College Professor Fired for not respecting bible

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I have never understood why hearing another belief is so extremely "cruel" in the eyes of Christians.
I hear their beliefs all the time.
It doesn't erode MY beliefs in any way.
It can't rob me of anything that's mine.
I'll just tell you why I totally disagree.

But they will try to get you banned, silenced, fired....because they just can not handle HEARING what others believe.

It's so obvious that it's because that core of logic that remains in their brains becomes stimulated and it's painful to face the notion that they have based their whole world view on a lie, a fantasy.

So sad.

 

[PLAS]

[Donald Trump]YOU'RE FIRED!!!![/Donald Trump]

recently, a girl I teach in high school, who also happens to be christian, said that I would burn in hell because I don't believe the same things she does

I asked her if wouldn't the christian thing to do in this case would be for her to pray for me?

she stared blankly, like most extreme religious people do when faced with logic

 

[Themanofbat]

I have never understood why hearing another belief is so extremely "cruel" in the eyes of Christians.
I hear their beliefs all the time.
It doesn't erode MY beliefs in any way.
It can't rob me of anything that's mine.
I'll just tell you why I totally disagree.

But they will try to get you banned, silenced, fired....because they just can not handle HEARING what others believe.

It's so obvious that it's because that core of logic that remains in their brains becomes stimulated and it's painful to face the notion that they have based their whole world view on a lie, a fantasy.

So sad.

It's because they need to grow a pair.

People have a hard time adjusting to real life unless they have some balls to help get them through the day.

It is indeed a sad, sad truth...

 

[Themanofbat]

recently, a girl I teach in high school, who also happens to be christian, said that I would burn in hell because I don't believe the same things she does

I asked her if wouldn't the christian thing to do in this case would be for her to pray for me?

she stared blankly, like most extreme religious people do when faced with logic

I hope you slept with her....

After all, that is the PLAS thing to do...

 

[PLAS]

I hope you slept with her....

After all, that is the PLAS thing to do...

nah, I've changed a lot since my bad ole 01-04 days

 

[Themanofbat]

nah, I've changed a lot since my bad ole 01-04 days

I'm still giving you a ball shaving one day... one day...

 

[PLAS]

I actually had my balls shaved throughout the summer, and I told my wife of your mach 3/gillete gel intentions

she said it would be funny to watch

 

[Themanofbat]

I actually had my balls shaved throughout the summer, and I told my wife of your mach 3/gillete gel intentions

she said it would be funny to watch

I'm an entertainer at heart... she'd pee herself laughing... t: t: t:

 

[Dark Carnage]

recently, a girl I teach in high school, who also happens to be christian, said that I would burn in hell because I don't believe the same things she does

I asked her if wouldn't the christian thing to do in this case would be for her to pray for me?

she stared blankly, like most extreme religious people do when faced with logic

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

And see, now there are no Christians here, because they can't handle it.
Just like how Memphis Slim just can not admit that he was caught in a lie.
He just acts like it isn't happening....like a wife who hears her husband molesting their daughter in the next room.

 

[EdRyder]

It's so obvious that it's because that core of logic that remains in their brains becomes stimulated and it's painful to face the notion that they have based their whole world view on a lie, a fantasy.

So sad.

So now your knocking MY religion???!!!
There can only be one recourse to that!
KALIMAHHHHHHHHHHHH!

 

[Leto Atrides]

An instructor, in a position of authority and influence, blatantly and publicly disrespected Christ and the Bible. That's despicable.

First off, saying the Bible isn't literal truth isn't insulting Jesus, the Bible, or Christianity. It's "insulting", it that's what you call disagreeing with, your personal beliefs and maybe those of your sect of Christianity. The vast majority of Catholics and Mainstream Protestants don't think that, and only like half of Evangelical Protestants actually think the Bible is a literal truth.
No one is attacking Christianity by saying something like this, they're disagreeing with Biblical Literalists, a very small group of people.

Also, as far as your instructor comment, it's not like he's an elementary school teacher. College professors are under no obligation to be neutral in any real sense, let alone your skewed definition of it.

 

[Alex Summers]

Actually, I happen to believe the Bible is meant as literal truth, unless a Scripture is explicitly described as a parable or illustrative example (such as Jesus' story about the farmer scattering seed).

I was going to comment on this, but I realized you're from Texas.

 

[zanos]

Not at all. People are allowed to believe what they want, but to openly and publicly disrespect the foundation of a faith that over 70% of Americans believe in...that's just cruel. Organizations like the ACLU have made a career of disrespecting Christ in favor of everything else. That teacher's dimissal was completely deserved. You can think what you want, but there's a line between "free speech" and true intolerance (not just the crap spewed by liberals). This guy just crossed that line.

What are you some sort nazi?

 

[Moviefan2k4]

What are you some sort nazi?

No, I'm not; I just happen to believe that in a world where Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and atheists are protected by groups like the ACLU, then Christians should recieve the same amount of defense, and with the same eagerness. I believe it to be highly despicable when liberals accept and embrace public displays of symbols for other religions, but instantly take offense at the display of a Christian cross or the Ten Commandments. I think it's wrong for people to get punished for teaching about Creation, and no one blinks at students being taught an evolutionary theory as if it were fact. It's dishonorable, in my opinion, for people to demand that "under God" be removed from the Pledge of Allegiance, or for "in God we trust" to be censored from American currency. The United States of America was founded on the principles of Christianity (for more info, try this link), and every time I see something being done to reverse or renounce that...it really hits me right in the heart. These are the kinds of things helping to poison this country, and what I find most disheartening is that many citizens don't even give it a second thought.

 

[Addendum]

I respect a person's right to believe. That doesn't mean I have to respect WHAT they beleive

 

[Themanofbat]

No, I'm not; I just happen to believe that in a world where Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and atheists are protected by groups like the ACLU, then Christians should recieve the same amount of defense, and with the same eagerness. I believe it to be highly despicable when liberals accept and embrace public displays of symbols for other religions, but instantly take offense at the display of a Christian cross or the Ten Commandments. I think it's wrong for people to get punished for teaching about Creation, and no one blinks at students being taught an evolutionary theory as if it were fact. It's dishonorable, in my opinion, for people to demand that "under God" be removed from the Pledge of Allegiance, or for "in God we trust" to be censored from American currency. The United States of America was founded on the principles of Christianity (for more info, try this link), and every time I see something being done to reverse or renounce that...it really hits me right in the heart. These are the kinds of things helping to poison this country, and what I find most disheartening is that many citizens don't even give it a second thought.

For Christ's sake, the guy didn't even say anything negative about the Bible other than it shouldn't be taken so literal... it's an opinion that one can say about the Koran or any other ancient sciptures of any creed.

It's too bad you got hit so hard in the heart with this one (truthfully, you probably don't have a heart, so it would have no effects, as would a kick in the nads, seeing as you don't have any), so I really believe you need a good boppin' to the back of your thick narrow-minded tunnel-visioned skull.

Just MY opinion.

Have a nice day.

 

[Spider-Who?]

i really think everyone here is missing the point.

First off, there are a lot of things to consider when recounting what this professor said and his eventual dismissal.

First off, how do we know that this professor doesn’t have a history of biblical "slander"? I highly doubt he was fired for uttering ONE sentence - if he was, then he really needs to sue the school. The point is, we can't read a single paragraph of a news article (and we ALL know how media can twist/exclude important information) and think we know ALL of what happened and why.

Secondly, if he is a western civ teacher, and he wants to discuss the bible in class, he should teach world religions. Of course, much of western history consists of events brought on by religion (NOT JUST CHRISTIANITY!), so one cant really get away from the topic in such a class. However, the right course of action would be to discuss HOW the religions affected history, NOT the personal ideas the professor has on the religions themselves. And it wasn’t just that he was saying “this is what I believe”, he was TELLING the students what to believe themselves. The students are paying to learn about history, not that they should follow the professors beliefs - or lack thereof.

Third, lets switch the roles here. Lets say that a CHRISTIAN teacher was fired for insisting his beliefs during scheduled class time, while teaching a course that does not condone promoting his religion (which has happened). I think its safe to assume most posters here wouldn’t have anything to say, much less a "serves him/her right" - and yes, to cover your butts, I'm sure most of you will say "that’s not true/don’t assume" - but lets face it: we ALL read your thoughts on Christians. But i digress...The hypocrisy is staggering. Many schools and towns are now being forced to exclude any Christian mention or theme from both public and even private settings, and yet people come in with guns blazing because someone who was on "your side" got in trouble. Threes so much talk about freedom here, but I don’t see any. On EITHER SIDE.

And yes, the post that celldog (or whoever) made listing different occurrences of Christians being unfairly censored IS true. In fact, some of those mentioned have even been discussed on these very boards.

In closing, do I think the guy was wrong? Yes and no. He was wrong for telling his students to adhere to his own beliefs, during a western civilization class. No, because he has a right to free speech. However, if Christians cannot discuss/”impose” their beliefs, then no one should. NO double standards! I do not, however, agree that he should have been fired (unless of course this is a reoccurring problem of his). If this was a one-time deal, he should have simply been told “if you gotta do that, do it on your time, not in class”.

I’m done.

 

[Tally Man]

I go to college to prepare myself for my future employment, to learn new ideas, and have my beliefs challenged. If the kid who reported this wants his or her views to remain unchallenged they should have stayed home instead of going to college and had mom and dad teach them.

 

[Bill]

No, I'm not; I just happen to believe that in a world where Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and atheists are protected by groups like the ACLU, then Christians should recieve the same amount of defense, and with the same eagerness. I believe it to be highly despicable when liberals accept and embrace public displays of symbols for other religions, but instantly take offense at the display of a Christian cross or the Ten Commandments. I think it's wrong for people to get punished for teaching about Creation, and no one blinks at students being taught an evolutionary theory as if it were fact. It's dishonorable, in my opinion, for people to demand that "under God" be removed from the Pledge of Allegiance, or for "in God we trust" to be censored from American currency. The United States of America was founded on the principles of Christianity (for more info, try this link), and every time I see something being done to reverse or renounce that...it really hits me right in the heart. These are the kinds of things helping to poison this country, and what I find most disheartening is that many citizens don't even give it a second thought.

The fact of the matter is that there is no evidence for Creation and that Evolution happens is fact. You can't teach something that has no empirical evidence backing it in a science class. If you wish to learn about it, however, you may attend the fundementalist church of your choice. It's not being banned, it just needs to stay out of the classroom. And it should. Many denominations have abandoned it. Some people are finally starting to wake up.

For even more info try these two links. But being founded on the principles of Christianity(I did note how you worded that) does not equate to this being a Christian country. Many religions and philosophies contain those same principles. The Constitution is a secular document and the Declaration of Independence goes out of its way to maintain a neutral language regarding religion. Neither mentions Jesus or Christianity by name, which is odd considering all the people who claim that this is a "Christian country."

I, myself, would rather not see any religious symbols on any government or public grounds. Keep it in your respective church or home.

 

[Victarion]

The fact of the matter is that there is no evidence for Creation

Scripture, dude.

---Morzan

 

[Bill]

Scripture, dude.

---Morzan

Scripture is not evidence, dud.

Scripture is a bunch of ancient sheepherders writing about their worldview.

 

[Moviefan2k4]

Scripture is not evidence, dud.

Scripture is a bunch of ancient sheepherders writing about their worldview.

This kind of thing makes me wonder: for those who demand logic, try this...

Let's say, for the sake of this scenario, that God does exist, and that He created the universe. Imagine the kind of raw power and energy that would take, to not only create all of existence, but maintain conscious control over it, for eternity...

Now, with that in mind, are you honestly saying that such a divine Being, responsible for all the complexities and attributes of the universe (planets, moons, nebulas, not to mention all the tiny details of Earth's biological environment), could have enough power to control the cosmos...and yet not be able to make sure His actions and commands are documented clearly and accurately?!

 

[Victarion]

Scripture is not evidence, dud.

No need for name calling. Its about the best evidence you could find on Earth.

---Morzan

 

[Franklin Richards]

Evidence. Like fitting all the animals of the earth on one boat.


Riiiiiight.