Cate Blanchett is the Mysterious & Powerful Villainess HELA!

[Bren]

And maybe Surtur is for her what the Destroyer armour was for the ruler of Asgard

 

[Dark Raven]

For the story to make sense, Thanos and Hela have to have met before the events of Ragnarok though. Thanos has already been gathering (or trying to gather) the infinity stones since The Avengers, so his motivation already has to exist. A simple flashback showing how Thanos and Hela met in the past (which must have been prior to Hela being imprisoned) and how Thanos fell crazy in love with Hela's deathly charms can easily explain that.

The audience will easily identify, who wouldn't destroy half the universe to try and impress Cate Blanchett as Hela? It would be more unrealistic if Thanos wasn't into Hela.



You may be onto something there, I've seen people in other places commenting how her sword in the trailer reminds them of All-Black the Necrosword which is Gorr's weapon because of the design and the fact that it seems to materialize out of nowhere. If that's true, I think Hela could end up being the most composited character in the history of the MCU. She's potentially a composite of:

• Hela (of course);
• Amora the Enchantress (her relationship with Skurge);
• Mistress Death;
• Cul/The Serpant (A dangerous enemy to Asgard who was imprisoned for a millennia and released in the current day - Cul also destroyed Cap's shield like Hela destroys Mjolnir); AND
• Gorr the God-Butcher.

Damn!

Is Thanos gathering the infinity stones for Hela/Death though, or is he just gathering it for himself to gain absolute power? Maybe his motivation is different, and he just falls in love along the way.

Marvel haven't really delved into the rom com genre. They could have a romcom with Josh Brolin and Cate Blanchett playing off each other, a bit like those old screwball comedies with Cary Grant and Katherine Hepburn. It could be the MCU version of Bringing Up Baby.

 

[MbJ]

For the story to make sense, Thanos and Hela have to have met before the events of Ragnarok though. Thanos has already been gathering (or trying to gather) the infinity stones since The Avengers, so his motivation already has to exist. A simple flashback showing how Thanos and Hela met in the past (which must have been prior to Hela being imprisoned) and how Thanos fell crazy in love with Hela's deathly charms can easily explain that.

The audience will easily identify, who wouldn't destroy half the universe to try and impress Cate Blanchett as Hela? It would be more unrealistic if Thanos wasn't into Hela.



You may be onto something there, I've seen people in other places commenting how her sword in the trailer reminds them of All-Black the Necrosword which is Gorr's weapon because of the design and the fact that it seems to materialize out of nowhere. If that's true, I think Hela could end up being the most composited character in the history of the MCU. She's potentially a composite of:

• Hela (of course);
• Amora the Enchantress (her relationship with Skurge);
• Mistress Death;
• Cul/The Serpant (A dangerous enemy to Asgard who was imprisoned for a millennia and released in the current day - Cul also destroyed Cap's shield like Hela destroys Mjolnir); AND
• Gorr the God-Butcher.

Damn!

Waititi also said the God Butcher storyline was his favorite Thor story he read as research.

 

[The Overlord]

Do we even know if the writers for Ragnarok use the name "Hela," specifically?

Fans will know the character's name from the comics, of course, but movie adaptations don't always use the name directly (though they usually refer to it in some way).

It's possible that the character may be presented as incarnating death in a broader sense from the beginning.

What else would they call her, its not like she has a civilian name.

Hela is based off of Hel, an actual character from Norse mythology.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hel_(being)

With some villains, like Obadiah Stane, you can call him by his civilian name, rather then his super villain name, you can't do that with a character from mythology.

 

[bubbadoom]

There is a shot of her far away with the Valkyries approaching her on the winged horses where she definitely looks like she has the cape.

yes, you can see it in the wide shot but not the close up when she throws the sword...

 

[Wildcard]

They have a chance to do that TWICE in one year (if they pull off Ayesha and Hela).

Even better. Two main female supervillains plus WW (finally) getting her own movie. Should be an amazing year for the female talent in cbm. Even in a worst case scenario, we can at least sleep soundly knowing it won't turn out like X-Men: Apocalypse (i.e introducing awesome female characters and doing absolutely nothing notable with them).

 

[HammerDown]

I wonder if this version of Hela will have some aspects of Gorr the Godbutcher?

Cate said that her suit will be able to be used as a weapon, and the being that Heimdall cuts down looks like some creature that has the black and green visuals of Hela so could that be some construct of hers? Having a suit as a weapon and creating creatures out of it is very Gorr, and since Waititi said he loved the Godbutcher arc it seems like a clear possibility that Hela will have some of his traits.

You're definitely on to something right here.
I could see a lot of things being drawn from that run (One of Taika Waititi's favorites apparently) specifically concerning the villain Gorr.

Cate said that she would be able to manifest weapons out of different parts of here body and that we already saw on the trailer with what appears to be "The Nightsword" appearing out of "nowhere".

I also hope and have a good feeling that Taika will downgrade Thor with the loss of the hammer... just to make his triumphant and epic return at the end of the movie for the big climax battle. I hope he goes "insane mode" as he did in the end of that run.

Spoiler

 

[HammerDown]

By closer inspection i noticed that a asgardian warrior on the left is being carved with 3 daggers/spikes that seems to come from Hela's headress... 1 is on the head and 2 are seen hiting him on the heart and stomach.

If you stop the TT at 1.05 you'll see it.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Wouldn't we be dealing with a Thanos that is thousands of years old if they go with him having met Hela before her imprisonment? That's a good question actually that I don't know the answer to off hand. In comics, how old is Thanos supposed to be? Under 100 years old? Hundreds or thousands of years old? Anyone have an answer? I've never bothered to consider it nor do I recall comics that I have read that make a point of it.

 

[JtheDreamer]

By closer inspection i noticed that a asgardian warrior on the left is being carved with 3 daggers/spikes that seems to come from Hela's headress... 1 is on the head and 2 are seen hiting him on the heart and stomach.

If you stop the TT at 1.05 you'll see it.

I'm not seeing her horns hit that guy at all.

 

[Flemm]

What else would they call her, its not like she has a civilian name.

Hela is based off of Hel, an actual character from Norse mythology.

Yeah, I'm familiar with the mythology.

My original question was somewhat rhetorical, I wasn't trying to argue that the name "Hela" would not be used. I'm sure it will be used in some form.

But I'm still curious about how the character will be presented, exactly.

They've been pretty careful to make it clear that the characters from Thor's universe are not gods, for one thing.

 

[MbJ]

Wouldn't we be dealing with a Thanos that is thousands of years old if they go with him having met Hela before her imprisonment? That's a good question actually that I don't know the answer to off hand. In comics, how old is Thanos supposed to be? Under 100 years old? Hundreds or thousands of years old? Anyone have an answer? I've never bothered to consider it nor do I recall comics that I have read that make a point of it.

Thanos is extremely old by human standards. His younger brother Starfox is said to be over 1000 years old, and was implied at one point to have been the basis for the Greek god Eros.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Thanos is extremely old by human standards. His younger brother Starfox is said to be over 1000 years old, and was implied at one point to have been the basis for the Greek god Eros.

Thanks. I knew the Titan Eternals were an offshoot of the Eternals based on Earth (Who had a series not long ago that claimed those Eternals were millions of years old) but I didn't know if Eros, Mentor, Thanos and the rest were supposed to be ancient as well. It's been a long time since I read any of those older comics.

 

[CoherentChaos]

I'm not seeing her horns hit that guy at all.

Guy on the far left, has black spikes sticking out of his armor.

 

[HammerDown]

I'm not seeing her horns hit that guy at all.

I didn't say that the horns directly hit him. It looks like it's being projected out of her body and against the asgardians. And i made the connection with the "headress" because it's the only sharp thing she has beside the sword. But it could very well just be coming out of her body... it would just make more sense being projected out of the headress.

But you do see the 3 spikes on the guy on the left right? And 2 of them are actually seen hitting him on the TT and not on that gif. On that gif you basically just see them already carved on his body.

 

[Finarfiniel]

Is Thanos gathering the infinity stones for Hela/Death though, or is he just gathering it for himself to gain absolute power? Maybe his motivation is different, and he just falls in love along the way.

But that takes away the most interesting aspect of Thanos, he's not just some run of the mill evil overlord that wants to conquer and destroy the universe just for power and for the hell of it. The fascinating thing about him has always been that he's doing it all for love, his own extremely warped and twisted version of love that is.

Thanos is extremely old by human standards. His younger brother Starfox is said to be over 1000 years old, and was implied at one point to have been the basis for the Greek god Eros.

Yeah, I don't believe it's ever been expressly stated how old comics Thanos is, but he's effectively immortal (being an Eternal) and I'm guessing he must be at least a couple of thousand years old. If MCU Thanos is the same age and Hela has been imprisoned for around a thousand years, it's more than possible that they could have met before her imprisonment.

Oh, and I see the spikes sticking out of that soldier's body in the gif too, that fits with what Cate said about Hela's headdress doubling as a weapon. She seems to be able to materialize the headdress out of nowhere too, because she's not wearing it in the 'Asgard is dead' shot (which appears to be directly before the scene in the gif) but then all of a sudden is wearing it when she's fighting. Unless Skurge is just off camera and hands it to her real quick or something...

 

[HammerDown]

 

[OutOfBoose]

Finally a sexy villain. Those hips, the crown...

 

[Finarfiniel]

Finally a sexy villain. Those hips, the crown...

 

[OutOfBoose]

Ouch. <3

 

[Wildcard]

Finally a sexy villain. Those hips, the crown...

Indeed. And an awesome advent of that? No stupid, out of place dancing to ruin the vibe.

 

[Bren]

Finally a sexy villain.

My wife thought RDJ was still quite sexy in Age of Ultron and Civil War

 

[OutOfBoose]

Indeed. And an awesome advent of that? No stupid, out of place dancing to ruin the vibe.

What out of place dancing?

 

[Bren]

Enchantress in SS I'm guessing?

 

[Dark Raven]

Is anyone really going to object to Cate Blanchett dancing sexily as Hela?