The Dark Knight Capes and Cowls - New Batsuit Discussion Thread

[bunk]

What is even the argument here? If it's whether any part of the Begins suit was different, then I say doubtful. If they had made a new suit, it would be off the same mold anyway. Why bother making sculpt changes to it?

 

[I7eIVIoNBoY]

I will conceed that these two look very similar, but Bale himself has said that he did not put on as much of the muscle for TDK as he did for BB. A better comparison imo would be him sitting on the bed in BB (the shot of his back), and the from behind shot of him taking of the shirt in TDK. He is broader and thicker in BB.

are you super cereal?..

 

[Hobodeluxe]

teh puffy was very noticeable in the Begins suit vs the TDK suit for me.
to me the Begins suit looks like it's 4 inches thick in some places.

 

[SheldonLevene]

are you super cereal?..

????

 

[Dr. Crane]

they didn't sculpt a new suit.... that's silly talk...

look... the suit is foam latex... it shrinks on it's own... sure there is understructer.. neoprene... spandex with a four way stretch... but it's the same suit... the difference is bayle's size...

in BB.. that suit was TIGHT on him... thats why he talked about loosing feeling in his hands at times.. foam latex shrinks a lot... especially when it's sculpted over an inch thick.. which it was in many places... it probably fit him better this time around... but looks the same on him... except on the face... the cowl is thin enough so it won't shrink as much... in the beginning of DK when batman's talking to gordon in the vault... you can see in the close ups that it's loose around his eyes...

i promise.... same molds, same sculpt, same suit with new foam runs for the new movie...

 

[lujho]

Come on guys... they didn't re-design the Begins suit due to some negligable size difference. They surely made new suits from the old moulds though.

Look - Bale's weight decreased significantly WITHIN the shooting of Begins. He went from 200+ to about 180 or something, to the point that Lindy Hemming was continuously taking in Bales suits (as in Bruce Wayne's suits). But they never made smaller Batsuits as the Begins shoot went on, and there's no reason to think they would have needed to make any smaller one for TDK.

 

[javi1024]

im glad we got to see the sonar lenses on the cowl. now we can see how much more intimidating they don't make Batman look. people who argued that putting the white lenses on the cowl would be more faithful to the comics and give Batman a more menacing look were shown that it doesn't.

 

[Steyin]

I remember reading, and seeing posted here, that there were only one or two Tumblers in BB, and 10 made for TDK (due to more stunt work, which doesn't seem like there is more of for the car sequences), each costing a million bucks. I do know there is a picture of 3 tumblers together somewhere, perhaps in the production photos thread, but I do strongly recall reading 10 being made for TDK. I'm not going to bother looking for any articles, but don't take my word for it.

 

[bunk]

im glad we got to see the sonar lenses on the cowl. now we can see how much more intimidating they don't make Batman look. people who argued that putting the white lenses on the cowl would be more faithful to the comics and give Batman a more menacing look were shown that it doesn't.

Only- Intimidation, clearly wasn't a goal of the lenses for Nolan. They were just another useful device in his arsenal (and a plot device), not a means for frightening criminals.

 

[javi1024]

Only- Intimidation, clearly wasn't a goal of the lenses for Nolan. They were just another useful device in his arsenal (and a plot device), not a means for frightening criminals.

true, but if that wasn't the case and he wanted permanent lenses, could they have made them look better? the lenses looked pretty bad, and if they weren't used like they were i would have hated them.

 

[lujho]

true, but if that wasn't the case and he wanted permanent lenses, could they have made them look better? the lenses looked pretty bad, and if they weren't used like they were i would have hated them.

Yes, but they could have had a completely different look and looked much better. Saying TDK proves they don't look good is akin to saying Adam West's suit proves that a batsuit can't look good.

They portrayed the lenses in a way most people who wanted lenses were not asking for - large and actually glowing.

 

[Mandalore464]

I remember reading, and seeing posted here, that there were only one or two Tumblers in BB, and 10 made for TDK (due to more stunt work, which doesn't seem like there is more of for the car sequences), each costing a million bucks.

4 actual Tumblers (not counting the 6 1/12 scale models and other shot-specific non functional cars) were built for Batman Begins, each costing 250.000 dollars.

For some reason, the WB guys in charge of the Bat-Pod/Tumbler display in Toronto told us that a Tumbler was worth 2.2 millions. Even if they were talking in Canadian dollars, it's still a lot more than 250.000 USD...

 

[Saint]

4 actual Tumblers (not counting the 6 1/12 scale models and other shot-specific non functional cars) were built for Batman Begins, each costing 250.000 dollars.

For some reason, the WB guys in charge of the Bat-Pod/Tumbler display in Toronto told us that a Tumbler was worth 2.2 millions. Even if they were talking in Canadian dollars, it's still a lot more than 250.000 USD...

The Canadian dollar is presently worth as much as the American dollar (with minor fluctuation), so it wouldn't make a difference, anyway.

 

[Marden]

So after watching the movie I must say I liked the new suit. The BB suit has something special about it, too, but this one just looked much more comfortable in my eyes.

 

[The Caped Knight]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4hBtBfK0UM

 

[TheBat812]

Perhaps; but as we have seen, there is very little demonstrable difference in his dimensions, which suggests to me that if the suit was at all loose, it would not be to such a degree that sculpting an entirely new suit (which would be a considerable undertaking) would be warranted.


I'm inclined to believe that guy is full of it, because he says they only used scale models for the first film. This is an outright lie, as anyone can tell you (and as you can see from simply watching the film, not to mention the special features, articles on the production and so on). Regardless of his obvious stupidity, I accept the possibility that a Tumbler was built without my having heard of it (can't catch every bit of news, obviously), though it seems unlikely.

It is being done by a guy on these boards. youngbat, i believe. Very impressive, I might add.

 

[Saint]

It is being done by a guy on these boards. youngbat, i believe. Very impressive, I might add.

If you're talking about the fan built Tumbler, that's not what we're talking about.

 

[javi1024]

They portrayed the lenses in a way most people who wanted lenses were not asking for - large and actually glowing.

well people were saying that they wanted to see them glow, and if they made the eyeholes any smaller im sure it would contrict his field of vision.

 

[Saint]

well people were saying that they wanted to see them glow, and if they made the eyeholes any smaller im sure it would contrict his field of vision.

If we're talking about the actor's vision, not in any way that matters (see Daredevil). If we're talking about the character's vision, it doesn't matter. It's fiction. The cowl affects his hearing, too, but we don't care. This is no different.

 

[joke]

If we're talking about the actor's vision, not in any way that matters (see Daredevil). If we're talking about the character's vision, it doesn't matter. It's fiction. The cowl affects his hearing, too, but we don't care. This is no different.

But what about teh realism?! The suit has to be able to do everything in real life, just like in the movie!

 

[the GRIN Reaper]

im glad we got to see the sonar lenses on the cowl. now we can see how much more intimidating they don't make Batman look. people who argued that putting the white lenses on the cowl would be more faithful to the comics and give Batman a more menacing look were shown that it doesn't.

Yea I was clamoring to see his regular eyes cause they are much more interesting and intimidating then some dorky ass shield lenses or contact lenses. Looked ****ing stupid. Only criticism with the film.

 

[Shane Diesel]

im glad we got to see the sonar lenses on the cowl. now we can see how much more intimidating they don't make Batman look. people who argued that putting the white lenses on the cowl would be more faithful to the comics and give Batman a more menacing look were shown that it doesn't.

Agreed. It was a nice way to reference the white eyes but hopefully that's all it'll be limited to.

 

[Thespiralgoeson]

Yeah.... I'm not too sure about the lenses yet. It's good to know for absolute sure whether or not they're actually in the movie. They do look a little too round for my liking.

Actually somewhat similar to a manip I did a while back.

I really love this concept, but do you think you can make the trunks a little more V-shaped? They look sorta like boxers here. I could also do without the shortened ears and the lenses, but I like where your head's at. I've loved all of your designs so far. Nolan and crew need to fire their costume designer and hire you.

 

[dark_b]

If we're talking about the actor's vision, not in any way that matters (see Daredevil). If we're talking about the character's vision, it doesn't matter. It's fiction. The cowl affects his hearing, too, but we don't care. This is no different.

in BB they explained the bat-ears on the cowl. the guy can hear through walls. so i think he can here also better outside in the city.

 

[TheBat812]

If you're talking about the fan built Tumbler, that's not what we're talking about.

Well, that was the link you were linking to.