Christopher Nolan's Inception

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I swear each day I come on here
theres a new theory that convinces me that he was dreaming or that he was in reality. Today it looks like he's in reality. Tomorrow someones gonna find another theory thats more insane and then Im gonna be convinced hes dreaming again.
 
Thanks...my explanation was a brief and quick...Now, I just saw on IMDb a few minutes ago this guy wrote it beautifully..word for word what I was thinking and probably what you were too...It will make even more sense

It is NOT a dream: The WEDDING RING gives it away.

I have now seen this movie three times. The first time I saw it I thought it was not a dream and he was home. When I saw discussions to the contrary, I saw it again looking for any clues to tell whether he is dreaming the whole time, and questioned the ending thoroughly. It was not until I saw a post about someone saying he is only wearing a wedding ring when he dreams. Multiple people shot it down saying that they saw him wearing it in reality or that he was not wearing it in this dream or that one. My third viewing had me looking for the ring in almost every shot, seeing if his totem ever falls in a dream (Something someone said happened), looking at his children's faces to see if they are the same, etc.

My analysis as follows:

The Wedding Ring:

We start the movie with Cobb in limbo with Saito, he is wearing a ring. Step back to the beginning, he is trying to convince Saito to let him into his mind to help protect it, this takes place in a dream two layers down. He is wearing a wedding ring. Things go south and we wake up in the apartment, where we think an angry mob is really coming down the street. They threaten Saito's life with him thinking it is reality, only for him to discover otherwise. In this entire scene Cobb is wearing a wedding ring. Wake up on the train, NO WEDDING RING. In the hotel suite on the phone with his kids, NO WEDDING RING. On the roof talking to Saito, NO WEDDING RING. France, the architecture university, NO WEDDING RING. The coffee shop in Ariadne's first shared dream, Cobb is wearing his wedding ring, she freaks out. They wake up in the workshop, NO WEDDING RING. They go back under and Ariadne explores the physics of the dreamworld, again Cobb is wearing a wedding ring.

Cobb goes to see Eames, the entire time not wearing a ring. He meets the new chemist, still no ring. The chemist gives him a quick taste of his latest potion, in that scene we get a quick glimpse of his hand with a WEDDING RING. Wakes up, no ring. See the pattern?

So finally, the inception. We are on the plane, we clearly see is not wearing a ring. Level 1, WEDDING RING, Level 2, WEDDING RING, Level 3 WEDDING RING, Limbo he is wearing his WEDDING RING.

After he meets Saito as an old man, the conversation continues past what we saw in the beginning, yet even here he is wearing a WEDDING RING still. Then, when Saito reaches for the gun, we are on an airplane. He is not wearing a wedding ring here.

HERE IS THE KEY. As he is walking through the terminal, no ring, as he is greeted by father in law, no ring, when he gets home and spins his totem, no ring.

In his dreams he is married to Mul still, as she can still exist there. In reality, he knows she is dead and does not wear a wedding ring as he is no longer married. A simple yet easily unnoticed way to test which parts are reality.

Not done there, I investigated another thing, Cobb's totem:

I have seen many posts of people saying his totem falls when he is in others' dreams. This is simply not true. People say it wobbles and falls over in the beginning. I watched and listened closely, Saito spins the top and we hear it spinning as the scene cuts to the young Saito. Then, in the end when we see him old again, he looks down and it is still spinning, he knows he is not in reality and goes for the gun.

When Cobb uses inception on Mul, it continues and never stops. In the hotel after the failed Saito mission, it falls. A funny thing to note is that every scene in which the top spins endlessly he is wearing a WEDDING RING. In the scenes in which it topples, he is not.

Now, the awakening scene. Looks an awful lot like a dream right? Not really. He wakes up on the plane surprised, but everyone is smiling. They woke up from the sedatives, but Cobb and Saito were down in limbo. When they got back, everyone is happy to see he made it, Saito looks just as stunned only backing up the fact that he really snapped back to reality. They are all getting bags, going through customs, etc. Everyone looks at each other with a grin because they know inception worked and that Cobb is finally home. Not very dream-like except that it seems like a dream come true. Had the scene after he and Saito with the gun been him in his home, him on his way to his home, etc, I would think it is a dream. No, he awakens in EXACTLY the place he went to sleep to start inception. You never really know how you get to where you are in a dream do you? Then how does he know he is on a plane and just successfully completed inception on Robert Fischer, the man in front of him?

Finally, the home scene. Looks like a dream? In this case, yes it does. we see the children exactly where they were, doing the same thing, wearing the same clothes. They appear the same age. On my second viewing this was red flag that it was a dream. But on my third viewing I noticed slight differences, such as the kids looking slightly older. The cast list has two sets of kids listed, ones slightly older than the others. They are not voice casts but actual actors in the film. I especially noticed a difference as the camera pans towards the totem, I chose to focus on the back door with the kids. The girl is seen throwing herself on her father, in this scene she looks clearly older than the memory he has of her.

And of course, the totem itself. I watched each spin my third time through. It spun flawlessly for a while, began to wobble slightly, then started a hard wobble then fall. In the final scene it appears to be spinning smoothly for a long time, he probably gave it a lot of power. It starts to slightly wobble, and the screen goes black after it begins a HARD WOBBLE as if it is about to topple, not correct itself.

Conclusion: The movie isn't a dream, Cobb isn't caught in some "limbo that looks a lot like reality." Cobb spends the entire movie trying to get to his kids in reality, why would he settle for shades in a limbo? What proof is there that he is dreaming the whole time? If he is dreaming at the end, where is he dreaming? Limbo? So he goes from talking to Saito to just waking up on a plane, all as a part of a dream in limbo? Really? Think about it.

Nolan would never take the "eeet was aaaaalll a dreeeeaaaammmmm" cliche way out. But the fact that he cut the film before the top falls over does have a meaning. He is planting a seed of doubt in your mind. He uses inception on the audience to have them question the ending. The concept of the movie thus becomes reality to the viewer, a heavy thing to think about and something that hasn't been done before.

But all the evidence points to reality.

Perfect..Just a perfect wrapup!

But why would the kids be playing in the yard of a house no one lives at? Cobb has been on the run and Mal is dead, that house is unoccupied. Wouldn't the kids have been staying with someone else like their grandmother?
 
But why would the kids be playing in the yard of a house no one lives at? Cobb has been on the run and Mal is dead, that house is unoccupied. Wouldn't the kids have been staying with someone else like their grandmother?
It's very possible Cobb or someone else had informed his dad to expect their arrival, and have the kids brought over to the old house.
 
I just got back from seeing Inception, finally opened here in Australia review is as follows. Spoiler free.

I seriously don't remember the last time of was left speechless after seeing a film at the cinema. Even The Dark Knight didn't leave me in such a state of shock, what I witness this evening is one of the most bizarre, complicated, layered and beautiful movies I can remember seeing. I honestly don't know how to describe this film, it's pieces of everything rolled into one 2 and a half hour bundle that in lesser hands would have completely fallen apart, yet with Chris Nolan it couldn't be in safer hands.

Where do I begin? Honestly I have no idea, for starters I feel as if I've been treated as an adult for the first time in a long time for a blockbuster movie, this film doesn't hold your hand, yet at the same time it wasn't nearly as complicated as some reviewers would have you believe, I will admit though at times I struggled to keep up with the onslaught of story and exposition going on, but when you link all the pieces together it's a surprisingly smooth ride. My only real complaint about the story is the first hour probably spends a bit too much time explaining things to the audience via Ariadne, but it's a minor hick up really, acts two and three go straight for the jugular and never let go, I don't recall the last time I got so tense watching a film, teeth and fists were firmly clenched during the climax of the film, the mixture of action and emotion was beautifully done.

What of the cast? No-one puts a foot out of place here, there are no bad performances from anyone here, yet I also don't think anyone really stands out, DiCaprio is solid as Cobb, not too dissimilar to his role in Shutter Island, but nothing ultimately spectacular that screams this is the performance he'll be remembered for. JGL also strong, Ken Wantanabe is the coolest SOB going around at the moment as far as I'm concerned, he's great, Cillian Murphy good as well. Ellen Page is probably the weak link of the cast, it's not that she's bad, she more than holds her own with everyone else, it's just the role really didn't require anything special and thus any capable actress I believe could have played her character. If there are standout's it's Tom Hardy and Marion Cotillard for sure, Hardy's character is razor sharp and could easily have slipped into being pure comic relief but does a fine balancing act that works perfectly and Marion is once again the emotional core of a movie, this seems to be her specialty, it says a lot about an actor that they can bring so much to a relatively small role.

Visually, it's stunning, if there's CG in this film you'd hardly notice it, I wish more movies would employ practical effects they way they have done in this film. I don't care what CGI fanboy says, practical will always look better. As for the music, it blends so perfectly with the film, I almost feel as if the film itself was writing the music as it was going along, not once did I feel like I was hearing score, I don't know how else to describe it.

Honestly, I don't know how to sum up the movie other than it requires more than one viewing, and I can't say that about a lot of films. I said The Dark Knight was Chris Nolan's best film, in retrospect the Batman fan in me probably got in the way with that assessment, Memento definitely ranks higher. What of Inception? I will need to view it again a few more times but as of now it ranks above TDK. I was blown away by The Dark Knight, but Inception blew me away more, with TDK I knew I was getting a Batman movie, with Inception I had no idea what I was getting and yet I was left gobsmacked to a greater extent, and that to me makes it the better film. One thing I will say, I was convinced there was no way a third Nolan Batman film could top TDK, well I retract that statement because after seeing Inception not only do I think Batman 3 can equal the TDK, I think it can beat it, and at this point in time who would bet against Chris Nolan doing it?

Inception gets an extremely solid 9 from me.
 
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No. The dreamer is always the one that has to stay awake.
 
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Yusef isn't the dreamer of van chase, Fisher jr is...

Fischer's subconscious is what's populating the dream, but it's not his construct.

Remember - spoiler tags until the weekend's over.
 
It's very possible Cobb or someone else had informed his dad to expect their arrival, and have the kids brought over to the old house.

Since they mentioned a grandma, maybe she chose to not be there when Cobb returned if this was reality?
 
Isn't the Snow Fortress
Fischer's dream but he just thinks it's Eames's?

EDIT: Screwed up putting spoiler tags on.
 
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Isn't the Snow Fortress Fischer's dream but he just thinks it's Eames's?

Not quite

It is Eames' dream, with Fischer's subconscious populating it. When Dom pulls the Mr. Charles, he tells Fischer that they're going into Browning's mind to uncover the "truth" about Fischer's father.
 
For those of you who saw the film in IMAX, did it look better than the average IMAX transfer? Because certain scenes were shot in 65mm.
 
What did you all learn from this film? Did it have any mind-blowing underlying commentary or point to make?

Or was it just an exploration of dreams vs reality?

In terms of telling us that dreams aren't real, that we can't escape from reality and that we have to let go of the past, those aren't groundbreaking ideas. We all know those things.

So what was Nolan's intention with the film? What amazing message does he have for us? Or is the amazement in the exploration of the ideas of the dreamworld?
 
Estimates for Wednesday's gross is at $8,855,000.

I'm not a BO expert but for a movie that wasn't a full on mindless action film and being on a weekday, I think it's holding up pretty well.
 
Around 100 mill total now...?

108 :woot:

It hasn't really opened up in most foreign markets either. I know a lot of people only give a **** about domestic but I don't have a stake in the film's BO so I don't give a damn about how much the actual studio makes. For me it's all about the grand total WW, to show just how well liked the film that I maybe paying attention to does.
 
what the hell is going on with all these new "usernames"?

It's a temporary thing for the Survivor game over in Community chat. Some of the players will PM a lot of people they know, to change their username for a few days, whoever gets the most people wins that round I think.
 
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