DC's Illuminati

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  1. Nightwing 52 Things change

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    If DC had a team like Marvel's where some of the biggest heroes from different groups were to gather into one, who should it consist of?
     
  2. The Question Objectivism doesn't work.

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    Batman
    Martian Manhunter
    Jason Blood
    The Atom
    Aquaman
    Nnamdi
    Wonder Woman
     
  3. Nightwing 52 Things change

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    Nice list, here's mine.

    Batman (JLA, funding)
    Aquaman (Atlantis)
    Hawkman (Thanagar)
    Mr. Terrific (JSA, Checkmate)
    The Atom (Brains)
    Martian Manhunter (Able to connect to everyone)
    Dr. Fate or Jason Blood (Magic and sorcery department)
    Oracle (Information broker)
     
  4. TheCorpulent1 SHAZAM!

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    DC wouldn't have a team like that because DC doesn't have this strange drive to make many of their once-noble characters into duplicitous jerks.
     
  5. GoldenAgeHero Registered

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    bingo! thats why the whole civil war concept is just stupid to me.
     
  6. Dr. Mid-Nite Registered

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    Both Question's and Batman's teams are great, they include alot of the heavy hitters in the DCU, here's mine.

    Mr. Terrific
    Martian Manhunter
    Adam Strange
    Dr. Fate
    Aquaman
    Black Adam
    Hal Jordan
    Captain Comet

    And of course, Dr. Mid-Nite as the teams expert surgeon. :)
     
  7. The Question Objectivism doesn't work.

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    Well, Namor, Black Bolt, and occasionally Xaivier have been known to be jerks in the past.
     
  8. GoldenAgeHero Registered

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    how the hell is black bolt even in the group anyways? they haven't explained why he's there have they? what possible reason can he have to be in that group?
     
  9. Dr. Mid-Nite Registered

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    Cause he represents for the Inhumans?


    -Doc
     
  10. TheCorpulent1 SHAZAM!

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    Tony, Namor, and, after the Mystique series, Xavier I could understand. When has Black Bolt ever been a jerk, though? When has Strange ever deigned to coordinate with others? If he needs you, he'll summon you and mystically bind your ass to him so you'll get projectile diarrhea if you don't do what he wants. When has Reed ever done anything like what the Illuminati have him doing these days? When's the last time he kept a major secret from the rest of the FF (not counting "Authoritative Action" since that had very specific circumstances that the Illuminati's existence does not). It never bodes well for a group when you have to mischaracterize about half of them to get them to the table.
     
  11. The Question Objectivism doesn't work.

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    Black Bolt has always struck me as very set in his ways in terms of tradition and protecting Atillan. This has led to some jerk-like tendancies. With Reed, it seems that he came into the group with the best intentions, and things have simply slowly spyraled into a very dark place.
     
  12. Dwarf lord Spirit in the Night

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    If anyone would be DC's Illuminati, it would be:
    Superman
    Batman
    Wonder Woman
    The Flash
    Martain Manhunter
    Green Lantern
    Aquaman

    Yes, DC's Illuminati is the big 7.
     
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  14. Nightwing 52 Things change

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    Like I said in the beginning of this thread, if. I know it's likely to happen, I was just curious as to who people think should join the team if ever one was formed.
     
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    Heh, that's pretty true. DC already has something like the Illuminati, it's called "The League Within the League." :o
     
  16. gildea Registered

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    Nonsense.

    They've done it with batman REPEATEDLY.

    leslie tomkins also.

    The whole identity crisis thing really 'dirtied' some characters.

    And superboy prime is hardly as nice as he once was.
     
  17. GoldenAgeHero Registered

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    but theres a difference. what marvel has is dumb story telling. which barely makes sense. identity crisis was executed alot better and the explanation was actually sound. the illumnati is doing was actually out selfishness and dilusio and really out of character.
     
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    I agree about Leslie, and SuperboyPrime and whatnot are from different dimensions, so whatever...

    but Identity Crisis was very sound. The thing about that was everyone has a different personality and had their own reasons for doing what they did. They weren't out of character...
     
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    in your opinion.

    Why does it barely make sense? All the illuminati was was an exchange of information, are you arguing heroes talking to each other is nonsensical?

    I really don't think that a lot of batmans behaviour in war games (and in some other arcs) counts as "making sense".

    I don't think anyone in their right mind can justify what was done with leslie.

    and janette loring KILLING her friend to get back together with her husband? (oh yeah she wasn't trying to kill her just attack her..) (i should point out i enjoyed id.c)

    DC has dirtied up their characters just as much and arguably more so if you want to catalogue batmans list of insanity (given that he is a much bigger name than anyone in the illuminati)

    Of course it's all opinion.
     
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    I'm not claiming to know much about janette loring but where was she first shown as clinically insane other than id.c

    And doctor light was retaconned into a rapist.

    I should point out that I'm not actually saying this is bad writing at all only that DC is willing to dirty up it's characters.

    and i didn't see anyone act out of character in illuminati either
     
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    the only "out of character" thing you've mentioned is Leslie Thompkins... and as far as I know, no DC fans are happy that they did that with the character.

    besides that, there's certainly nothing on the level of Reed Richards in the Illuminati.
     
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    what they retconned was an explanation for why Doctor Light went from serious threat in the DCU to a goofy Teen Titans villain that was easily beat by these kids everytime.
     
  23. hippie_hunter The King is Back!

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    No the goals of an Illuminati organization is to secretly control the aspects of certain functions of life

    Batman's mindwipe is a big explaination for Batman's behavior as a paranoid *****ebag

    True, but at least it was written well.

    It's Jean Lorring and she's had a history of mental problems. Thus thinking up with that idea is understandable.

    But DC has dirtied up thier characters with good storytelling. They did so to protect their loved ones, not themselves and what they stand for.
     
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    superboy prime was always a mad killer was he?

    batman's been written as an insane d**k for a while now something DC have even admitted too.

    and the janette loring thing is a far bigger character shift than reed richards trying to give the hulk somethig he's always wanted (to be left alone).
     
  25. hippie_hunter The King is Back!

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    Exactly, DC is taking the time with their villains by either making the lame ones cool (like Dr. Light and Catman) or killing them off (like the KGBeast and the Ventriloquist). It totally kicks ass.
     

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