Apocalypse Certified Fresh or Fresh or Rotten? The ROTTEN TOMATOES Thread - Part 3

[Tacit Ronin]

Some people in here need to understand that movies aren't reviewed in a vacuum. They are a cultural and historical product. In terms of Superhero cinema, 2006 is lightyears behind 2016. Standards have changed significantly.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

I really don't care RT score anymore.
If Ironman 3 has 79%, and this movie 49%.

How dare people have opinions that don't conform to mine.

 

[ciscostudent561]

It's sort of like when a website is like "Can you believe THIS classic film is Rotten?" and I'm like, that film came out in 1985, it has 7 reviews and they were all written in 2003.


LOL.

hahahah

and the Iron man series has been on a downturn ever since he first flight back to the middle east in the first movie
so yeah IM3 boooo

 

[By your Command]

I just came out of the movie for the third time, as an X-Men fan (above any other superhero or superhero team) it's a great time to be alive, this year gave me two great X movies instead of just one, the day I came out of The Last Stand afraid, enraged and confused for the mishandling of everything seems very far away. I can agree with some of the things critics say of this movie, but I cannot in anyway (thankfully) comprehend the disdain or hate that's being showed for X-Men: Apocalypse, I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but I can say that the media narrative started by a few critics (the whole comparing everything with Civil War aggressively, which by the way is a great movie but hardly the life changing experience that people describe) and reporters (talking about the disappointing box office performance despite this being the first weekend of the year that has two tentpoles competing for first place) is very very suspicious. My answer to that craziness is to watch the movie as much as I can and take anyone that wants to see it with me, trust me, I'm enjoying the hell out of it.

 

[Smilodon]

It's a film that leaves things in a good place, that's something that everyone can agree on. Certainly far from the TLS which basically killed off a bunch of characters and closed narrative opportunities.

 

[Orba]

Some people in here need to understand that movies aren't reviewed in a vacuum. They are a cultural and historical product. In terms of Superhero cinema, 2006 is lightyears behind 2016. Standards have changed significantly.

Yup. Heck if you want to see how things have changed look at the 1963 film 'Tom Jones' starring Albert Finney, it was nominated for 10 Oscars and won 4 including Best Picture and Best Director. Its a great film, a real classic, but today it would never even be considered for an Oscar.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

and the Iron man series has been on a downturn ever since he first flight back to the middle east in the first movie

I disagree with your OPINION. And so does most people.

 

[Marvel]

As Chris Stuckmann rightfully points out in his SPOILER review, this is a very good film finishing what turned out to be a superb trilogy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iyQ6rMpzfM

Yes, it's certainly not perfect but what it delivered is done so remarkably well when you factor in the other X-Men films. As Stuckmann basically states, it's sad that some people weren't smart enough to follow along for three whole films.

Some critics that didn't like this film clearly needed everything spelled out for them yet have little patience when things aren't exploding constantly on screen. They lack an ability or willingness to suppress restlessness or annoyance when confronted with something that hearkens back to another film. That's the viewer's flaw or fault and not actually the film's problem.

So, that is clearly the way I look at this particular RT score.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Never gave a flying **** about Stuckmann as a reviewer. He's entitled to his opinion like everyone else is though.

 

[henzINNIT]

As Chris Stuckmann rightfully points out in his SPOILER review, this is a very good film finishing what turned out to be a superb trilogy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iyQ6rMpzfM

Yes, it's certainly not perfect but what it delivered is done so remarkably well when you factor in the other X-Men films. As Stuckmann basically states, it's sad that some people weren't smart enough to follow along for three whole films.

Some critics that didn't like this film clearly needed everything spelled out for them yet have little patience when things aren't exploding constantly on screen. They lack an ability or willingness to suppress restlessness or annoyance when confronted with something that hearkens back to another film. That's the viewer's flaw or fault and not actually the film's problem.

So, that is clearly the way I look at this particular RT score.

I love it when someone gets pretentious in an attempt to help validate their point of view.

This film isn't dividing opinion because it is too smart to resonate with people. I hate that argument.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

The "too intelligent" argument is a ****** and extremely rude argument. I don't care who uses it, I don't care if I've ever used it, it's a pathetic argument no matter who uses it.

 

[ApophènX]

Sometime you see real dumb argument thouh.

I think the reason is more emotional, when you connect with a movie on that level you instincly get the bigger picture and therfore much more makes sens. Some critics seems like they did not bother to understand the movie, to connect element sin their minds. But it's not intelligence the problems, it is: too much rational thinking deserve no purpose if tyou don't connect with the movie a bit. I think that's what leads to nitpicking and else.

In a way you can only truly understand a movie if you have love it ... And hate it. You can see sopething so differently after a short time.

I like to tell me how would a wild child enjoyed movie, wich one would he liked. Someone with no experience just embrace it maybe? It's all matter of perception in the end.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I understand loving a film with a mixed reaction and being obnoxious about it. I guess I'll just hope that Stuckmann and others get past their disappointment at half of the critics who didn't care for the film to varying degrees and stop using that "you're an idiot" excuse.

 

[Flint Marko]

Any time someone tells me that I didn't understand a movie, particularly a terrible one, I immediately stop listening to them. That's just some grade A arrogance, and I've seen a startling rise in this occurring on the hype within the past few months.

 

[ApophènX]

Yeah but that's just because it is all a matters of perception, when you see a movie you project yourself in it. Some people resonnate more with some stories or certain archetypes, and even litlle details can make a difference.

there is no terrible movie, only how good you can see it. What beauty you can find in things, we define the terms

 

[psylockolussus]

Iron Man 3 is better than Apocalypse.

Yes it is!

 

[Raiden]

The "too intelligent" argument is a ****** and extremely rude argument. I don't care who uses it, I don't care if I've ever used it, it's a pathetic argument no matter who uses it.

It's also an argument I saw some DC fanboys used to argue why BVS is way superior over other CBM despite its low RT. While I do watch some of Struckmann's reviews, he isn't the movie critic that I'd go to if I need a credible opinion.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Yes it is!

No it isn't.hate iron man 3.It's there with Spider-man 3 and X-Men the last stand as some of biggest disappointments.

Apocalypse is better.

 

[JP]

User score on RT up to 75%, from 74%. Pretty good considering something like BvS continued to decline after release.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Critics can apparently watch difficult movies all year long but need hand holding for an X-men movie. Lol.

 

[marvelrobbins]

User score on RT up to 75%, from 74%. Pretty good considering something like BvS continued to decline after release.

Audences do like film better than critics.that is clear with many tweets from people saying they loved film and disagree with critics.

 

[kevork89]

Users and audiences are liking this. Everyone who I've spoken to about it has enjoyed it so far and the crowd reactions to the movie have all been great. The 3 times I've gone anyway. And on IMDb at 71k votes it's 7.5 and it was 7.5 when it was like 20k. So I see most people are giving it a 7-8. I think everyone can agree it's a fairly fun average movie.

 

[metaphysician]

I really don't care RT score anymore.
If Ironman 3 has 79%, and this movie 49%.

So, you consider it incomprehensible that Iron Man 3 might just be a superior movie to X-Men Apocalypse? What, precisely, is so terrible about Iron Man 3?

 

[kasjan]

Iron Man 3 is better than Apocalypse.

Sorry, but can't stop laugh.

 

[theinfernoman]

Yeah but that's just because it is all a matters of perception, when you see a movie you project yourself in it. Some people resonnate more with some stories or certain archetypes, and even litlle details can make a difference.

there is no terrible movie, only how good you can see it. What beauty you can find in things, we define the terms

Very true.