Justice League Danny Elfman Scoring Justice League - Part 1

[ddddeeee]

Zimmer said in a radio interview that he didn't like Affleck's Batman and found him uninspiring compared to Bale's. It made me laugh at how casually he said it.

 

[Consona]

Zimmer said in a radio interview that he didn't like Affleck's Batman and found him uninspiring compared to Bale's. It made me laugh at how casually he said it.

Link or did not happen.

 

[BH/HHH]

I remember him saying he preferred Bales but not that he didn’t like Affleck’s.

 

[matt47]

If elfman doesn’t work out, they really should consider asking Christopher Drake to make the leap to feature films. He gets these characters.

Would've much preferred him doing this.

 

[BH/HHH]

If elfman doesn’t work out, they really should consider asking Christopher Drake to make the leap to feature films. He gets these characters.

Agreed

His All Star Superman and Dark Knight Returns scores were amazing

 

[Greens]

Link or did not happen.

http://www.indiewire.com/2017/03/ha...s-ben-affleck-christian-bale-pain-1201794436/

Zimmer elaborates:

“I spent months trying to come up with something for Ben. The Batman that I know and the one I learned is the one that Christian did, and Ben plays it differently. And I can’t quite shake that off. For me, the Christian Bale character was always completely unresolved. It was always about that moment at the beginning of the first movie, where he sees his parents getting killed. It was basically arrested development. The Ben character is more middle-aged, he seems to be grumpy as hell but I didn’t feel the pain that I felt in Christian’s performance. And it was that pain that made be interested.”

 

[Consona]

Just f***ing pay Zimmer $20m or something to finish this.

 

[Greens]

Just f***ing pay Zimmer $20m or something to finish this.

Yeah, because everyone knows Zimmer works best when he doesn't give a **** about the project.

 

[-JKR-]

So...instead of following up themes that are already in place. It's easier t just create something boring and generic?
And if that was really the case they should've kept junkie in and had Elfman be the sort of middle man between he and whedon. Or something i dunno....just...ahhhhhj this sucks.

Dude, we're talking about people, and not LEGO pieces. Someone like Danny Elfman would not just come in to be a "middle man".

And keep I'm mind, I'm a fan of Hans Zimmer and Junkie XL's music from Man of Steel and Batman V Superman, and I'm a fan of Snyder's last two movies, as well.

Whedon probably didn't see eye to eye with Junkie XL and brought in Danny Elfman as a replacement. And while he'll probably keep some of the previous themes, he's not just coming in to ape their work. He would probably be the first one to tell them that they should just get back Junkie XL if that's what they were looking for. Keep in mind that Elfman had a major falling out for a similar thing with Sam Raimi on "Spider-Man 2," as he refused to reuse Christopher Young's "Hellbound" theme and told him to get Young if that's what he wanted.

And it's Whedon who encouraged Elfman to use John Williams' themes, for example, so I wouldn't be surprised if he also encouraged him to just to his thing. Keep in mind that Warner Bros. has clearly tried to push this movie into a lighter direction, so this is probably has an effect on the score, as well.

I love the Superman and Batman themes from the last few movies, as well, and I hope they'll pop up somewhere in the score. But I also get that this is Danny Elfman's baby now. And unfortunately one he had to rush through to get made. But personally, I'm really relieved by how "Friends or Foes" sounds, because the "Heroes Theme" track was a tad underwhelming.

Just f***ing pay Zimmer $20m or something to finish this.

That's not really how it works. And Zimmer probably just sneezed into a million dollars today. So...

 

[Kane52630]

[Reads the last few pages]

 

[I Am The Knight]

Just f***ing pay Zimmer $20m or something to finish this.

Lol, you've gone mad.

 

[Consona]

Lol, you've gone mad.

A long time ago.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

Friends and Foes sounds like it could come from a Spider-Man movie. This is a good thing

 

[-JKR-]

Friends and Foes sounds like it could come from a Spider-Man movie. This is a good thing

It sounds like old-school Danny Elfman, which I like!

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

What I've heard so far sounds dull but I've had my expectations for the soundtrack/score very low for a while now so nothing I'll be losing sleep over.

 

[matt47]

Just listening to "Earth"...

 

[Marvolo]

[Reads the last few pages]

More disappointment than hate.

 

[Lighthouse]

I thought Zimmer retired from superhero films. Why are people acting like WB just kicked his ass out the door?

 

[Legendver2]

I wonder who the Anti-Hero is in "Anti-Hero's Theme"

 

[flickchick85]

Man of Steel as an amazing score but BvS imo not so much. I cannot understand why they didn’t ever use the full blaring MOS theme in the film. Other than the WW theme and Beautiful Lie I think the rest is kind of eh tbh.

Agreed. MoS remains one of my favorite scores, but outside of those you mentioned, I found the BvS score to be mostly uninspired noise. I had little interest in hearing what Junkie XL would do for this without Zimmer.

That said, these Elfman tracks sound equally uninspired thus far.

Whoever suggested they bring Christopher Drake up to the big leagues, I salute you. His "All-Star Superman" score still gets me choked up, and I didn't even care for that movie.

 

[Legendver2]

It's always going to be a shame on the what-if scenario of Zimmer's JL theme. It would've been a thing of beauty. But alas the stars did not align.

 

[Lighthouse]

I really liked XL's Arcade and his score for Fury Road, but in BvS I can't even remember a score that wasn't originally in MoS. I think his talents are best used elsewhere.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

Agreed. MoS remains one of my favorite scores, but outside of those you mentioned, I found the BvS score to be mostly uninspired noise. I had little interest in hearing what Junkie XL would do for this without Zimmer.

That said, these Elfman tracks sound equally uninspired thus far.

Whoever suggested they bring Christopher Drake up to the big leagues, I salute you. His "All-Star Superman" score still gets me choked up, and I didn't even care for that movie.

I think Christopher Drake doing a major score would be nice.

That being said, I feel like the problem could be less Elfman and more that the movie's so bland that it creates an inverse inspiration.

I'm one of the Elfman supporters, BTW.

 

[Adhesive Boy]

That number is why Marvel films have become less interesting and the same will happen to the DCEU. Fox doesn't seem to care about hitting a billion and their slate of films will likely continue to be more interesting because of it.

That's a pretty funny thing to say when Marvel's current outing has the most unorthodox director for any big superhero movie and is more unique in feel than most. Especially in this thread about scores since Mothersbaugh's score is easily more unique than anything that was in MoS or BvS.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

It's always going to be a shame on the what-if scenario of Zimmer's JL theme. It would've been a thing of beauty. But alas the stars did not align.

I would have been so on board with Hans' JL score. Junkie's not so much, but I really think if Hans put as much of what he put into for MOS for JL, it would have been pretty great. But he felt like he said all he needed to say in the genre with BvS, I guess.

I'd still welcome him back with open arms if he ever decided to return though. His work on MOS was the perfect response to everyone clamoring for a return to the old days, including myself (someone who sees the Williams score similarly to the James Bond and Star Wars themes)