The Dark Knight Dark Knight Press Conference on June 8!

[Darkest Knight]

yeah Bale was a b@stard for doing that but the fans were pretty pushy as well. they asked, he didnt respond, they stole his picture anyway. if it happened to me i'd grab the camera and throw it.

Don't act like you were there ...

And no, you wouldn't.

As for Bale? Yeah he isn't as big as he was in the intial stages of BEGINS, but it isn't a big deal. He still is fairly built, and retained that athetic look. I personally won't mind as much because I doubt his physical body will play as much of a role in this one, as we got in the scenes from the previous movie. You could tell in the final shot of BEGINS, which by then it was late August and filming was warapping up he had lost a good portion of his mass, and I thought he looked best in the suit in that scene. He was built, but wasn't so big that the tight rubber suit was constricting him. His jaw size and skin definetely looked best in that final scene in the cowl.

 

[Steelsheen]

Don't act like you were there ...

yeah i wasnt, i was just stating an opinion on what i think happened. of course witnessing it first hand is different.

And no, you wouldn't.

actually i would. seriously.

 

[Darkest Knight]

LOL, okay bro ...

 

[dark_b]

i dont like hes hairstyle. he had shorter hair in hte back in BB.

 

[Retroman]

Christ, its going to be the SR boards all over again...

Don't think it will get that bad....hopefully.

Also, with the way Bale has altered his physique in the last 3-4 years, I would not be surprised if his doctor refused to provide any more "chemical assistance" in order for him to gain his muscle mass back for TDK. He has already stated publicly that his doc was quite upset with his weight loss/weight gain for the production of "The Machinest" through BB, and that it did affect his heart and possibly his kidneys somehow.

Very good point. It could also be that Nolan wanted a more toned Bale to avoid complications that the first Batsuit had?

 

[Retroman]

More footage and another report from the press conference courtesy of NBC 5 WMAQ TV

http://video.nbc5.com/player/?id=117637

Daley: Ask Me Only Questions About Batman
Holy Questions, NBC5!

POSTED: 6:16 pm CDT June 8, 2007
UPDATED: 7:45 pm CDT June 8, 2007

CHICAGO -- Over 500 movies and TV shows have been made in Chicago since 1989, bringing the city more than $1 billion in revenue for local businesses.


On Friday, an advisory from Mayor Richard Daley's office said he would only take questions about Batman.


"So that's what we tried," said NBC5's Phil Rogers. "It didn't work out as well as we hoped, but we did learn a little."

Since Daley is playing host to Batman filmmaking and presiding over the transformation of Chicago into Gotham City, NBC5 figured we'd quiz the mayor a bit about his bat knowledge.

Over the years, who was batman's scariest enemy -- the Penguin, the Joker, or the Riddler?

"That's too tough a question. Next question," Daley smirked.

But these are pretty dark movies -- is the mayor worried at all about Chicago standing in for the ominous Gotham City?

"No, Chicago's a happy place," Daley said with a smirk, adding that people know that movies and TV shows are just entertainment.

But holy summertime, Batman -- how do you shoot in Chicago when it's so hot?

"I'm wearing a black rubber suit in the humidity most of the summertime, so if you see a long trail of sweat through the city, follow it and you will find me," joked Batman actor Christian Bale alongside Daley.

Of course, there are political questions for the caped crusader. Here's an idea: Daley needs a police superintendent -- how about the dark knight himself?

"Could we talk about this later?" Daley joked to Bale.

"Yes, we'll talk," Bale answered.

The bottom line is that Daley said movies like this are good for Chicago, and filmmaker Chris Nolan said the city gives him a great palate from which to work.

The Batman franchise has spanned nearly 70 years. This time around, shooting in the city will last about 12 weeks. There may be a few closed streets here and there, but the mayor said it will be well worth it.

"We ask everyone to be very, very understanding," Daley said.

http://www.nbc5.com/entertainment/13471477/detail.html

 

[not_a_victim]

Let's put it this way...
1. Either Bale and/or his Doc have refused to use anabolics again to gain mass for this movie.
2. It's possible that all that "oh noes! him gots too big fir teh soot!" stuff from the first movie was legit, and not a publicity stunt.
3. We can expect a drastic costume change, ala "Spider-Man"
or, and the worst of all worlds..
4. Bale may plan on using anabolics to gain 25-30 pounds quick and dirty.
According to IMDB, the last movie Bale worked on was "3:10 to Yuma", basically a cowboy flick. His size there would have been irrelevant, so I can only imagine that his size is here is intententional, or the result of one of the four above.

 

[dark_b]

Let's put it this way...
1. Either Bale and/or his Doc have refused to use anabolics again to gain mass for this movie.
2. It's possible that all that "oh noes! him gots too big fir teh soot!" stuff from the first movie was legit, and not a publicity stunt.
3. We can expect a drastic costume change, ala "Spider-Man"
or, and the worst of all worlds..
4. Bale may plan on using anabolics to gain 25-30 pounds quick and dirty.
According to IMDB, the last movie Bale worked on was "3:10 to Yuma", basically a cowboy flick. His size there would have been irrelevant, so I can only imagine that his size is here is intententional, or the result of one of the four above.

i am counting the seconds before some bale supporter jumps on you because of the anabolic.

supporter:bale is natural ok

 

[Baba Ghanoush]

i am counting the seconds before some bale supporter jumps on you because of the anabolic.

supporter:bale is natural ok

Whether Bale juiced or not is debatable. Any person who lifts weights regularly and has an awareness of physiology, nutrition, and training will tell you that its impossible to gain that much weight of lean muscle mass in that short a time without steroids.

So if he's going to gain 25 lbs of muscle in the next 2 weeks, either Bale has the most amazing genetics the world has ever seen or he's had some kind of pharmaceutical help to get there.

 

[not_a_victim]

As a life-long athelete, and former steriod user, I can tell you that Bale's weight gain (and almost all H'wood body transformations similar to his) are done with the use of either HGH or anabolics. No two ways about it.
I am not being accusatory, as I don't have a problem with the use of chemical assistance at all, most people believe the lies told to you by your 8th grade health teacher that nothing good comes from their use, but that is a different thread for another day...
Remember, anabolics are legal, just not for muscle building.
I always laugh when I hear people talk about how easily a H'Wood doctor will prescribe multiple prescriptions for "stress" to someone like Anna N. Smith, but they absolutely don't think that an actor would go to the same doctor for anabolics. I't laughable, and you have your heads in the sand if you don't think it doesn't happen just about all the time.
Hollywood is chemically driven, whether its alcohol, illegal drugs, legal drugs used illegally, or any combination thereof.
Again, I have NO PROBLEM with Bale or anyone else using chemical assistance to change his body for a role, but if you want to debate it, I'm perfectly willing, as long as it stays a debate, and not name-calling.

 

[Infinity9999x]

As a life-long athelete, and former steriod user, I can tell you that Bale's weight gain (and almost all H'wood body transformations similar to his) are done with the use of either HGH or anabolics. No two ways about it.
I am not being accusatory, as I don't have a problem with the use of chemical assistance at all, most people believe the lies told to you by your 8th grade health teacher that nothing good comes from their use, but that is a different thread for another day...
Remember, anabolics are legal, just not for muscle building.
I always laugh when I hear people talk about how easily a H'Wood doctor will prescribe multiple prescriptions for "stress" to someone like Anna N. Smith, but they absolutely don't think that an actor would go to the same doctor for anabolics. I't laughable, and you have your heads in the sand if you don't think it doesn't happen just about all the time.
Hollywood is chemically driven, whether its alcohol, illegal drugs, legal drugs used illegally, or any combination thereof.
Again, I have NO PROBLEM with Bale or anyone else using chemical assistance to change his body for a role, but if you want to debate it, I'm perfectly willing, as long as it stays a debate, and not name-calling.

I don't care what movie stars do to enhance their build, but as a highschool athlete myself I know that I don't plan on ever taking any kind of chemical enhancements. I won't even take Creatine, even though that's supposed to be alright. I just don't trust anything like that, and I like seeing how I can push my body without any added help.

 

[Baba Ghanoush]

As a life-long athelete, and former steriod user, I can tell you that Bale's weight gain (and almost all H'wood body transformations similar to his) are done with the use of either HGH or anabolics. No two ways about it.
I am not being accusatory, as I don't have a problem with the use of chemical assistance at all, most people believe the lies told to you by your 8th grade health teacher that nothing good comes from their use, but that is a different thread for another day...
Remember, anabolics are legal, just not for muscle building.
I always laugh when I hear people talk about how easily a H'Wood doctor will prescribe multiple prescriptions for "stress" to someone like Anna N. Smith, but they absolutely don't think that an actor would go to the same doctor for anabolics. I't laughable, and you have your heads in the sand if you don't think it doesn't happen just about all the time.
Hollywood is chemically driven, whether its alcohol, illegal drugs, legal drugs used illegally, or any combination thereof.
Again, I have NO PROBLEM with Bale or anyone else using chemical assistance to change his body for a role, but if you want to debate it, I'm perfectly willing, as long as it stays a debate, and not name-calling.

Exactly. Although I never used the stuff myself (I have decent genetics and am an endo-meso bodytype so I never needed roids to gain size) I know that it takes time to build muscle. Its not about lifting 5 hours a day, its about eating right, training consistently and time.

And time is the variable which can be positively influenced by steroids. When you're talking about shooting deadlines, time becomes a major issue and is the biggest reason why actors will juice. People who barely work out or have never worked out at all don't suddenly end up at 200 lbs. with 6% bodyfat in a few months naturally.

I still don't get why its such a taboo topic. Its constantly going on in pro-sports and hollywood. And who cares if someone juices or not, it still takes dedication and discipline to look the way these guys do. Steroids just gets them there faster and in time for shooting and million dollar salaries and exclusive film roles are enough motivation to do it.

 

[Eros]

this discussion is so stupid.

 

[Baba Ghanoush]

this discussion is so stupid.

90% of the discussions on the Hype are that way, but people do it anyway.

 

[donk70]

I don't care what movie stars do to enhance their build, but as a highschool athlete myself I know that I don't plan on ever taking any kind of chemical enhancements. I won't even take Creatine, even though that's supposed to be alright. I just don't trust anything like that, and I like seeing how I can push my body without any added help.

I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night

 

[jsf]

Lol!

 

[regwec]

He looks alright to me. He's hardly skinny, and I have never liked it when Batman is depicted as a roid-freak.

 

[TheMadHatter]

He looks alright to me. He's hardly skinny, and I have never liked it when Batman is depicted with as a roid-freak.

ya thats like in venom when he started takin roids cuz he was gettin old

 

[Infinity9999x]

I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night

I'm not quite sure I understand the quote, but if you're in some way trying to infer that I wouldn't know what I'm talking about in regards to steriods or other suppliments when it comes to weightlifting because I'm in highschool then you'd be wrong. I lift regularly and I've done lots of research on the subject, I'm even considering the option of being a personal trainer when I get older.

 

[regwec]

I'm talking about the comicbooks. I prefer this...

...to this.

 

[Darknightnomis]

I'm talking about the comicbooks. I prefer this...

...to this.

That's kind of an unfair comparison since most of us see the great Neal Adams depiction of Batman as the quintessintial look for Batman as oppose to Jim Lee's rendition (like myself).

Still Jim Lee's version of the Darknight is hardly a 'Roid Freak'.

 

[regwec]

He has unrealistically huge muscles. His shoulder is larger than his head and his thigh is thicker than his waist. It might be possible to attain that shape, but I strongly doubt that Batman would be sprinting, leaping and high kicking if he did. Sometime in the late 80s/early 90s, all attempts at anatomical accuracy were abandoned in favour of fetishistic muscle worship. All superheroines developed even more massive boobs, too.

 

[not_a_victim]

He has unrealistically huge muscles. His shoulder is larger than his head and his thigh is thicker than his waist. It might be possible to attain that shape, but I strongly doubt that Batman would be sprinting, leaping and high kicking if he did. Sometime in the late 80s/early 90s, all attempts at anatomical accuracy were abandoned in favour of fetishistic muscle worship. All superheroines developed even more massive boobs, too.

Exactly. this is one of the reasons we have such feverish discussions of actors bodies when they protray comic characters.
For years now, you can look at any official bio of a character, and it will say something like"
Height: 6'2'
Weight: 225
Strength: John Doe has the strength and endurance of a man his size, weight, and age that performs regular, intense exercise.

ANd the above is all well and good, but when the artist will draw John Doe, they will draw him as if he is a ripped 285 pounds, instead of a lean 225.

And also, the most inportant factor of putting mass on the body is not the actual weight lifting itself. It is important, but you can go push all the lead you want, and if you arent eating what your body needs to produce the muscle recovery, you're wasting your time.
I also like how when I get serious, and offer to debate anyone who thinks that actors dont use anabolics to change their bodies, the "This is stupid" posts start coming out, even though I am on the actor's side about the whole thing. I didn't mean to ruin anyone's idea about their favorite actor, Just trying to tell the truth here.
BTW, Bale is much thinner than in BB. The best way to eyeball body fat on a male his age is simply to look at his face. Bale is sporting some pretty sunken cheeks right now, and though that T-shirt is loose, you can use it to see his trap development, and it aint there.

 

[Baba Ghanoush]

I also like how when I get serious, and offer to debate anyone who thinks that actors dont use anabolics to change their bodies, the "This is stupid" posts start coming out

That's b/c people idealize actors and celebs. Combine this with the prevailing view that steroids are bad and these same people want to be willfully blind to it b/c it tarnishes their idol's image. Oh no Bale could never use steroids, he would never take the easy way out.

How could anyone besides his nutritionist and personal trainer know that definitively?

 

[not_a_victim]

Right, but I am not even accusing anyone of doing it, though I say it's ok to do so. I'm just saying the physical transformations that we see in some of these actors is chemically induced, plain and simple.
Remember DeNiro in "Cape Fear"? what was he, like 50 in that movie? And got ripped as hell? Is there anyone who actully thinks that was not helped along?