knight Capes and Cowls - New Batsuit Discussion Thread

[Nivek]

God, up close it looks even worse. And, seeing how thick the fabric underneath is, it seems asinine to me that they couldn't have put it over the 'armor'.

And, that neck. Yeesh.

Well, I love this suit the best as far as making a batman armor realistic. I really, really like the cloth mesh bodysuit underneath and I dont know why some people think it looks bad.

But I dont understand why it cant be slimmed down even more, remove some of the rigid armor, and why some of you biatch about the damn lenses. Then again I'm convinced people confuse Iron Man and Batman.

 

[Superhobo]

Well, I love this suit the best as far as making a batman armor realistic. I really, really like the cloth mesh bodysuit underneath and I dont know why some people think it looks bad.

The legs look like maps of the London Underground, the head looks like an egg, the chest and stomach areas are monstrosities of design, etc., etc.

But I dont understand why it cant be slimmed down even more,

It already weighs eight pounds more than the original suit.

remove some of the rigid armor,

Most of it looks pretty rigid, because the entire top armor-layer of the suit is composed of rubber and fiberglass, mostly.

and why some of you biatch about the damn lenses.

I haven't complained about them specifically, but I can see why some would.

Then again I'm convinced people confuse Iron Man and Batman.

 

[lujho]

I understand if you don't like the look of the suit, but putting the fabric over it would be asinine. By doing so, you loose all mobility, and proper protection that the fabric is used for. Its very much the same way a Knight used to suit up. If he put the chain-mail over his armor, then he would loose all mobility, and maybe have everything slip off. Its for practicality, not aesthetics.

But it's not chainmail and armour, it's fabric and rubber. Plenty of ther suits have had perfect mobility when putting the fabric over the rubber instead of under it.

Could you take the TDK suit exactly as is and switch the layers around? Well, probably not - thge armour wasn't sculpted to have cloth slide around under it easily, and of course the suit would have to be a bit bigger to fit over the padding. And you wouldn't neccessarily even use that exact same material, but there's no reason it couldn't be designed from scratch to be made like that and have full mobility.

 

[lujho]

You know what would probably look really cool and play into the 'creature aspect' of Batman. If there were a fabric of some sort over the armor; nothing crazy or over elaborat(could be explained as something to regulate the temperature). Then as he is in fight it tears and reveal portions of the armor underneath so its like exposed bones.
I'm sure similar things ahve been discussed but that image I think would look really interesting on film.

Yeah, that could be cool. Though the armour would have to be designed to look like it just happens to evoke some organic structure, rather than being sculpted to look like real bone or anything.

Or what about muscle? I get this strange image of Batman wearing a sleek armour suit that looks something like the red muscular armour that Gary Oldman wore in Dracula - with something over the top that looks like charcoal-grey leathery sharkskin or something (some kind of skinned neoprene or something). Then a big gash in the outer skin so it looks like he's wounded. A bit over the top admittedly, but an interesting image.

 

[mcallima]

You know what would probably look really cool and play into the 'creature aspect' of Batman. If there were a fabric of some sort over the armor; nothing crazy or over elaborat(could be explained as something to regulate the temperature). Then as he is in fight it tears and reveal portions of the armor underneath so its like exposed bones.
I'm sure similar things ahve been discussed but that image I think would look really interesting on film.

Like this:

 

[Travesty]

But it's not chainmail and armour, it's fabric and rubber. Plenty of ther suits have had perfect mobility when putting the fabric over the rubber instead of under it.

*sigh*

I understand this, and they could design to do whatever they wanted, but it is supposed to be a sort of chain-mail in the movie, as much as the rubber is supposed to be true armor. Like I said, it used for practicality.

I'm sure a full spandex suit would be even more mobile, but the story asked for more armor, so they suited up the Dark Knight to look like a Knight. Complicated? No.

 

[Nivek]

The legs look like maps of the London Underground, the head looks like an egg, the chest and stomach areas are monstrosities of design, etc., etc.

It's not that different than the first movies techy grid anatomy instead of sculpted muscles.

It already weighs eight pounds more than the original suit.

But Bale and the stuntmen have stated it's more comfortable, mobile, and most importantly, breathable. Thats what makes the difference.

Most of it looks pretty rigid, because the entire top armor-layer of the suit is composed of rubber and fiberglass, mostly.

A couple 1/4 inch pieces of urethane rubber and some spots of carbon fiber here and there. The undersuit is pretty much cloth. A vast design improvement, and more or less what I wanted to see the first time.

I haven't complained about them specifically, but I can see why some would.

Because they expect them to blink and contract, who the hell can guess.

The people who think Batman needs full body armor. His skills are in his head, not the costume.

 

[Nightwing1977]

Wow...a lot of morons on this forum.

Geez, I wonder why you are here then. If a lot of people are morons on a forum, I wouldn't hang around.

 

[Superhobo]

It's not that different than the first movies techy grid anatomy instead of sculpted muscles.

On the legs?

But Bale and the stuntmen have stated it's more comfortable, mobile, and most importantly, breathable. Thats what makes the difference.

Mobility is arguable, I think, now that I've seen footage of Bale in the older one that doesn't look like it was shot by an epileptic chimp.

A couple 1/4 inch pieces of urethane rubber and some spots of carbon fiber here and there.

The entirety of the legs, the armor exoskeleton, shoulder pads, etc., it's all rubber and fiberglass. Some of it's pretty thick, from the close-up shots earlier in the thread.

The undersuit is pretty much cloth. A vast design improvement, and more or less what I wanted to see the first time.

I agree - now, if only it wasn't covered by all that that other crap, we'd be in bid'ness.

Because they expect them to blink and contract, who the hell can guess.

*shrugs*

The people who think Batman needs full body armor. His skills are in his head, not the costume.

I agree - but I've always been one to think that his body armor need not be readily visible, should he have any at all.

 

[millennium movies]

Man i come in this thread everytime looking for some new badass Batsuit pictures or concepts. That said, i can't wait to see all the stuff that will pop-up online after the film's release.

 

[Anubis Raptor]

Like this:

Wow

 

[TheBeastWithin]

I think the new suit is great. It's really grown on me. The BB suit was my favorite, but I like the new one's solution for neck movement and the segmented body armor over a mesh body suit idea, not to mention the hard plastic knuckles in the gloves. It's more practical and stylistically fits with the Tumbler and Batpod designs better.

 

[nameless_hero]

Not sure if this has been mentioned but the GG suit has a DK feel to the chest and shoulder armor.

 

[millennium movies]

LOL ^ (the manip)

 

[StarvingArtist]

Hey I may be late as hell on the uptake...but everybody here knows that batman will have the white lenses for at least part of the film, right?

Just making sure. Haven't kept up on the forums for a while

 

[nefti]

Hey I may be late as hell on the uptake...but everybody here knows that batman will have the white lenses for at least part of the film, right?

Just making sure. Haven't kept up on the forums for a while

I saw this one on tv today and even though it went by fast, it looked like the lenses were blinking white to blue.

 

[Saint]

Hey I may be late as hell on the uptake...but everybody here knows that batman will have the white lenses for at least part of the film, right?

Just making sure. Haven't kept up on the forums for a while

Yep, we've been on to that for a while. The production notes describe them as sonar imaging lenses.

 

[CaptainClown]

i hope thats not the final design it looks awful.

 

[Anubis Raptor]

Hey I may be late as hell on the uptake...but everybody here knows that batman will have the white lenses for at least part of the film, right?

Just making sure. Haven't kept up on the forums for a while

Reminds me of the cartoon.

 

[The Dark Guybrush]

^ great avvy, Captain!
and I agree, not liking the lenses. is that a manip?

 

[CaptainClown]

^ great avvy, Captain!
and I agree, not liking the lenses. is that a manip?

thanks t:

Also its not a manip

 

[not_a_victim]

It's carbon fiber spot reinforcement, more like real life body armor than that sculpted rubber suit crap. They usually use it to make the reinforcement plates for cops vests because it's lighter than the ceramic insert plates.

I've been a cop for 10 years, never seen a carbon fiber trauma plate.
Steel, ceramic, and extra Kevlar is all that is out there.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Hey I may be late as hell on the uptake...but everybody here knows that batman will have the white lenses for at least part of the film, right?

Just making sure. Haven't kept up on the forums for a while

 

[obiwan]

thew white lenses look.....weird.

 

[Nightwatcher11]

I don't like them because they look fake to me, they're "glowing"? W/e though it's not like he always wears them during the intire movie.