Days of Future Past Days of Future Past News and Discussion - Part 33

[Levsky]

Then why come to section and board of films you hate to bash them

Another"MS Is so great and everyone else sucks" posting

Can't we avoid the X-Men board becoming the FF board.

Gosh, man, I don't hate these movies but it doesn't mean I can't criticize them. I see their flaws and I'm sure that some of their characters could be used better, that's all.

Just for you to take in mind: I didn't say anything about the way both studios handle character development.
But when you come here calling X-Men characters crappy or whatever you were saying and making it look like MS characters are the best thing since the creation of the Internet, that's the kind of response you'll get.

I didn't say that but I see you guys there like to manipulate one's words and create your own version of his beliefs. I just compared most of Fox characters to these of Marvel Studios. Sorry, didn't know it's forbbiden to criticize X-Men in X-Men board.

 

[Rike]

I didn't say that but I see you guys there like to manipulate one's words and create your own version of his beliefs. I just compared most of Fox characters to these of Marvel Studios. Sorry, didn't know it's forbbiden to criticize X-Men in X-Men board.

It's not about her appearance, you know. It's not about appearance of all of them. I just don't give a sh** about majority of Fox's characters because they seem to be so wasted, boring and undeveloped that there is even no comparison to Marvel Studios' heroes who are always great, colourful, full of life and each have his own personality.

And speaking of twisting words, when did I say it's forbidden to criticize here?

 

[Malik]

Anyway the trailer is coming !

 

[EnDz0n3]

Ok who's that guy^^ I demand you to name names!

No, it's my opinion, because I can't recall any memorable interaction sequences or dialogue scenes from any of X-Men movies (except "First Class") while "Avengers" has plenty of them. Not my fault most of mutants in that movies are just... flat.

You said earlier it was a fact. Which one is it Levsky?

Norton has a history of being a problem child on the set and trying to re-write things all the time. He is talented, but people are only going to stand for so much of that before you have to go.

Howard has a domestic violence history so I can't care about him even though he has a few good performance.

What is the Weaving story?

He doesn't want to come back as Red Skull, even though he was contractually obligated to. Same as Natalie Portman if I recall correctly. Sir Anthony Hopkins too I think.

 

[Melapi]

I didn't say that but I see you guys there like to manipulate one's words and create your own version of his beliefs. I just compared most of Fox characters to these of Marvel Studios. Sorry, didn't know it's forbbiden to criticize X-Men in X-Men board.

Talking about manipulating words... nobody is forbiding you to criticize X-men in this forum, but don't expect people are going to like it. Especially when you are basically calling crap a whole trilogy.

 

[Levsky]

So, according to you when I was writing about Marvel Studios' characters being colourful and great I was also implying that "they're the best thing since the creation of Internet"? That's definitely an exaggeration - my point was to show how I feel irritated about wasting brilliant mutants like Iceman or Rogue for example, who in comics have their own unique personality while in these movies they're simply... meh.

 

[def28]

I can't deny that they're great characters in that movies but we have so much more wasted and undeveloped mutants, some of them even killed off before they could really shine and show something worth-seeing (Scott, Jean, Juggernaut, Psylocke, Azazel, Riptide, Storm, Rogue, Iceman, Colossus, Kitty etc.) that you can't deny this fact as well.

I agree with this, and it's one of the biggest problems the franchise has to figure out. 14 years in and there really isn't much to show with many popular characters. Good news is it looks like they are trying now and the past 2 X-films have been excellent. X-Men just has too many characters, theres no way everyone will get there time to shine equally. Hopefully with Apocaylpse we will get some solid development with Scott and Storm. And then characters like Psylocke, Cable and Deadpool will get their time with X-Force so they can be developed without being mute supporting roles in the main films.

 

[SuperT]

Exactly. The only way they're are going to be able to give all these characters their due is through spin-offs.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Actors can be brillent but hard to work with. Edward Norton Is a great actorbut difficult to work with. His problem with MS came over them cutting the
character stuff from the Incredible Hulk. And reportly there are even more deleted scenes than on the DVD Including more of the new origin.

Mickey Rourke,while granted can be difficult while he's a fine actor,has had choice words about Marvel Studios. Hugo Weaving and Terrence Howard too.
Remember Michael Bay was apparently easier to work with for Weaving than Kevin Feige. I lost any goodwill towards Feige back In 2010 with his comments about Norton.

The only reason natalie portman Is In sequels to thor Is because of her contract. Robert Downey JR Is fine actor but I find the smart alecky every minute tony Stark getting old.

They were able to get X-Men cast back for last stand after most contracts expired for X2. Granted some are probally like Famke Janssen about final film. and were able to get many back for DOFP In a short time. Reports also say Bryan Singer directing again was factor In getting many of OT back.

halle berry who has been made the whiping poster for media has twice returned when she didn't have to. And she has helped end those rumors she and Bryan Singer didn't like each other. Alan Cumming has gone on record he would have liked to return for the reunion of DOFP but wasn't asked. That's hardly someone who doesn't want anything to do with X-Men again as some have tried to paint him as.

Let's see how many MS actors renew their contracts after avengers 3. Except for Downey who signed up for 2 sequels to Avengers that hasn't happened yet. There have been rumors other MS actors don't like Downey getting paid so much and they get so little. Shane Black reportly was given so much control over Iron Man 3 to make Downey happy after his displeasures with 2. Jon favreau bolted as director of Ms films after 2 reportly over not liking Iron Man 2 turned into avengers commercial. Downey was likely why he returned as a actor for Iron Man 3.

Hugh jackman has been coming back on a film by film basic since Last Stand. That's a true commitment to character. Including cameo In FC he has done 7 films over 14 years. Meanwhile by time Avengers 3 comes In 2018 Downey would have done 7 films In 10 years including hulk cameo. Hugh and Downey are star of respective franchises. Yeah MS does films without Stark but you don't have X-Men related films coming out every year and often 2 a year. Wolverine In Comics Is only one who has reportly been able to sustain a solo
book In addation to all the team books he Is In.

The better film equilvent to X-Men Isn't Avengers but Justice league with the Superman/Batman film Introducing new batman+Wonder woman and possibly other DC heroes If you can believe rumors that will reportly lead to justice league film. Batman could end up as the wolverine equilvent In that.

 

[TeeKay]

LOL Levsky were you expecting to call out the faults in the X-men franchise of underdeveloping and wasting X-Men characters expecting to walk away from it unscathed? To make matters even worse, you brought Marvel Studios into the discussion which is a very very bad move. That's opening a can of worms right there BTW I agree with you even though I prefer X-2 and FC over anything the MCU has done. Just be careful.

@marvelrobbins Wolverine In COmics Is only one who has reportly been able to sustain a solo

Ummm deadpool?

 

[SuperT]

Ummm deadpool?

You can add Gambit, Cable, and Mystique as well - they've all had long running solo comics as well.

Wolverine isn't the only one that can carry his own solo run.

 

[Angamb]

and what does it matter the sales?

his movies hasnt even reach 500 millions, being that popular and beloved by "the whole world"

It doenst matter his sales, what matter is the boxoffice, and his latest movie is the lowest of the whole franchise, and he is Hugh Jackman, that to me speaks volumes.

Some fans keep naming FC, but that was the first movie of a new cast. The Wolverine is Hugh 5 movie, totally different cases. And I know the foreign numbers, but thats a normal progression. USA case is just the real issue here.

 

[Malik]

Ok who's that guy^^ I demand you to name names!

Parker young, from Suburgatory

 

[TeeKay]

You can add Gambit, Cable, and Mystique as well - they've all had long running solo comics as well.

Wolverine isn't the only one that can carry his own solo run.

Then why was he saying it's only Wolverine that can sustain a solo run? That's nonsense. Fox hasn't really tried outside Wolverine, we're still waiting on that Deadpool spin off. It gets tiring when he's the only one getting solo flicks as well as being the star in the X-Men films as well. I wanna see other mutants too. I liked The Wolverine but I'm really not looking forward to another Wolverine movie if I'm being honest. What's the word on that X-Force film?

 

[danagirl42]

Ok who's that guy^^ I demand you to name names!



You said earlier it was a fact. Which one is it Levsky?



He doesn't want to come back as Red Skull, even though he was contractually obligated to. Same as Natalie Portman if I recall correctly. Sir Anthony Hopkins too I think.

You can throw Idris Elba in there too. I can see why, though. They either had nothing roles (Elba) or poorly written (Weaving and Hopkins). Still, if you signed a contract, you need to fulfill it if they still want you. Other people would kill to have those roles. However, I will give an exception to Portman because there is zero chemistry between her character and Thor and she can't bring it and convince anyone with a brain they are in love or whatever that is suppose to be. Not that Hemsworth is a charisma bomb or master thespian himself, but she is expendable. Recast or get rid of the character.

 

[marvelrobbins]

LOL Levsky were you expecting to call out the faults in the X-men franchise of underdeveloping and wasting X-Men characters expecting to walk away from it unscathed? To make matters even worse, you brought Marvel Studios into the discussion which is a very very bad move. That's opening a can of worms right there BTW I agree with you even though I prefer X-2 and FC over anything the MCU has done. Just be careful.



Ummm deadpool?

untill Ucanny X-Force Deadpool was mostly In his own book and guest shots In X-force and Wolverine.

 

[def28]

What's the word on that X-Force film?

Wadlow still attached, otherwise nothing new.

Probably waiting for DOFP returns.

 

[TeeKay]

untill Ucanny X-Force Deadpool was mostly In his own book and guest shots In X-force and Wolverine.

Doesn't matter, he was still able to sustain his own comic run. I was just trying to say that Wolverine isn't the only one who can sustain a solo comic run.

Wadlow still attached, otherwise nothing new.

Probably waiting for DOFP returns.

Thanks.

 

[JEM]

I was really excited about an idea of bringing together all members of new and old cast but now, as it looks like another Wolverine-focused movie, I'm worried about how they're gonna screw this. Okay, I'm fine with Logan being a main character, especially since I'm used to that and Hugh makes a solid job, but too much mutants are being revealed to just have a cameo or some other minor role as a background of the story which will mostly involve Wolverine. I was expecting a great, spectacular movie, featuring loads of old and new mutants so it will look truly impressive. Judging from all this new information, I can see that on the past timeline we have only few important characters since Quicksilver, Toad or Havoc are confirmed by filmmakers to have a small roles. At the same time, our future cast looks even more poorly - Rogue and Storm are nearly cut out, not speaking about other characters and how they're gonna be dismissed as well.

How many time we have to say Charles is the main character ?
Judging from all this new information, Wolverine is the bridge between the two timeline but the movie is a first class sequel .
Drew McWeeny read the first script and says the big 3 are Charles, Eric and Raven. In the future, the main characters are Xavier, Magneto, Kitty (maybe Bishop). I suppose the others mutants are here for the actions scene .

 

[Rike]

Wolverine isn't the only one that can carry his own solo run.

No, but he's the only one that can carry 4 solo titles...at the same time.

 

[def28]

No, but he's the only one that can carry 4 solo titles...at the same time.

...Deadpool has done that as well. t:

 

[lastairbender]

Ok... I think the ideal thing to do would be...

2014 XMEN DOFP

2015 XFORCE

2016 XMEN APOC

2017 WOLVERINE 3

2018 XMEN APOC Sequel

Even if i love Hugh Jackman, he shouldnt return in Apocalypse and be back in WOL3 fresh and new...
Next year i will miss an XMEN movie... long wait to 2016

 

[TeeKay]

No, but he's the only one that can carry 4 solo titles...at the same time.

So what? Deadpool has done it as well, I don't see what your point is here.

EDIT: Somebody has already pointed it out.

 

[GuestStar2004]

There will be no X-force In 2015, the film still seems to be on the shelf waiting for FOX to give it the go ahead

 

[def28]

EDIT: Somebody has already pointed it out.

Haha Yeah, Deadpool even currently has more solo books going on then Wolverine.