Iron Man 2 Concerns About Iron Man 2

[kedrell]

Redd's a she.

 

[Travesty]

My biggest concern is Samuel L Jackson, cause ever since Pulp Fiction, I find him to be a very cheesy actor.

That, and how they stole the "you complete me line" from TDK!




J/K, people, J/K.

 

[Heretic]

The tired "you complete me" line could be an example of lazy writing...not a unique event in Marvel history.

And Sam Jackson has been playing Sam Jackson for a long time now. It was a terrible casting decision based on an alternate universe character and his scenes will drag the movie down.

 

[kedrell]

SLJ will be fine, IMO.

The tired "you complete me" line could be an example of lazy writing...not a unique event in Marvel history.

Nor DC history. They used that line as well.

 

[Mr. Earle]

Actually its not a concern, its disappointment. The Mark VI has silver parts:

No it's not:

(Screencapture from the teaser trailer).

So far, we've got 4 new IM armors in Iron Man 2:

 

[Iron_Stark]

Not a real big concern, but is he really going to leave those parts grey?

I like VI-1 color scheme way better.

 

[kedrell]

My main concern after hearing about the Disney shenanigans is how this will effect the marketing for the film. IM2, if marketed right, has an even chance of possibly beating TDK. If the marketing is just 'phoned in' by Paramount though, it may just beat TF2's gross but not much more.

 

[Mr. Earle]

My main concern after hearing about the Disney shenanigans is how this will effect the marketing for the film. IM2, if marketed right, has an even chance of possibly beating TDK. If the marketing is just 'phoned in' by Paramount though, it may just beat TF2's gross but not much more.

I dont think IM2 can beat TDK. TDK had a huge marketing campaign and IM2 has had nothing so far, and lets not forget Ledger's death sadly playing a major part in the film's success.

 

[kedrell]

Well it certainly can't if Paramount just phones the marketing effort in. I'd have agreed about the Ledger factor, but Avatar had nothing like that to help it and still beat the holy hell out of TDK.

 

[Chewy]

Well it certainly can't if Paramount just phones the marketing effort in.

What possible reason would they have to phone the marketing in? To make sure that they make less money?

 

[kedrell]

I did not say Paramount wouldn't do the marketing at all. They're contractually obligated to do it. 'Phoning it in' just means they wouldn't go above & beyond in their marketing of the film. And it'd still be a hit even with that lesser level of marketing. And the more $ they spend on marketing, the more of Paramount's money is at risk. Since they're lame ducks anyway, why wouldn't they try to spend as little as they need to to promote what is already a guaranteed hit? But that's not how you get up there with TDK, and they have the best shot they're going to have for quite a while at doing those kinds of numbers with this movie. It's just that, as a fan, I'd like to see them reach for the heights with this one.

 

[thejon93]

Ugh. That grey looks atrocious. So far, that's my only complaint. I have a strong feeling this movie will become the best comic-book movie to date come time it's arrival.

 

[redhawk23]

The tired "you complete me" line could be an example of lazy writing...not a unique event in Marvel history.

And Sam Jackson has been playing Sam Jackson for a long time now. It was a terrible casting decision based on an alternate universe character and his scenes will drag the movie down.

the line was being used somewhat humorously in this case, not really sarcastically but as if he was knowingly referencing something, the way a person would in real life.

 

[powerbomb1411]

Well it certainly can't if Paramount just phones the marketing effort in. I'd have agreed about the Ledger factor, but Avatar had nothing like that to help it and still beat the holy hell out of TDK.

Avatar had the advantage of Imax AND 3D ticket sales.

 

[Chewy]

I did not say Paramount wouldn't do the marketing at all. They're contractually obligated to do it. 'Phoning it in' just means they wouldn't go above & beyond in their marketing of the film. And it'd still be a hit even with that lesser level of marketing. And the more $ they spend on marketing, the more of Paramount's money is at risk. Since they're lame ducks anyway, why wouldn't they try to spend as little as they need to to promote what is already a guaranteed hit? But that's not how you get up there with TDK, and they have the best shot they're going to have for quite a while at doing those kinds of numbers with this movie. It's just that, as a fan, I'd like to see them reach for the heights with this one.

The more Paramount spends on marketing, the more Iron Man 2 will make. The more Iron Man 2 makes, the more Paramount makes from it. "Lame duck" is an irrelevant and meaningless term in this case, as whether or not they distribute any future Marvel flicks has no bearing on them trying to get the highest return on their current investment.

 

[kedrell]

Avatar had the advantage of Imax AND 3D ticket sales.

I still don't see that as making up for an entire billion dollars more world wide(and it's still got quite a way to go). Even without that advantage it still likely would have beat TDK. Just not by as much.

 

[kedrell]

The more Paramount spends on marketing, the more Iron Man 2 will make. The more Iron Man 2 makes, the more Paramount makes from it. "Lame duck" is an irrelevant and meaningless term in this case, as whether or not they distribute any future Marvel flicks has no bearing on them trying to get the highest return on their current investment.

A penny saved is a penny earned. It's all about the saturation point for the advertising. Paramount doesn't want to risk crossing that line(that would simply be a waste of their $) and their lame duck status could give them added incentive not to risk it. They're gonna make money anyway(their POV) so no need to pull out all the stops. I think this Super Bowl thing is just the tip of the iceberg.

 

[FaT_tONle]

My only concern for IM2 is being more of the same from the first film. I hope they mix it up and it has a different beat to it. But the teaser looked like the same exact thing we got in the first movie. They can get away with repeating the formula twice, but IM3 needs to be a lot different if and when we get there.

On the marketing, keep in mind Paramount gets a bonus if the film reaches a certain plateau. Maybe that number is the same as the first film or higher after the first films BO. If they only have to reach the numbers the last movie did, they they may have little incentive to go all out, so that's the only worry. But the other films have to be marketed appropriately to reach that plateau that earns Paramount the bonus.

 

[kedrell]

The only thing they seem to be keeping from the last film is the tone. Damn smart, if you ask me.

 

[powerbomb1411]

I still don't see that as making up for an entire billion dollars more world wide(and it's still got quite a way to go). Even without that advantage it still likely would have beat TDK. Just not by as much.

I'd make a wager that Dark Knight was shown primarily in regular theaters.

And like Dark Knight, people were going to see Avatar regardless of the price. Avatar was going to make a killing either way, but I'd also be willing to wager that it sold more tickets to Imax and 3D screen then it did regular screens. And where I live, that's an extra $3 per person.

It's easy to set new box office records when you base the records on prices and the prices keep going up. It's just cheating the numbers.

 

[kedrell]

Then just go by attendance/# of tickets sold. I betcha it would still be no contest.

 

[BigSams50]

I'd make a wager that Dark Knight was shown primarily in regular theaters.

And like Dark Knight, people were going to see Avatar regardless of the price. Avatar was going to make a killing either way, but I'd also be willing to wager that it sold more tickets to Imax and 3D screen then it did regular screens. And where I live, that's an extra $3 per person.

It's easy to set new box office records when you base the records on prices and the prices keep going up. It's just cheating the numbers.

http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm

 

[Aluchak]

Terrible marketing. I mean, theres not even going to be a Superbowl Trailer or Teaser! These guys aren't even trying!!!
We've seen 1 teaser, and little pictures, all of them were in the teaser. Nothing new at all since the god damn teaser. Even that was disappointing.

I'm not concerned about the actual movie, but the marketing.

 

[powerbomb1411]

http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm

I've look at it before. This link puts Avatar in it's place.

http://newshaven.org/entertainment/how-does-avatar-stack-up-against-past-box-office-champs/

 

[LightningFlash]

Wait, so....

in Iron Man 2, we'll have a Mark IV, V, VI and VII(the VI with just the silver parts)?

Okay, so maybe THAT'LL be my concern...