Christopher Nolan's Inception

[Anita18]

Kim Kardashian is such a dingbat. She has 4 million followers on Twitter and basically spoiled the ending for them. Pathetic. lol

I was actually pretty surprised that so many celebrities liked it so much. You'd think MORE of them would be dingbats.

 

[Crook]

I'm surprised that's the #1 question I've heard coming out of this movie. The ending was so deliberate as to be ambiguous or plant the seeds of skepticism. People are acting like we saw extra footage or have greater insight.

 

[redfirebird2008]

I'm surprised that's the #1 question I've heard coming out of this movie. The ending was so deliberate as to be ambiguous or plant the seeds of skepticism. People are acting like we saw extra footage or have greater insight.

Kinda shows you how dumbed down the population at large is. For one thing, the fact that 4 million people are following Kardashian on Twitter is incredibly sad.

 

[bullets]

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There was an audible groan from the audience once the screen cut to black. But it wasn't out of anger so much as it was out of the playfulness of it. It couldn't have ruined anyone's thoughts of the film, at least I hope not.

Definitely ! I got some laughs , didn't think it hurts the film at all for most. Also I think people made up their minds by that point.

 

[Figs]

JGL posted this on his Twitter page...

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http://twitpic.com/26k9ub

Where is his Twitter name?? Second time someone posted this but the main person on that link is a girl.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Where is his Twitter name?? Second time someone posted this but the main person on that link is a girl.

http://***********/hitrecordjoe

HitRecord is his music/movie production website. It's pretty neat. It's actually an open community of people who upload their own stuff on there and collaborate.

http://hitrecord.org/reel

 

[bullets]

http://***********/hitrecordjoe

HitRecord is his music/movie production website. It's pretty neat. It's actually an open community of people who upload their own stuff on there and collaborate.

http://hitrecord.org/reel

Phil Defraco ,youtube , gave a big shout out to the website the other day , apparently its been around as long as youtube and has a similar concept .

 

[Sawyer]

Someone seriously gave this a 1?

 

[Christopher Nolan]

if the academy nominates inception in some categories, warner bros. should release the movie again in january. just like they did it with the dark knight. just to push the movie...

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[General Vulcun]

For anyone who's interested, Richard Roeper has put up another video about Inception on his website in which he discusses a few of the theories people have about the film.

Overall, and this may be because I've spent so much time reading through this thread post-release and have seen just how indepth some of the analyses are, I don't think the video was all that interesting at all. He sort of quickly goes through a few theories, gives his general impression of them, and moves on. It was fun, though, seeing how enthusiastic Roeper is about this film. You can tell he really does love it. And he says something that we can all agree on: the fact we are engaging in endless discussion, coming up with these theories, etc., is a testament to just how well a job Nolan has done in crafting this film.

For those who want to check the 5 minute video out, enjoy: http://www.richardroeper.com/

 

[Dark Knight]

Kinda shows you how dumbed down the population at large is. For one thing, the fact that 4 million people are following Kardashian on Twitter is incredibly sad.

Yep....sad AND pathetic!

 

[Dark Knight]

Read this:

http://www.theawl.com/2010/07/the-key-to-inception-its-a-movie-about-making-movies

As far as the dream/reality aspect, that was less interesting to me within the plot itself than Cobb being able to overcome his past.

Agreed!

DiCaprio did a heckuva job in this film!

 

[Bunker]

Kinda shows you how dumbed down the population at large is. For one thing, the fact that 4 million people are following Kardashian on Twitter is incredibly sad.

She posts an epic cleavage pic once every once in a while. Reason enough, imo.

 

[Christopher Nolan]

he was slightly better in shutter island...

 

[Christopher Nolan]

She posts an epic cleavage pic once every once in a while. Reason enough, imo.

come on, we shouldnt judge people's intelligence on twitter or other social networks.

 

[Bunker]

Obligatory cast rating:

1. Murphy
2. Cotillard
3. DiCaprio
4. Hardy
5. Gordon-Levitt
6. Watanabe
7. Page
8. Rao

 

[Bunker]

come on, we shouldnt judge people's intelligence on twitter or other social networks.

I wasn't judging her intelligence, only her boobage.

 

[Christopher Nolan]

Obligatory cast rating:

1. Murphy
2. Cotillard
3. DiCaprio
4. Hardy
5. Gordon-Levitt
6. Watanabe
7. Page
8. Rao

dicaprio acted pretty good. nothing unusual. his performance didnt really blow me away, because of shutter island. in both films he

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struggled with problems in his past (wife, children)

and people who have seen shutter island may feel the same. if you didnt watch shutter island it's better...

 

[redfirebird2008]

Obligatory cast rating:

1. Murphy
2. Cotillard
3. DiCaprio
4. Hardy
5. Gordon-Levitt
6. Watanabe
7. Page
8. Rao

"Let's shake 'em up."

1. DiCaprio
2. Cotillard
3. Murphy
4. Page
5. Hardy
6. Gordon-Levitt
7. Watanabe
8. Rao

 

[Bunker]

dicaprio acted pretty good. nothing unusual. his performance didnt really blow me away, because of shutter island. in both films he

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struggled with problems in his past (wife, children)

and people who have seen shutter island may feel the same. if you didnt watch shutter island it's better...

I read in a review that said Leo was pretty much on auto-pilot the entire time. Can't say I disagree. Fortunately an auto-pilot performance from him is better than almost any other actor's best performance.

"Let's shake 'em up."

1. DiCaprio
2. Cotillard
3. Murphy
4. Page
5. Hardy
6. Gordon-Levitt
7. Watanabe
8. Rao

Poor Rao.

 

[Poeman]

Here is how I would rank the acting

1. DiCaprio
2. Murphy
3. Cotillard
4. Hardy
5. Gordon-Levitt
6. Page
7. Watanabe
8. Rao

 

[Figs]

I read in a review that said Leo was pretty much on auto-pilot the entire time. Can't say I disagree. Fortunately an auto-pilot performance from him is better than almost any other actor's best performance.

I can kind of see why some would say that but as you said, him on auto-pilot is a lot better than a good number of other actors out there.

Poor Rao.

I don't think it's his fault necessarily. He wasn't given all that much to work with. So far he's still "that guy" to a lot of people i'm sure. Maybe he'll get some bigger roles in the future to prove himself more.


Just saw a TV spot for Salt...I can't wait to see who claims the #1 spot this weekend.

 

[Christopher Nolan]

I read in a review that said Leo was pretty much on auto-pilot the entire time. Can't say I disagree. Fortunately an auto-pilot performance from him is better than almost any other actor's best performance.

jep, auto-pilot is still okay.
as i said, if you didnt watch shutter island, you will enjoy his performance.

Poor Rao.

well..his role wasnt that big. he couldnt really impress, the same goes for watanabe...

i was most impressed by marion, murphy and page.

 

[Figs]

jep, auto-pilot is still okay.
as i said, if you didnt watch shutter island, you will enjoy his performance.




well..his role wasnt that big. he couldnt really impress, the same goes for watanabe...

i was most impressed by marion, murphy and page.

You were impressed with Page? I thought she was just ok.

 

[musicmania67]

Sorry everyone for bringing this up again but I really like this analysis. Its intriguing, and well thought out because it clearly spells out the events of the movie, but I'm not sure the spin is the way its supposed to be. how can this be since the Hans Zimmer triumphant score at the end as Batman rides away into the night clearly implies that Batman is a hero, in his own way to Gotham. Whereas everything you've just written says the exact opposite, that he is not a hero.

Remember, Nolan was not planning on making a 3rd movie. Dark Knight was supposed to conclude BB, and from what I saw, Batman was suppsoed to be seen as a heroic figure, doing what he knew was right even though Gotham hated him for it.

If Batman was not supposed to be a hero in TDK, then what is the point of Gordon's speech at the end or the musical score?

I feel that you both are right. I too was disturbed by the lack of Bruce's parents haunting him in The Dark Knight. I did feel that Rachel was sort of a link to that area. However, I think Nolan was more interested in exploring Rachel's key assertion to Bruce:

"That Bruce needs Batman more than Gotham needs Batman."

This to me is the core of that movie. Think about it.

The main dramatic question character-wise for Bruce Wayne is: "Does Batman know his limits?" The theme is explicitly stated when Alfred warns Bruce to "know your limits" and Bruce replies with "Batman has no limits."

The Joker's rise to power via the mob hiring him has EVERYTHING to do with Batman not knowing his limits. He tells the mob: "Batman has no jurisdiction." At the First Act Break, Batman proves The Joker right by breaking international law and traveling halfway around the world to apprehend the mob fiancieer. This kicks into action the whole thrust of the main movie:

How much chaos and death can The Joker cause before Batman unmasks himself? Remember, this is the threat made by The Joker. And he proves to be a man of his word...

He kills judges, commissioners, DAs, random city workers, mobsters, police officers, blows up Gotham PD, and blows up a hospital all to solidify his power over the mob and to push Batman to his breaking point. Time and time again, The JOker's right: Batman refuses to take off his mask and instead lets more and more people die because, as Bruce says, "Batman has no limits."

Nolan is asking the question is this right? How is this sane? Remember, Bruce started to be Batman as a temporary job to inspire hope in Gotham. Nolan's films seem to be leading to an exploration on how someone becomes trapped by their altruism when that altruism is founded in grief and anger and vengeance. No rational man would decide to wage a life-long war on crime. What's tragic is to watch a man become trapped by his own obsession as he becomes blinded by his own addiction...

Rachel is right. Bruce needs Batman, and is so addicted that he allows nearly 30 plus people to die both directly and indirectly because of his stance. But that's not the most important death, and the most important death is key to the tragedy that Nolan is outlining here.

Many people ask: why was that scene in the warehouse at the end necessary? Well let's look at it:

Batman arrives and is surrounded by his two closest allies: Gordon and Dent. A very significant moment occurs when Dent cries out: Why was it only me who lost everything?"

There is a long, significant pause by Batman before he says "It wasn't."

Isn't that a rather weak answer? Why, at this moment, did Bruce not unmask himself and shock Dent back from the brink with the revelation of who he was and what he's lost? But Bruce doesn't. No. Because he is so addicted to being Batman, so lost in the persona, that even while in front of two people he should be able to trust, he refuses to and instead allows Dent to go over the edge (literally).

But notice that Bruce does realize this. As he stands over Harvey's dead body, note that when Dent rambles about the Joker winning, Batman very pregnantly looks up toward the warehouse level where he and Dent and Gordon faced-off, and then back at Dent's body, realizing that he didn't even think to take off his mask and show Dent that he wasn't the only one.

It's a significant, subtle moment when he looks back up, but it's the only explanation for why Batman does it. He finally understands what he's become, that Rachel was right, and that all those men died. Again, through the action of falling (as he does as a child into the bat cave), Bruce has become something else...

After he looks up, he delivers his lines: "I killed those people."

And he did, in a way. The blood is on his hands. So now the vigilante, he takes off, forever trapped by his own obsession to avenge crime since he helped ruin the only hope he had at ever escaping his quest.

It's ultimate a massive tragedy about one man's obsession and best intentions.