Could the MCU Avengers stop a MOS Krypronian invasion?

[John Locke]

Can't Superman just lift up the machine holding he Tesseract hell even the roof it's on and throw it Ito the portal. Causing it to close by moving through it.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

^jOHN LOCKE always has the answer. Wild boar hunting on a magical island or helping Superman to stop an invasion of aliens from The Avengers reality.

 

[smallville fan]

Let's just say that the bad guys swapped places

Avengers vs Zod+Kryptonians-->I doubt it, let's be realistic, Cap, Hawkeye, Black Widow would all end up kneeling before Zod in seconds, Iron Man's repulsors would only tickle them and with a little pinpoint heat vision they could quite easily fry Jarvis' CPU and by extension the whole suit shuts down. As for Hulk and Thor they're the one who'll probably be the last ones standing and would probably fight it out as much as they can. Hulk would be chucked out into deep space, and since he has no control over his footing in a zero gravity envrionment he'll be in trouble. As for Thor, I imagine Zod being a strategist would find a way to separate Thor from the hammer and would go out of his way to prevent the Hammer returning back.

Superman vs Loki+Chitauri-->This looks like a job for Superman! Heat visions/punches all the Chitauri on the ground and moves at super speeds doing so, grabs nuke and sends it all the way into the heart of the mothership, much further than Iron Man did. Then he flies back down to Earth and destroys the portal. As for Loki while he rage rants that he's a god etc etc. Superman grabs a whole Leviathan(those big Space Worm/Whale things) and chucks it and smashes Loki into it repeatedly.

Then Superman flies into space, smiles, winks at the audience, rolls credits, The End.

 

[dru-zod2501]

Cap, with all his skills is still no match against even a bottom rank, still-afraid-of-yellow-sun Kryptonian, he was getting pwned by Loki single-handedly. Even moreso with Hawkeye, Widow, those arrows aren't gonna do ****. Iron Man needed a Supercharge just to stand toe-to-toe with Thor, and he's going to do what against Kryptonians with their own battle armor as well as superpowers? That only leaves Hulk & Thor to do the brunt of the heavy lifting and it wasn't a cakewalk for either of them against the Chitauri, glorified battle droids that they are.

The Chitauri are not physically enhanced, they wouldn't stand against Superman if he went full out, same for those leviathan ships. IT also wouldn't take much for Kal to take the portal device and the roof it was sitting on if necessary, and throw it back where it came from

 

[InJustice]

Speaking of Cap, I wonder how well his shield tanks a Kryptonian punch and heat vision.

 

[the5timechamp]

Superman would clear up the mess pretty damn quick..and this being the Marvel movie universe the only enemies who really exist are the ones onscreen, even though hundreds come through they generally just fly around like a swarm waiting their turn to be swatted down...thus casualties are kept to a minimum..

 

[smallville fan]

Speaking of Cap, I wonder how well his shield tanks a Kryptonian punch and heat vision.

google Captain America's Shield vs Superman, the forums that discuss this are over 9000!

 

[thorstone]

Thor and Hulk could destroy the machines but it would boil down to Zod vs Thor and Hulk (Stark wouldn't have survived). Zod could kill Thor, but the Hulk would only get more and more angry until he broke Zod or ate him or both.

 

[Hammer!]

Has Hulk ever even lost a battle in the comics? 'Cause I'm having a hard time thinking of one?

 

[Blake II]

Wow, people really think Avengers won't be able to stop Zod and his goons?

Brb Thor takes out the machine
Brb Hulk & IronMan take care of Zod and his warriors
Brb Thor comes back from destroying the machine and helps defeat Zod


And Superman would also destroy the Chituari and Loki faster than the Avengers could.

 

[Hammer!]

I guess if one could make the argument either Hulk or thor could individually beat Supes, one could make the argument the Avengers as a whole should be able to accomplish everything he achieved singularly.

 

[InJustice]

Wow, people really think Avengers won't be able to stop Zod and his goons?

Brb Thor takes out the machine
Brb Hulk & IronMan take care of Zod and his warriors
Brb Thor comes back from destroying the machine and helps defeat Zod


And Superman would also destroy the Chituari and Loki faster than the Avengers could.

Hulk and Thor are not going to take out the Kryptonians easily, it's gonna be a hard fought battle...I mean, Superman had a challenge against Faora and Nam-Ek at Smallville. Thor and Hulk will have a problem with the Kryptonians who are trained and bred to fight/kill ON TOP of having superspeed and strength. Iron Man easily gets reduced to rubble vs. Faora and Nam-Ek (due to lack of Kryptonian technology knowledge + Faora's combat skills being stellar).

Idk if Thor has enough strength to counteract the gravity beam, but I'd say it's plausible. He's going to be ****ed up by the anti-gravity though (same goes for Hawkeye if he decides to bomb the World Engine with his arrows, because he's gonna accidentally kill people that way).

 

[Poni_Boy]

I see people are still underestimating Thor's power levels. Even after he wrecked the Frost Giant's home. And unleashed an insane lightning storm into the alien portal.

Zod & co might have been bred for combat but I don't see how that would stop a ton of lightning surging through them.

Hulk would probably decimate the Black Zero by himself

 

[the5timechamp]

I ask again, how much effect would the magical based powers of Thor aid him in battle against the Kryptonians?

 

[InJustice]

5timechamp has a point, we don't exactly know if Lightning would affect Kryptonians (due to yellow sun powers, or due to their armor), or if magic weakness was written in.

 

[Poni_Boy]

Based on the film? No one knows. They haven't established if magic even exists in that franchise.

Based on the comics? It would be a lot. Superman's second biggest weakness is magic.


And lightning isn't magical. It's electricity. Thor can manipulate lightning through magic, but the lightning itself isn't.

 

[InJustice]

If it doesn't exist in MOS, then Thor is ****ed in terms of skill set vs. Kryptonians. He's already ****ed if he decides to go balls deep and lightning strike the world engine, seeing how anti-gravity would make it so that he electrocutes Metropolis citizen.

 

[KalMart]

Scarlett could probably stop'em herself.

 

[Poni_Boy]

That doesn't make sense. He directs lightning without factoring gravity at all. Unless they stated that there's an force field around either of the Kryptonian ships that's impervious to kinetic energy.

Then again, saying that magic doesn't exist in MOS but trying to do the character swap is rather silly. I could say that in the MCU the radiation of the sun doesn't affect Kryptonians the same way. Gotta keep all the established rules or none.

 

[InJustice]

The film makes it pretty clear that the World Engine (at the very least) has its own gravitational field, you see this even as Superman flies towards it, he gets pushed into the hole where the gravity beam is pushing the Earth. Same goes for when the army decided to unleash a barrage of missiles against it, only to find it redirected towards Metropolis citizens.

It's not impervious, but as Superman demonstrated, you're going to need a hell of a lot of effort to counteract the gravitational field of the Engine.

 

[Poni_Boy]

Lightning is not affected by gravity. So what does it matter?

 

[113]

Someone mentioned magic? Really?

This isn't the comics, the movies have gone out of their way to tell us that Thor's powers are just an advanced TECHNOLOGY, it's NOT magic. We're trying to keep things at least a tiny-bit realistic. Once you start talking about magic and supernatural stuff it's has no basis in anything, so the conversation is a crapshoot.

At least with "advanced technology we don't yet understand" there is some presumable measurable quality to them. Some foundation we can make inferences about.

 

[Visualiza]

I think the Avengers would have about a snowball's chance in Hell at stopping Faora on her worst day. We didn't even get to see the extent of Zod's forces, but any one of them would be enough to overwhelm the Avengers.

MoS Superman vs the Chitauri invasion would be an ugly baby indeed.

 

[Adder]

I think the Avengers would have about a snowball's chance in Hell at stopping Faora on her worst day. We didn't even get to see the extent of Zod's forces, but any one of them would be enough to overwhelm the Avengers.

MoS Superman vs the Chitauri invasion would be an ugly baby indeed.

Faora was knocked out by a regular old missile....I think Thor or HULK could easily surpass that level of force.

not to mention all you have to do is get in a few shots, damage the kryptonian suits and each kryptonian would be crippled.

 

[Bruce Malone]

I'm sorry but that chitari invading force was one of the saddest invading armies i've ever seen.

They were pretty much composed of a bunch of aliens on ski-doos flying around willy-nilly smashing windows pretty much. Black window and hawkeye totally powerless seemed to have not much of a problem taking them out individually.

Even those giant snake things seemed to operate without a plan and just sort of floated around and smashed into things.

Compare that to an organized force of kryptonian warriors? each of whom who'd be at the least as strong as the hulk and arguably stronger than thor. It's not even close to how much a bigger threat superman faced?

I don't think the avengers would stand much of a chance.