Superman Returns clips without color filters.

[matthooper]

To be honest, preferred the lighting in the movie, not just being a 'blind lover' here but i honestly liked it darker, Superman looks so bright in some of those shots he appears fake, and no, i'm not talking about the CG doubles.

What a shocker.

The colors in those clips are the real thing. Those clips show the actual suit color and the actual CGI colors. Singer digitally altered the true colors with a filter...and a drastic filter at that. How can anyone look at the colors in the theatrical version in the same way ever again. I can hardly believe anyone can delude themselves enough to think that the suit in the film looks better than those clips.

Before the movie came out, I saw the screen used suit at Toys R Us in NY. (They had a WB sponsored SR prop and costume display). I couldn't believe it when I saw the film. I thought that Toys R Us was duped. Now I know it was the real suit, but for an unknown reason Singer wanted the Superman III evil suit.

Seeing the unaltered clips, you can now see how washed the out theatrical suit looked.

 

[matthooper]

Also, if Singer spent hundreds of thousands of the WB's money and dozens of hours deciding on the colors of the suit, why change it in post?

He chose those colors, did swatch tests, test footage, wardrobe tests, and then changes it. He probably spent months in total tweaking the suit before shooting. If he wanted the terrible colors we got, why not make the suit that color in the first place? It's not logical.

This is why Sony chose to show the un-altered version. They know he screwed up and they want to show the actual work they did and not the bastardized version that Singer changed it to.

 

[CGHulk]

Oh my God a red cape!!!

 

[dark_b]

watch this guys. yes i think that singer did something wrong when he made teh footage darker.
but changing the colors is normal when making that kind of movies.
http://img-nex.kongisking.net/kong/movies/PPD-12WeeksToGo_qt6_high.mov

they have now the tools and they want to stylize the movie.

again this is normal. and singer is not a bad guy. he made the movei he wanted.

but no worryguys. the movie will be brighter and lighter in the sequel in 2009. fact

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

What a shocker.

The colors in those clips are the real thing. Those clips show the actual suit color and the actual CGI colors. Singer digitally altered the true colors with a filter...and a drastic filter at that. How can anyone look at the colors in the theatrical version in the same way ever again. I can hardly believe anyone can delude themselves enough to think that the suit in the film looks better than those clips.

Before the movie came out, I saw the screen used suit at Toys R Us in NY. (They had a WB sponsored SR prop and costume display). I couldn't believe it when I saw the film. I thought that Toys R Us was duped. Now I know it was the real suit, but for an unknown reason Singer wanted the Superman III evil suit.

Seeing the unaltered clips, you can now see how washed the out theatrical suit looked.

Wells it no shock you like this footage either. IMO Superman looks TOO bright and too fake in some of those shots, others look quite good though.

I liked the colours in SR, if you have a problem with that tough ****, deal with it.

 

[Super Kal]

he's supposed to stand out... he's Superman, not Batman

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

he's supposed to stand out... he's Superman, not Batman

But in this story he wasnt, he was meant to feel lonely and alienated from mankind, hence the difference in colours.

People can say what they want about this movie, but it is obvious to me Singer chose the colour scheme to match the story.

 

[Super Kal]

oh, so Superman was supposed to come across as depressing?



no wonder this film failed...

 

[dark_b]

oh, so Superman was supposed to come across as depressing?



no wonder this film failed...

wasnt this obvious?
i mean didnt you say more then 100000000 times that superman was depresing in SR becuase of the story?

whats happening on this forum? kakarot asking if superman was depresgin,buggs posting a pic of a guy in the SR suti and saying that he wants this suit in the movie.

i am confused t:

 

[Super Kal]

when one thinks of Superman, the very last thing on their mind should be "depressing"

for Christ's sake, Superman's "the light that will show them the way"...
oh yeah, that's a great looking light there, Singer...

 

[dark_b]

when one thinks of Superman, the very last thing on their mind should be "depressing"

for Christ's sake, Superman's "the light that will show them the way"...
oh yeah, that's a great looking light there, Singer...

should?
you are now telling me that in the last 30 years there was not even one comic where superman was sad and depresing?

 

[matthooper]

The costume was created with specific colors and the CGI was created with specific colors. Each took months and months of hard work. So I ask again, if he wanted the dark depressing colors all along, why did he spend so much time and money on the suit and the original CGI? Why change it in post with a simple stroke of a key. It doesn't make sense. It's just one more mistake to add to the pile. This one we can now see.

I seriously doubt that Singer washed out the colors of the suit in order to create a depressing film. Sure the film was depressing and boring, but that was not Singer's intention.

 

[Super Kal]

yeah, sure... whatever

 

[Super Kal]

should?
you are now telling me that in the last 30 years there was not even one comic where superman was sad and depressing?

I'm not saying he's never been depressed, but that's not how superman is supposed to act. It goes against everything Superman is

 

[matthooper]

I'm not saying he's never been depressed, but that's not how superman is supposed to act. It goes against everything Superman is

Yup. It is just another instance where the fundemental lack of understanding for the character showed through. Singer turned Superman into every other main character in every other one of his films. Dark, brooding, and searching for their place in the world. Guess what, the general public didn't want it. This is why we see no sequel happening in the near future.

What's funny is if a sequel ever does happen, it will be everything Superman Returns wasn't. All the SR lovers will probably hate it. It will be lighter, in tone and mood, have action, and feature the kid in a Jar Jar Binks AOTC lesser role.

You have 60 years of history, of course you might have a depressing story or two, but dark, depressing, brooding, and all the rest of the Singerman traits is not what Superman really is. It's not why he is still an icon. That's a fact.

 

[dark_b]

The costume was created with specific colors and the CGI was created with specific colors. Each took months and months of hard work. So I ask again, if he wanted the dark depressing colors all along, why did he spend so much time and money on the suit and the original CGI? Why change it in post with a simple stroke of a key. It doesn't make sense. It's just one more mistake to add to the pile. This one we can now see.

I seriously doubt that Singer washed out the colors of the suit in order to create a depressing film. Sure the film was depressing and boring, but that was not Singer's intention.

he didnt use filters to change the colorson hte suit. he used the filters for the whole image.

 

[matthooper]

he didnt use filters to change the colorson hte suit. he used the filters for the whole image.

Of course, I didn't mean to suggest that. But the lack of colors of the suit are what stands out. While filtering the entire film, the costume is what suffered the greatest.

For a better effect, he should have filtered the film as he did, and gone back and re-colored the suit so it stood out more. So Superman is the only thing that stands out. That would have been something.

 

[dark_b]

Of course, I didn't mean to suggest that. But the lack of colors of the suit are what stands out. While filtering the entire film, the costume is what suffered the greatest.

For a better effect, he should have filtered the film as he did, and gone back and re-colored the suit so it stood out more. So Superman is the only thing that stands out. That would have been something.

to change the colors oin the suit back would take hours,weeks,months and lots of money.

kakarot had a better idea. he said they should make a very very bright suit. that way when you make a more desaturated movie the suit is still brighter.

but singer obviously wanted a washed out suit.

you have to understand that filters are sometimes used to fake the ambient( i dont know if this is theright word)

for example if you are in a room with a green light then this will change the suit colors.
so if you have a room with white light then you can with the collor correction tools change the footage so that it looks like thre was a green light. you get this right?

for example on a cloudy day the colors are washed out.

singer obviously wanted that feel. like there is a mood ,a different ambient light.

 

[patrickbateman]

Dam Make A Special Edition Dvd Wit This

 

[Super Kal]

they had over 200 million, dark... what do you think they spent that on?

color correction took up a lot of that money and time

 

[dark_b]

they had over 200 million, dark... what do you think they spent that on?

color correction took up a lot of that money and time

thats not true. they didnt spend hours to change the blue to green.
i posted a blog from king kong. did you watch it?if you didnt please do....they explain everything.

 

[Super Kal]

that's just color grading... there are different levels of color correction.

and what they did in SR is not using a filter... a filter is what you put on a camera lens.

 

[dark_b]

that's just color grading... there are different levels of color correction.

and what they did in SR is not using a filter... a filter is what you put on a camera lens.

well i am always talking about color gradient.
so what exactly are you talking about kakarot?
you think they change the colors on supermans suit manualy?

the reason the colors are washed out on teh suit is because the whole footage is. its becasue of the color gradient proces.

 

[Super Kal]

yes, they do do it manually... it's tough, but it's doable. The guy who's making his own version of SR did it manually.

 

[dark_b]

yes, they do do it manually... it's tough, but it's doable. The guy who's making his own version of SR did it manually.

so why would singer and WB pay money to change the suti?

to me it was obvious that teh reason why the colors on supermans suit changed was because of the color gradient.