Constantine

Darthphere said:
Youre an Owl fanboy.:( :up:

Ha, nah I love Rorshach but as a wanna-be writer, I always ask how I'd tell a story. It's just that he's a very complex character that benefits from being in book form because you have as many pages as you want to explain his character, you don't get that in movies, I think the appeal of Watchmen is simply how real it is. THat the superheros are real people with real things that happen to them, and in the end there just playing dress-up in a world that does'nt need them as the ending shows, and Supervillians don't exist no more than the flying car does.
 
Movies205 said:
I say this lighty but **** the fans :up: It is not our work, I don't pay 10 dollars to see fans work... Fans hate change nad when it's done they love it. For example, "Spiderman has organic webshooters ZOMG", fans, BAH go back to writing fan fiction. I mean don't mistake what I'm saying, critize movies and have your opinions as you should, but I mean this is not our property. I dislike Constantine the movie but WB owns it they can do whatever they want with it, I'm not presumptious enough to have the attitude that "Batman" belongs to everyone and every other popular character.


Well if the fans you just told to **** didnt buy the comics in the first place we wouldnt be getting the movies and the cartoons and so on, so in essence its because of us that they are able to make all these great and bad movies in the first place, so I say everytime someone says **** the fans, really you should be thanking the fans for supporting the books, but I agree fans can be big *******s sometimes.
 
Darthphere said:
Well if the fans you just told to **** didnt buy the comics in the first place we wouldnt be getting the movies and the cartoons and so on, so in essence its because of us that they are able to make all these great and bad movies in the first place, so I say everytime someone says **** the fans, really you should be thanking the fans for supporting the books, but I agree fans can be big *******s sometimes.

Well don't get me wrong I mean the fans are nessecity but if you're writing something or making something, you have to write the story yourself, you can't do something that isn't yours or it won't feel real. So I should rephrase that you should have a fan writing something but someone who's willing to bring something new to the table and won't make it a fan-jackoff hour, if that makes any sense.
 
Movies205 said:
Well don't get me wrong I mean the fans are nessecity but if you're writing something or making something, you have to write the story yourself, you can't do something that isn't yours or it won't feel real. So I should rephrase that you should have a fan writing something but someone who's willing to bring something new to the table and won't make it a fan-jackoff hour, if that makes any sense.


Yeah, I still think the David hayter script is perfect, or at least the bits ive read of it. I dont know why they have someone new writing the script.
 
Different Directors, Different Vision... But as long as they get the ideals I put forth right, I'm happy :up:
 
The Hayter script wasn't bad. Although the ending did need changing IMO :confused:


It could be worse though, I read a review of a Sandman script made in 1997. Good god, was that horrible :eek:
 
Movies205 said:
I say this lighty but **** the fans :up: It is not our work, I don't pay 10 dollars to see fans work... Fans hate change nad when it's done they love it. For example, "Spiderman has organic webshooters ZOMG", fans, BAH go back to writing fan fiction. I mean don't mistake what I'm saying, critize movies and have your opinions as you should, but I mean this is not our property. I dislike Constantine the movie but WB owns it they can do whatever they want with it, I'm not presumptious enough to have the attitude that "Batman" belongs to everyone and every other popular character.


Ok, we can certainly agree there :up:
 
I don't give a **** who likes it doesn't like it or thought it was unfaithful to the book,i watch films from all genre's and era's and am not contained in some label.
I enjoyed constantine because i liked the story and the visual style and thought Keanu and Weiz gave good performances....not a classic or anything but a good movie IMO
 
hunter rider said:
I don't give a **** who likes it doesn't like it or thought it was unfaithful to the book,i watch films from all genre's and era's and am not contained in some label.
I enjoyed constantine because i liked the story and the visual style and thought Keanu and Weiz gave good performances....not a classic or anything but a good movie IMO

You would :mad:
 
Ultimately, I really have no problems with people liking this film. I have that feeling that I probably wouldn't have minded the film much if I had never read the comic as well.

What I don't like is some people going "Well if this movie raped the comics and made all the people that read the comics mad, then that's the only thing that matters".


Not that I'm really singling anybody out or anything :o
 
Eric Draven said:
Ultimately, I really have no problems with people liking this film. I have that feeling that I probably wouldn't have minded the film much if I had never read the comic as well.

What I don't like is some people going "Well if this movie raped the comics and made all the people that read the comics mad, then that's the only thing that matters".


Not that I'm really singling anybody out or anything :o

I get why someone who loved the comic/Character as it was originally invented wouldn't like it,for me i viewed it as just a movie as i never read the book,when i said i didn't care i meant as in that issue for some didn't matter to me
 
Don't forget they made Chas into a teenager for some reason.
 
I liked the videogame as well.


I do see why fans of the comic would hate it, and I sympathise to an extent, but I personally loved the hell out of the movie. It was like angel on a bigger budget :up:
 
Horrorfan said:
I liked the videogame as well.


I do see why fans of the comic would hate it, and I sympathise to an extent, but I personally loved the hell out of the movie. It was like angel on a bigger budget :up:


Well thats the problem isnt it.
 
If anything, Constantine should've been like Spike. Hell, a lot of Spike's mannerisms remind me a lot of John Constantine. Gile's backstory as well. The whole part where Giles and his friends made that huge mess in conjuring up that demon reminds me a lot of the Newcastle incident...:o
 
I wouldn't be surprised if Hellblazer heavily influnced both Buffy and Angel to be honest.
 
What I don't understand about Reeves in the movie, if he HATES Heaven and God so much, why is he so desperate to bargain his way in?

The stupidest thing is when he starts chewing gum at the end. Stupid.
 
Yeah, that part made my eyes go a bit crossed as well. There was that reason that he gave that he sent demons to hell before and he didn't want to see them again, but the only reason why he was killing demons in the first place was because he was a suicide case and he didn't want to go to hell :confused:
 
The thing is, Reeves Constantine wasn't a ****ing *******.

He was just a little rude. Other than that, he wasn't a revolting and repulsive curmudgeon.
 
Did he hate Heaven in the movie? I know he was pissed at God for the way his life turned out, but I don't think he actually hated heaven or God or anything.


And the gum he was chewing at the end was the anti-smoking gum.
 
He did kind of have a dislike for Gabriel, but that could have more to do with him being a halfbreed more than anything else....
 

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