Daredevil reboot in the near future?

[Dark Raven]

At the end of the day though, BOTH versions still feature the playground scene. Dock points for that. One of the worst, cringe-inducing sequences ever in a comic book movie.

It would be cool in the series if there is another playground, and someone challenges him to a fight, but DD just shakes his head and decks his enemy quickly, as if to say he has no time for this nonsense.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

It would be cooler if playgrounds were never invented in the MCU to prevent such travesties from ever occurring again.

 

[metaphysician]

Sigh. I have mixed feelings. On one hand, the playground fight scene is horribly out of place and makes no sense on several levels. OTOH, it was also the best fight scene in the movie, IMO. The rest tended to get overburdened with rather bad wirework.

 

[gohei_]

Sigh. I have mixed feelings. On one hand, the playground fight scene is horribly out of place and makes no sense on several levels. OTOH, it was also the best fight scene in the movie, IMO. The rest tended to get overburdened with rather bad wirework.

Yeah the fight choreography was pretty bad. There are some parts of the bar fight that I really like but apart from that it's pretty meh.

 

[ChukNoris]

Re-watched a few House of Cards episodes, and I thought Kevin Spacey would make a good Kingpin.

Thoughts?

 

[Rorschach2012]

Re-watched a few House of Cards episodes, and I thought Kevin Spacey would make a good Kingpin.

I don't know, I think he's a better fit for Luthor. James Gandolfini would've made a great Kingpin

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Re-watched a few House of Cards episodes, and I thought Kevin Spacey would make a good Kingpin.

Thoughts?

Love Spacey, but he's too old

 

[Spider-Aziz]

There is a day and night between the two versions of the 2003 movie, the theatrical version is ridiculously broken, the director cut is great improvement, and it's lots of fun

I might be one of only two members here to not hate the playground fight scene, and rather enjoy it

 

[Hypestyle]

We'll see how things progress with the TV show development. I hope it doesn't skimp on suspense.

 

[Blind_Lawyer]

I didn't mind the DD Director's Cut. It was certainly leaps and bounds across a playground better than the theatrical version, but I'm still hoping to see a legitimate DD reboot in the future. I'm not sure what the Netflix show means for the potential in that. Still, I'm super excited about the possibilities of the Netflix show.

I hope it's dark and gritty and Hell's Kitcheny and full of Hand ninjas and, yes, some good legal drama stuff.

 

[Loki882]

I didn't mind the DD Director's Cut. It was certainly leaps and bounds across a playground better than the theatrical version, but I'm still hoping to see a legitimate DD reboot in the future. I'm not sure what the Netflix show means for the potential in that. Still, I'm super excited about the possibilities of the Netflix show.

I hope it's dark and gritty and Hell's Kitcheny and full of Hand ninjas and, yes, some good legal drama stuff.

Ah yes Hell's Kitchen, with it's nice and clean streets, expensive apartments, and upscale eating establishments and stores. t: Hell's Kitchen hasn't been "Hell's Kitcheny" for like 30 years (it's a really nice place these days), so it's amusing that Marvel still tries to portray it as the rundown, crime-infested cesspool.

 

[Blind_Lawyer]

Ah yes Hell's Kitchen, with it's nice and clean streets, expensive apartments, and upscale eating establishments and stores. t: Hell's Kitchen hasn't been "Hell's Kitcheny" for like 30 years (it's a really nice place these days), so it's amusing that Marvel still tries to portray it as the rundown, crime-infested cesspool.

Well, that would be the idea considering that's the Hell's Kitchen of Daredevil's world.

 

[Loki882]

Yes, and it worked, thirty years ago. But since they're trying to put DD in the modern world, it doesn't work nearly as well.

 

[Blind_Lawyer]

Yes, and it worked, thirty years ago. But since they're trying to put DD in the modern world, it doesn't work nearly as well.

I don't know if I agree with that. Modern is one thing, but realistic is another. If audiences can accept alien invasions, men frozen in time, epic sci-fi space travelers, why can't we have a gritty Hell's Kitchen?

I understand what you're saying: that the Hell's Kitchen of Daredevil's world is not the Hell's Kitchen of reality, but comics seldom exist in the realm of reality. Why should this be any different?

 

[Dasher10]

Yes, and it worked, thirty years ago. But since they're trying to put DD in the modern world, it doesn't work nearly as well.

Most of Manhattan is like that now. Queens is also just as middle-class as it always was. Staten Island and Brooklyn on the other hand have had downward mobility while The Bronx is still a rough area.

IMO, I'd replace Hell's Kitchen with Bensonhurst, Bed-Stuy or Red Hook. I'd also bring Luke Cage out of Harlem and into South Bronx, Brownsville or Clifton.

Just my opinion.

 

[Blind_Lawyer]

Most of Manhattan is like that now. Queens is also just as middle-class as it always was. Staten Island and Brooklyn on the other hand have had downward mobility while The Bronx is still a rough area.

IMO, I'd replace Hell's Kitchen with Bensonhurst, Bed-Stuy or Red Hook. I'd also bring Luke Cage out of Harlem and into South Bronx, Brownsville or Clifton.

Just my opinion.

I was thinking that too, but it might piss off fans more than just showing a more unrealistic version of Hell's Kitchen.

 

[metaphysician]

I was thinking that too, but it might piss off fans more than just showing a more unrealistic version of Hell's Kitchen.

So? The fans ( by which you presumably mean comic fans ) don't matter. What matters is how it goes over with the general audience.

Who, admittedly, probably won't mind either way.

 

[Blind_Lawyer]

So? The fans ( by which you presumably mean comic fans ) don't matter. What matters is how it goes over with the general audience.

Who, admittedly, probably won't mind either way.

Exactly. The same general audience who doesn't know/care what Hell's Kitchen is really like. So why bother changing the setting?

 

[Dark Raven]

Well in Escape from New York, which was set in 1997, Manhattan had become a maximum security prison island. We all know that it was never like that. Even if they retconned it to be sometime in the future, that would imply that things deteriorated again from the clean and safe Manhattan everyone knows today.

 

[cherokeesam]

Exactly. The same general audience who doesn't know/care what Hell's Kitchen is really like. So why bother changing the setting?

I'd say there's a very high probability that a very large chunk of the viewing audience know NYC well enough to know that Hell's Kitchen isn't a slum anymore; especially all the NYC film critics who'd review the show. The show would lose cred instantly over such a glaring geographical faux pas.

If we're going to relocate DD, and we should, a topical crime city like Detroit or Baltimore would be more relevant for Murdoch to ply his trade.

 

[Dark Raven]

No relocation is needed. Since the MCU is effectively an alternate universe to ours, they can just give an explanation that crime has escalated in NY and things have deteriorated to the point of being like in the 70s and 80s. Other series/ movies which paint an alternate future which is clearly different to ours don't instantly lose credibility.

And they do that for other movies/ series set in London all the time. People in London know the city well, yet you get the likes of Shane Richie creating scenes in Sherlock Holmes where somehow the Houses of Parliament can possibly connect to Tower Bridge in the space of 5 or so minutes just by running through some underground catacombs. They are nowhere near each other and the layout just doesn't work like that, secret underground passages or not.

 

[Blind_Lawyer]

I'd say there's a very high probability that a very large chunk of the viewing audience know NYC well enough to know that Hell's Kitchen isn't a slum anymore; especially all the NYC film critics who'd review the show. The show would lose cred instantly over such a glaring geographical faux pas.

If we're going to relocate DD, and we should, a topical crime city like Detroit or Baltimore would be more relevant for Murdoch to ply his trade.

I don't know if I agree with your first point. There will be a portion of the audience familiar with NYC, but a large chunk? Netflix subscribers are all over the world.

And, not trying to be difficult, but, again, if critics, viewers, etc can accept an acrobatic blind lawyer ninja, why can't they accept a more stereotypical and unrealistic portrayal of an inner city neighborhood? Besides, the TV series doesn't have to be set in 2013 either. Marvel's timeline is ambiguous and anachronistic. They have tech from the future in the past, and tech from the past in the future and no one's aged much since the 60's.

Daredevil is a fantastic character who exists in a fantastic world. Why can't it be left at that?

 

[TheVileOne]

They could always move Daredevil to Detroit or Los Angeles.

 

[gohei_]

I say no to relocating DD. I just don't see the point.

 

[Monochron]

I wonder who could play Daredevil for the TV show. A fan favorite choice seems to be Michael C. Hall.