Days of Future Past Days of Future Past News and Discussion - Part 2

[Tacit Ronin]

I've never heard anyone ask why movie Batman looks like the Batman we all know, or why movie Spider-Man wears that outfit, or why Iron Man is in that armour.

Perhaps I interpreted your text wrongly but Batman Begins shows, point by point, the "why" of Batman's looks, and the "how" too. Ditto for Iron Man.

 

[X-Maniac]

Perhaps I interpreted your text wrongly but Batman Begins shows, point by point, the "why" of Batman's looks, and the "how" too. Ditto for Iron Man.

You didn't interpet it wrongly, you never read it properly!

I said:

It helps a little that the films usually explain the costume somehow

 

[747]

Since I am a film geek above all, a comic book movie doesn't need to be a slave to the source material for me to like or even love it. For me it's more about respecting the source material than simply mimicking it.

Infact one thing that makes me such a fan of comic book movies is how so much of the material out there has both huge cinematic potential AND is adaptable in so many different ways. That's what makes them so interesting following the production of.

And there should always be room to embrace more than one way of doing something. Some people seem so dead set on one way, that nothing else will due.

Sorry for a bit off topic, but the latest discussion got me thinking about this.

And about the costumes. Explaining or not, faithful or not etc. It all depends on context for me (like with most things, nothing is just simply black and white, good or bad). In the world BB paints it makes total sense to explain the costume. In other worlds it might not be important at all.

 

[SuperT]

Since I am a film geek above all, a comic book movie doesn't need to be a slave to the source material for me to like or even love it. For me it's more about respecting the source material than simply mimicking it.

Infact one thing that makes me such a fan of comic book movies is how so much of the material out there has both huge cinematic potential AND is adaptable in so many different ways. That's what makes them so interesting following the production of.

And there should always be room to embrace more than one way of doing something. Some people seem so dead set on one way, that nothing else will due.

Sorry for a bit off topic, but the latest discussion got me thinking about this.

And about the costumes. Explaining or not, faithful or not etc. It all depends on context for me (like with most things, nothing is just simply black and white, good or bad). In the world BB paints it makes total sense to explain the costume. In other worlds it might not be important at all.

Couldn't have said it better myself! I hate when people complain that a movie wasn't a shot for shot remake of the comic panels. It just irks me because there's absolutely no creativity or good direction in that at all!

I also hate when people qualify a superhero movie with "I hope it's a god comic book movie." Why can't it just be a good movie period?

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I think there's a difference between wanting a panel by panel take on being comic accurate, and just wanting the major stories and plot points, as well as characterizations to be on spot.

that's essentially what the MCU films have been doing. And they've been great.

change for the sake of change isn't always a good thing

 

[Mr. Dent]

It's pretty clear we're getting bulletin points with this rather than a straight up adaptation, so that's a good sign.

 

[X-Maniac]

I think there's a difference between wanting a panel by panel take on being comic accurate, and just wanting the major stories and plot points, as well as characterizations to be on spot.

that's essentially what the MCU films have been doing. And they've been great.

change for the sake of change isn't always a good thing

^^^ That's what is needed. Respecting the source material.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

It's pretty clear we're getting bulletin points with this rather than a straight up adaptation, so that's a good sign.

i don't know... right now we only really know

"there's time travel" and "sentinels" that fit in line with the comic

we don't know which time period it takes place mostly in, if what needs changed is an assassination attempt, who's time traveling to where, etc..

I don't think we have too many bulletin points yet.. and I expect this to be a very loose adaptation like all of the FOX marvel films have been.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

^^^ That's what is needed. Respecting the source material.

yeah, there's some things that just simply shouldn't be changed that shape so much of the future...

it's like... Norman Osborn "needs" to kill Gwen Stacy.... i'd prefer a bridge, but Norman is far more important. If it's Electro and "shock therapy" than....... yeah no that's not the same impact.

I think in general... Origin's just don't exactly stop with the first issue... that's only a chunk of what shapes these comic characters into the people we now know them to be. It's not a "one-off" and suddenly they no longer have to grow.

The X-men Origin with the first class is also only just the tip of the iceberg... it's also the inclusion of the Phoenix Saga, Havok, Rogues twisted history, the family bonds, Giant Sized X-men, etc... that shape these characters.

I think Fox kinda shot themselves in the foot with that aspect. You miss out on alot of integral characterization. Having an actor be given the name of the hero and the abilities... is no where near enough.

 

[def28]

I think there's a difference between wanting a panel by panel take on being comic accurate, and just wanting the major stories and plot points, as well as characterizations to be on spot.

that's essentially what the MCU films have been doing. And they've been great.

change for the sake of change isn't always a good thing

Agreed.

 

[NanaT]

Has anyone been looking at the imdb boards because I've found some interesting stuff. Please note that there are potential spoilers for both DoFp and The Wolverine.

Basically this imdb poster says that he/she has a contact with the movie. Take everything with a grain of salt.

A friend of mine who is a hair stylist, although not up there, knows someone who is and did Famke's hair in The Wolverine. She is returning as[BLACKOUT] White Phoenix of the Crown.[/BLACKOUT] She also has her booked for DOFP along with Anna and Halle. I asked her if she knew about James Marsden, but that they have only let her read parts of Famke's, Anna's, and Halle's role to get an idea of what hair styles she needs, so she has no idea if he is in the film. [BLACKOUT]Storm may get the Mohawk, but it's in competition with another look; I didn't ask her what the other look is though[/BLACKOUT] According to her scene in The Wolverine it is a set up for Wolverine in DOFP. Although, she says that at first she thinks it was set up for a third Wolverine movie, but that it works fine as a lead in to DOFP as well. Basically,[BLACKOUT] Wolverine does become mortal and fights till his death against Silver Samurai. Once dead Jean comes back in full fire bird form as White Phoenix of the Crown and kills Silver Samurai and brings back Wolverine. Wolverine is in shock and begins to caress her face (shown in the trailer) because he cannot believe he is seeing her again. She tells him he has some unfinished business. That unfinished business is obviously a tie in for DOFP, but at the same time it could have been a reference for a third Wolverine film[/BLACKOUT] I tried asking about the role of Jean in DOFP, but she did not say nothing (I found this fishy). She did give vague responses on Storm and Rogue. Saying that[BLACKOUT] Storm is still the leader of the X-men and they're trying to look for a fierce look (mohawk or other contender) and that Rogue will have her abilities as that in the comic thanks to the cure messing up with her mutant genes/powers
[/BLACKOUT]

http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt1877832/board/flat/212603810

I don't know what to make of it. Could be true could be a bunch of lies but we'll probably find out this July. If what it says about the ending of wolverine comes to fruition then it adds weight to the other things said if it isn't true then it debunks this entirely.

 

[Hawkingbird]

I always take those things as a load of bull pop.

 

[NanaT]

^Yep It probably is but I hope to God that at least some of it is true.

 

[GuestStar2004]

some have said why wouldn't wolverine be the one to defeat Silver Samurai and i have to agree that would be odd

 

[psyonic]

It could be true.. they need a way to connect The Wolverine to DoFP. I guess we'll know in a few months..

 

[Double B]

They aren't getting all mythological 'White Phoenix of the Crown' in The Wolverine. For one, it overpowers Jean way too much, and two, it doesn't fit how they, shamefully, established Phoenix in X3.

And The Wolverine is Jackman's film. They'd not have such a dues ex machina ending. It's robbing Wolverine of the climax of his own film.

 

[ctsketch]

ehhhh most of that sounds like BS

 

[J.Howlett]

Gotta love X-Men movie universe continuity. It's all over the place. I am curious to see how Bryan Singer rectifies everything to that the future X-Men films can move forward smoothly.

 

[The Infernal]

Yeah, time to take the cold, sober reality pills people. It's April Fools and that is clearly one load of bs.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

They aren't getting all mythological 'White Phoenix of the Crown' in The Wolverine. For one, it overpowers Jean way too much, and two, it doesn't fit how they, shamefully, established Phoenix in X3.

And The Wolverine is Jackman's film. They'd not have such a dues ex machina ending. It's robbing Wolverine of the climax of his own film.

i don't think WCP is any more out of the realm of possibility than Xavier transferring his conscious mind into another body. Instead of WCP i'd just say her mental existence still exists on an astral plane.

 

[Compi716]

Has anyone been looking at the imdb boards because I've found some interesting stuff. Please note that there are potential spoilers for both DoFp and The Wolverine.

Basically this imdb poster says that he/she has a contact with the movie. Take everything with a grain of salt.

A friend of mine who is a hair stylist, although not up there, knows someone who is and did Famke's hair in The Wolverine. She is returning as[BLACKOUT] White Phoenix of the Crown.[/BLACKOUT] She also has her booked for DOFP along with Anna and Halle. I asked her if she knew about James Marsden, but that they have only let her read parts of Famke's, Anna's, and Halle's role to get an idea of what hair styles she needs, so she has no idea if he is in the film. [BLACKOUT]Storm may get the Mohawk, but it's in competition with another look; I didn't ask her what the other look is though[/BLACKOUT] According to her scene in The Wolverine it is a set up for Wolverine in DOFP. Although, she says that at first she thinks it was set up for a third Wolverine movie, but that it works fine as a lead in to DOFP as well. Basically,[BLACKOUT] Wolverine does become mortal and fights till his death against Silver Samurai. Once dead Jean comes back in full fire bird form as White Phoenix of the Crown and kills Silver Samurai and brings back Wolverine. Wolverine is in shock and begins to caress her face (shown in the trailer) because he cannot believe he is seeing her again. She tells him he has some unfinished business. That unfinished business is obviously a tie in for DOFP, but at the same time it could have been a reference for a third Wolverine film[/BLACKOUT] I tried asking about the role of Jean in DOFP, but she did not say nothing (I found this fishy). She did give vague responses on Storm and Rogue. Saying that[BLACKOUT] Storm is still the leader of the X-men and they're trying to look for a fierce look (mohawk or other contender) and that Rogue will have her abilities as that in the comic thanks to the cure messing up with her mutant genes/powers
[/BLACKOUT]

http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt1877832/board/flat/212603810

I don't know what to make of it. Could be true could be a bunch of lies but we'll probably find out this July. If what it says about the ending of wolverine comes to fruition then it adds weight to the other things said if it isn't true then it debunks this entirely.

I sort of hope none of the stuff about Jean Grey in The Wolverine is true.

 

[Hawkingbird]

It's bs

 

[Figs]

Has anyone been looking at the imdb boards because I've found some interesting stuff. Please note that there are potential spoilers for both DoFp and The Wolverine.

Basically this imdb poster says that he/she has a contact with the movie. Take everything with a grain of salt.

A friend of mine who is a hair stylist, although not up there, knows someone who is and did Famke's hair in The Wolverine. She is returning as[BLACKOUT] White Phoenix of the Crown.[/BLACKOUT] She also has her booked for DOFP along with Anna and Halle. I asked her if she knew about James Marsden, but that they have only let her read parts of Famke's, Anna's, and Halle's role to get an idea of what hair styles she needs, so she has no idea if he is in the film. [BLACKOUT]Storm may get the Mohawk, but it's in competition with another look; I didn't ask her what the other look is though[/BLACKOUT] According to her scene in The Wolverine it is a set up for Wolverine in DOFP. Although, she says that at first she thinks it was set up for a third Wolverine movie, but that it works fine as a lead in to DOFP as well. Basically,[BLACKOUT] Wolverine does become mortal and fights till his death against Silver Samurai. Once dead Jean comes back in full fire bird form as White Phoenix of the Crown and kills Silver Samurai and brings back Wolverine. Wolverine is in shock and begins to caress her face (shown in the trailer) because he cannot believe he is seeing her again. She tells him he has some unfinished business. That unfinished business is obviously a tie in for DOFP, but at the same time it could have been a reference for a third Wolverine film[/BLACKOUT] I tried asking about the role of Jean in DOFP, but she did not say nothing (I found this fishy). She did give vague responses on Storm and Rogue. Saying that[BLACKOUT] Storm is still the leader of the X-men and they're trying to look for a fierce look (mohawk or other contender) and that Rogue will have her abilities as that in the comic thanks to the cure messing up with her mutant genes/powers
[/BLACKOUT]

http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt1877832/board/flat/212603810

I don't know what to make of it. Could be true could be a bunch of lies but we'll probably find out this July. If what it says about the ending of wolverine comes to fruition then it adds weight to the other things said if it isn't true then it debunks this entirely.

Thankfully that's from a poster on IMDB...which means it's fake, because some of that sounds terrible.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

id love to believe it, but.... you can't believe anything today unfortunately.

 

[Primal Slayer]

But it's the internet. You can trust everyone and everything. Says so in a commercial.