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Christopher Nolan's Inception

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In watchmen, the casting for Ozymandias was definitely an issue...

I watched the movie with a friend of mine who has never been a comic reader, and had never even of heard of the Watchmen comic, and he turned to me after the second Ozy scene and said (he's the bad guy...he's tricking the blue guy into working with him). Once you figure that out, the ending scenes are majorly affected in a negative way.

the thread is getting side tracked but its late so who cares :oldrazz:

my problem with snyders take is when I read watchmen, it always seemed to me that the humans and superheroes alike were really uncomfortable with Dr. M being the only person with true powers but snyder had them (the humans) on wires jumping feet in the air, breaking bones, slo mo, the HUMANS looked like they were superpowered so the tention between the humans and DR. M was lessened.

also snyder in every shape or form imginable fails to get across the impending threat of nucular war. add to that the disgrace music, the shocking pacing and clunkly dialogue and the violence for violence sake (axe to head) epic, EPIC FAIL.
 
I hope people are still not pondering alot about the ending...It is reality folks!

Btw, I've been listening to 528491 non-stop...awesome track
I'm in love with that track. It is so intense.

snyder should be strung up for the music in watchmen. I don't think I have ever in the history of watching movies been taken out of a movie as many times as I was as watching watchmen. when 'hallelujah' broke out in the sex scene I wanted to get up and leave the cinema.
The music was definitely a let down especially the hallelujah scene. The music alone turn that entire scene into one big joke when it shouldn't be. Also it was just so bland and virtually non-existant. Its like some started playing music from my ipod and put like 5 minutes of score in the whole film.
 
I mean performances. Him treating them like poop might play a part in it, but wasn't Kubrick a d-bag too? He got a lot of great performances out of his actors.

well, whatever mojo cameron had for coaxing great performances out of his actors he's lost it now.
 
Well Scorsese, and Spielberg definitely ticks all of those boxes.

*cough* crystal skull *cough*
*cough* war of the worlds *cough*

spielberg DID tick all those boxes.


also does scorsese have an eye for action? serious question.
 
Again for the visuals I think some really are confusing flash with actual visual of the camera, the set up the lighting, and even yes the location. Nolan goes into the dark corners and low pits of the earth but Wally and him combined make an amazing visual team. There is a reason he's been nominated for it a few times, including for TDK.

Nolan with Wally is very visual, and makes some of the most beautiful work I've ever seen. But with flashy CGI no he really does not do that, but that is a point I'm glad for.

As for the check mark list we got going, I will not answer that because I think some directors achieve it at times and sometimes not.
 
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Again for the visuals I think some really are confusing flash with actual visual of the camera, the set up the lighting, and even yes the location. Nolan goes into the dark corners and low pits of the earth but Wally and him combined make an amazing visual team. There is a reason he's been nominated for it a few times, and won for TDK.


lolwut? TDK didn't win Best Cinematography.
 
Sorry lol I was just going to edit that. But nominated none the less which shows achievement regardless. Should have won though lol.

Wasn't Pfister's work on TDK voted the 6th or 7th best shot film of the new century in some cinematography magazine?
 
*cough* crystal skull *cough*
*cough* war of the worlds *cough*

spielberg DID tick all those boxes.


also does scorsese have an eye for action? serious question.

Well in your post you add to it saying knowing how to show, frame, and light scenes. Did you only mean action? If you did its a little unfair considering that Scorsese doesn't really direct films that are even close to being considered action. The only film that could be considered close to action that he directed was The Departed.

And I agree about Spielberg. I meant to add that Spielberg ticked all those boxes. And Shutter Island puts my faith in Scorsese into doubt. It didn't hold up too well after viewing it a second time.
 
So I just got my copy of The Prestige for $1.97 on amazon. :D

Going to be checking that out in a bit
 
Wasn't Pfister's work on TDK voted the 6th or 7th best shot film of the new century in some cinematography magazine?

I remember something like that but don't quote me at all. I would ask Anita about that, she's got to meet the man twice!
 
Wasn't Pfister's work on TDK voted the 6th or 7th best shot film of the new century in some cinematography magazine?

Yep. Problem is that the cinematographers don't have the final say in the voting. They nominate the films, but then the voting is opened to other members of the Academy. So actors get to vote (and they have the largest voting bloc by far), which explains why they selected Avatar last year when that film isn't really an example of great cinematography. Cinematography is the art of capturing light with a camera. Most of Avatar's visuals were created on computers. The White Ribbon probably should have won.
 
Cinematography is the art of capturing light with a camera. Most of Avatar's visuals were created on computers.
With the advent of the digital age, I think that's a long outdated definition. Even the most naturally captured images on film, are aided with post-production.
 
a great shot is a great shot and how that shot is acheived is irrelavent. the cinematography in avatar was mind blowing, I couldn't care less how those shots ere realised.
 
Avatar deserved the win. So much work was done in post-production and even during production that what managed to do shouldn't be knocked off because it was CGI, especially considering that many films today also do most of their cinematography in post-production. Its actually not a good thing to do but most do it.
 
Well in your post you add to it saying knowing how to show, frame, and light scenes. Did you only mean action? If you did its a little unfair considering that Scorsese doesn't really direct films that are even close to being considered action. The only film that could be considered close to action that he directed was The Departed.

And I agree about Spielberg. I meant to add that Spielberg ticked all those boxes. And Shutter Island puts my faith in Scorsese into doubt. It didn't hold up too well after viewing it a second time.

spielberg gets every aspect of film but recently his movies have bordered on a disgrace. how the mighty have fallen. also jackson's last movie 'lovely bones' was utter rubbish. both of those directors have to go to the 'mojo well' because they have most definately lost theirs.
 
Avatar deserved the win. So much work was done in post-production and even during production that what managed to do shouldn't be knocked off because it was CGI, especially considering that many films today also do most of their cinematography in post-production. Its actually not a good thing to do but most do it.

ha ha great signature :up:
brilliant time to be a marvel fan. :word:
 
spielberg gets every aspect of film but recently his movies have bordered on a disgrace. how the mighty have fallen. also jackson's last movie 'lovely bones' was utter rubbish. both of those directors have to go to the 'mojo well' because they have most definately lost theirs.

I have a good feeling Spielberg will make a big come back next year with "War Horse" and "The Adventures of Tin Tin".
 
spielberg gets every aspect of film but recently his movies have bordered on a disgrace. how the mighty have fallen. also jackson's last movie 'lovely bones' was utter rubbish. both of those directors have to go to the 'mojo well' because they have most definately lost theirs.

Thats why I didn't include Jackson with them. The only Jackson films I liked were the Lord of the Rings films. I wasn't that big on King Kong.

ha ha great signature :up:
brilliant time to be a marvel fan. :word:

Yeah thanks. I loved the quote so I had to do it. I'm about to add another quote by Joss Whedon.

I love both DC and Marvel but I'm a bit disappointed they didn't have a trailer for Green Lantern and Geoff Johns decided to stay silent about other DC properties despite saying yesterday he had big surprise in store. Plus I heard the Harry Potter Panel sucked too.
 
I don't think that Avatar had the best cinematography. My pick for that would have been Anti-Christ, which had awe-inspiring cinematography without the help of cartoons.
 
Yep. Problem is that the cinematographers don't have the final say in the voting. They nominate the films, but then the voting is opened to other members of the Academy. So actors get to vote (and they have the largest voting bloc by far), which explains why they selected Avatar last year when that film isn't really an example of great cinematography. Cinematography is the art of capturing light with a camera. Most of Avatar's visuals were created on computers. The White Ribbon probably should have won.


I've always hating the Academy voting process. The only category that should be voted as a whole should be Best Picture.
 
I've always hating the Academy voting process. The only category that should be voted as a whole should be Best Picture.

I always believed the Academy should issue tests that determine if someone is knowledgable in a particular area of film, and if they are then they get to vote, otherwise people will just vote for their favorite film in the technical categories and that's not very fair.

As well, I really think they need to define what a supporting role and a leading role is, because I get tired of hearing about actors putting the weaker of their 2 leading roles into the supporting category just so that they have better odds (ex. Kate Winslet with Revolutionary Road and The Reader).
 
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