Daredevil 2

[Ben Urich]

There can't be a Daredevil movie without Kingpin. Really, he should be in the background, throwing mercenaries and costumed thugs at DD until he's got no other choice but to go after him himself.

 

[Iron Man™]

^ Agreed. How many of you think Duncan should come back?

 

[Ben Urich]

^ Agreed. How many of you think Duncan should come back?

I think he deserves another shot. I attribute most of the Kingpin's flaws in the first film to the writers and the director, not to Duncan himself (although he shoulders some responsibility, too).

 

["Iron Man"]

Daredevil needs to be remade, and be much darker and truer to the comics.

I'm writing a remake (hey!.....don't hate me) where we start out with Matt as a little kid, go through his college years, meets Foggy, meets Karen Page, no Elektra (in this one), no Kingpin (just Wilson Fisk on the rise to Kingpin, and Wilson is white, I'm being true to the comics) and Matt has the original yellow/black/a little hint of red costume for the entire movie! He'll have the traditional red costume in my sequel..."Daredevil Returns" (I have it wear he leaves Hell's Kitchen at the end of the first one)

I can't wait to get the script done! (And I don't care what you say about remaking it, because it needs to be better than the current one is.)

 

["Iron Man"]

I think he deserves another shot. I attribute most of the Kingpin's flaws in the first film to the writers and the director, not to Duncan himself (although he shoulders some responsibility, too).

I liked Duncan (he was the best part of the entire movie) but I feel DD needs to be remade with a "truer to the comics" version of Wilson Fisk, as in him being white. (no offense to Duncan or the black community, that's just the way it was originally)

 

[Ben Urich]

I had no problem with the powers that be hiring Duncan for the role. However, there is a non-racist reason to not approve: as others have pointed out, there's no way the real mob would let a black man rise to Kingpin-level power. They just don't like black people.

I'm also working on a story for a Daredevil relaunch, but there's not a script. Yet.

 

[Ben Breeck]

I had no problem with the powers that be hiring Duncan for the role. However, there is a non-racist reason to not approve: as others have pointed out, there's no way the real mob would let a black man rise to Kingpin-level power. They just don't like black people.

I'm also working on a story for a Daredevil relaunch, but there's not a script. Yet.

Cough, Cough, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellsworth_%22Bumpy%22_Johnson , Cough.

 

["Iron Man"]

I'm also working on a story for a Daredevil relaunch, but there's not a script. Yet.

Cool. I love the story I have done, and I start my script Friday. (I really believe in this one)

Daredevil Origins (tentative title)....

...Matt Murdock...college student. Foggy Nelson....friend. Two men destined for something great, and the journey...is just beginning.....Matthew, blinded since early age, has secretly developed a sixth sense, what he calls his "radar sense". Matt and Foggy have had great times in college, but when they move back to Hell's Kitchen, they meet a new man....Wilson Fisk. Fisk seems power-hungry, and will do anything for it! When trouble lurks in the night, Matthew adopts an alter-ego, known as the Daredevil, Man Without Fear. Nothing can stop him, except Fisk and his armies of followers. Daredevil/Matt encounters all sorts of things, and must decide what is best for him...Life with his new girlfriend Karen Page and friend Foggy....or death, by hand of Wilson Fisk.

Well, that's the story. It should be recognized that i've made many changes from the MSJ version...
-Daredevil will wear his original yellow costume the entire movie
-Karen Page is the girlfriend, no Elektra.....yet (she'll appear in the sequel..DD2: Daredevil Returns)
-Fisk is not yet known as The Kingpin (he will become Kingpin in DD2) and he is white, as I said he would be.
-This movie focuses more on Matt/Daredevil's origin, rather than Kingpin and/or action.
-There is a cliffhanger ending for a future villain (DD2's villain)....but cannot tell you who...

I will actually begin the script on Friday (after I see SR) but that is the story I have for it.

Like it? Is it better than MSJ's version?

 

[Rizor]

I think the filmmakers did the right thing going with the Miller storyline. Daredevil is more of a second-tier character and that storyline was his claim to fame. Going through the origins and early career might work for a TV series or a comic but in movies where everything just costs so much, it just seems more like the same old superhero story. And the yellow costume? I love it as well, but yellow isn't really the most cinematic color out there.

Of course, this is all just fantasy - the way we would've made it regardless of whether studios would ever greenlight the project.

I've often tried to rethink DD as well. I think the movie itself is good, but could definitely use some work. But considering the fact that the movie had to get in the origin, Elektra, Bullseye, and Kingpin, I think they did an admirable job tying everything together.

 

[Ben Urich]

The Miller story was a good start, but they crammed it into a 90 minute film when it needed to be 150 minutes.

 

[skorponok]

DD isn't as dark as Batman? Ha. How many DD comics have you read?

That's what I'm saying. Espescially the current comics...

 

[chiefchirpa]

Yellow costume is not what today comic readers identifies Daredevil with. Think of Batman - is it wise to give him bright blue and gray costume in his movie?

 

["Iron Man"]

Yes, I know a lot of folks wouldn't like it, but the yellow costume is his original costume, and If i'm writing a movie called "Daredevil Origins" I kind of have to give him the yellow costume, but just for the first movie I'm writing. He will have the red one we're used to in 2 and 3.

 

[Ben Urich]

I think in mine I'm going to have him go from the black outfit (Man Without Fear) to the current red one... maybe with the yellow threads hanging up in a closet somewhere.

 

[chiefchirpa]

Batman Begins is a movie about origin, and it has Batman costume that's completely pitch black. Same as Batman 89.

Daredevil's dark crimson is there to frighten the criminals and make him unique. To make it black would make him look similar to ninja and yellow would be pointless.

 

["Iron Man"]

chiefchirpa, I actually thought about making the yellow costume part a "flashback" to his earliest days, but we will see.

 

[drmick]

Hard to see how yellow could look cool. Maybe a yellow trim like Wolverine in the X-men films?

Hmmmm...... where did that costume thread go? It was a good read.

 

[Aren]

I didnt like Daredevil, I hated Elektra, hope they will never ever make any sequels

 

[Mrh7448]

http://www.hollywood.com/news/detail/id/3481152

looks like Ben might not be back anyway, though I don't know why they wouldn't make it dark, let's hope they don't go the opposite way and try and make it too family oriented.

(though I don't know how reliable the source is) Personally I'd be glad to see someone other then Affleck take over the role. Forget Elektra bring in Typhoid Mary, and keep Kingpin in jail, but have him directing things from inside the joint.

Could be done as a turf war, now that Kingpin is believed to be out of the picture it would create a void in the underworld for a new head honcho to emerge.

 

[kirbyfan]

Some great ideas guys. I disagree about a black man not being able to rise in the ranks of crime. As I read the comics the Kingpin is now his own man and doesn't care about the other crime bosses.

Also in case some may not know, and this is fact, in the 1930s Bumpy Johnson was one of the big time crime bosses that the italian mob had to deal with in Harlem. He was at the top in spite of the mob, his organization was huge throughout the black community!

I envision the Kingpins rise as the sameway. Also this is just make believe, a comic book story so any real rules don't apply anyway!

DD2 shouldn't be a remake, but a an all new one should definitely be made. All this discussion has made me want to watch the Directors cut again.

 

[Iron Man™]

I didnt like Daredevil, I hated Elektra, hope they will never ever make any sequels

I think Daredevil has one more in him for a sequel. If the story was good nonetheless.

 

[Marvel Man]

IMO, i thought Daredevil wasnt that bad. My favorite character was Eledtra cause she had a progression in the movie and Garner did well for doing most of her stunts. But once they transfered her to Elektra she went down hill. Michael Douglas Clarke was probably the best person in the movie. like i said it wasnt that bad imo and they should try one more.

 

[Lex Luthor]

I wouldnt mind a sequel to Daredevil. It wasnt anything that could be called, great. But the film had it's moments, and it wasnt complete crap. For a sequel, I think there should be a radical change in tone and make it much more dark and grittier than the previous installment. The same should happen with The Punisher as well. The only difference, is that I thought Thomas Jane did a much better job as Frank Castle, than Ben Affleck did as Matt. Would have been interesting to see what Guy Pearce would have done with the role of Daredevil.

 

[Iron Man™]

IMO, i thought Daredevil wasnt that bad. My favorite character was Eledtra cause she had a progression in the movie and Garner did well for doing most of her stunts. But once they transfered her to Elektra she went down hill. Michael Douglas Clarke was probably the best person in the movie. like i said it wasnt that bad imo and they should try one more.

I couldn't agree more MM.

 

[ReptileOrion]

I'm all for a Daredevil sequel. I was a fan of the theatrical cut....love the directors cut. I honestly didn't have a problem with Affleck's performance. Garner was different from the comics but I felt like it worked. I loved the new take on the Kingpin. Duncan is tall enough and large enough to play the Kingpin why not cast him? I enjoyed Colin's performance as Bullseye. Let's bring on a sequel.