Christopher Nolan's "Dunkirk" (July 21, 2017) - Part 3

You said Nolan was a favorite to win best director. Are you sure? I would be surprised if he gets a nom. Oscar people don't like Nolan.
 
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I hope UHD fixes black crush on TDKR and raises resolution at least to the level of trailers. I was really disappointed by the home release and it looked MUCH-MUCH better in IMAX.
 
antsman41 said:
Um... it's his best film.
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I can believe that. A friend showed it to me years ago and...we just didn't finish it. I think we just needed time to kill for half an hour, but I remember loving what I saw.

I just never got around to it. Heck, haven't seen Memento either (I have a list), but do need to get around to that as well.
 
NotNickFury said:
I can believe that. A friend showed it to me years ago and...we just didn't finish it. I think we just needed time to kill for half an hour, but I remember loving what I saw.

I just never got around to it. Heck, haven't seen Memento either (I have a list), but do need to get around to that as well.
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Prestige/Memento are his top 2 movies. Definitely see them sometime soon if you can.
 
The Prestige is my favorite Nolan film.

PS: When is Dunkirk coming to Blu Ray?
 
Zimmer’s score for Dunkirk got a Grammy nomination.

Best Soundtrack for Visual Media
"Arrival" — Jóhann Jóhannsson, composer
"Dunkirk" — Hans Zimmer, composer
"Game of Thrones: Season 7" — Ramin Djawadi, composer
"Hidden Figures" — Benjamin Wallfisch, Pharrell Williams & Hans Zimmer, composers
"La La Land" — Justin Hurwitz, composer

Some impressions on the 4K box set from a preview event- https://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/dunkirk/dark-knight-trilogy/inception/interstellar/prestige/first-look-the-christopher-nolan-collection-in-4k/40350

Sounds like Dunkirk will be one of the sharpest 4K Blu Rays so far-

Nolan's latest blockbuster was shot mostly on IMAX 15/70 film -- with the remaining, mostly-dialog scenes photographed in widescreen 70mm (65mm negative) -- and boy does this quality make difference. It was easily the best-looking demo of the evening. Sampling extended sequences from all three of the land, sea, and air timelines, I can confirm this 4K Blu-ray features alternating aspect ratios, with full frame IMAX 70/15 cutting to letterboxed 70mm footage.

Simply put, the Dunkirk IMAX clips are magnificent. Demo material all day and night. As close to IMAX 15/70 or IMAX Laser as you can get in the home. Probably the sharpest, clearest 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray ever released (or very close to Planet Earth II, which has the added benefit of being far more colorful). Like I said above, everyone was impressed. You can smush your face right up to the screen and see the smallest details in the sky and waves and uniforms and metal vessels. I'm sorry if this sounds like hyperbole, but, honestly, it's shockingly clear.

The widescreen 70mm footage is also quite clean and looks noticeably sharper than Nolan's 35mm productions (more on this in a minute), but lacks the finer details and overall screen brightness of the IMAX footage. It's not bad, by any means -- in fact, it gives me hope of how terrific Lawrence of Arabia or The Hateful Eight could look in 4K -- but this footage is just not as jaw-dropping when intercut with a higher resolution source material. The good news is that the difference is far less noticeable than IMAX v 35mm, and there are no signs of any weird digital enhancements or over-sharpening.

In other words, if you have a 4K display, you have a new demo disc. If you haven't upgraded, here's a very fun reason to do so.
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I did see the Tumbler Chase from Batman Begins, as well as Bane and Selina Kyle's (individual) introductions from The Dark Knight Rises. The Tumbler Chase is drenched in deeper shadows than I recall seeing on both my Blu-ray and various theatrical formats circa 2005, but you can still see things like the metallic black paint and the church roof tiles as the Tumbler crunches across them. Bane's plane-heist is one of the most thrilling action sequences ever put to film and, much like Dunkirk, the full frame IMAX-filmed footage drips with detail and texture. It looks terrific. The Selena Kyle scene takes place in Bruce Wayne's shadowy mansion and was probably the least eye-popping footage of the evening. Skin tones and black levels are good, but there is a visible drop in sharpness compared to the IMAX footage (noticeably more so than Dunkirk's widescreen 70mm footage). This is understandable, expected even, and will likely be less visible to those who aren't an arm's length away from a screen. Still, the good news here is that there doesn't appear to be any over-sharpening; it's just hard to compete with IMAX 15/70.
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Much like Gravity, I don't think I'll ever watch this on home video.

To be honest, the strength of the movie is as a theatrical experience. A harrowing ride, but its not really much of a movie all things considered.
 
There will certainly be a lot lost with its transition to home video. This is very much a cinematic experience, where its most compelling features are its subtle use of sounds and images. Without that IMAX screen and sound system, the film's immersive quality won't be nearly up to par with its theatrical release.

Still going to buy it though.
 
I can't wait to watch it at home on my 4K TV with HDR.
 
redhawk23 said:
Much like Gravity, I don't think I'll ever watch this on home video.

To be honest, the strength of the movie is as a theatrical experience. A harrowing ride, but its not really much of a movie all things considered.
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What would you say describes a movie?
 
It's a good movie. Good movies work on home video no matter what. In this case if you have a decent size television and a good enough sound system, it will be great.
 
Brother Jack said:
What would you say describes a movie?
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A movie less dependent on on just sheer immersion could have placed more emphasis on character and story which this film kept to an absolute minimum. Its the prestige film equivalent of a Universal Studios ride.

Nolan just went in an extreme direction avoiding the weakest aspects of his other work. "Oh you thought most of the crew in Interstellar weren't well established? Well I'm just going to give you a movie where hardly anyone is even named."

Dunkirk is pretty incredible in a theater. It won't hold much on even a high end home system.
 
So you don't think 2001 is a movie? After all, it has very little characterization.
 
Tacit Ronin said:
So you don't think 2001 is a movie? After all, it has very little characterization.
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Touche. There's a reason why seeing 2001 on 70mm is a bucket list item of mine to the extent that I even tried to have my schedule changed so I could drive to Chicago to catch such a screening (I failed unfortunately.)

Even that film is not so dependent on pure sensation the way Dunkirk is.
 
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Not the same kind. But it's a motion picture of pure experience. If you are not feeling, seeing, and hearing 2001, you might as well turn it off. A lot of young people who watch 2001, unsure of what they've seen, just describe it as 'an experience".
 
Which may well be fair. The home presentation of 2001 may not be very worthwhile compared to the theatrical experience.

That's exactly what I'm saying about Dunkirk. It's strengths are almost wholly dependent upon the setting and its director purposefully made it that way.

Beyond that though, even theatrically, there's much I find about Dunkirk to be very slight.
 
https://www.screendaily.com/news/ch...s-anything-but-a-brexit-movie/5124612.article

But, he cautioned: “Interpreting the events of 1940 through a modern lens is frankly disrespectful to the people who lived through the real-life events. This is something that happened in 1940, not something that’s happening in 2017. Brexit happened while we were shooting and was as much a surprise to us as to everybody else.”

“As a filmmaker, you can’t control the world that your film goes out into,” he continued. ”What you can do is be true to the real-life events and what they meant to the people who were involved in them. Dunkirk is a story about community. It’s a story about people coming together in the face of evil. And I think different political groups taking that to mean different things means they are necessarily ignoring certain elements of the film.”
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Suck it, Nigel Farage.
 
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