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[TheCorpulent1]

The Phantom Stranger can't be Judas, Judas is already Dracula from Dracula 2000. Duh.

 

[trustyside-kick]

I gotta re-read the issue. I didn't dislike it but I think DiDio wrote it too much with a Bronze Age style. I liked the Bronze Age as it was actually a good time for DC Comics...but it didn't fit completely.

 

[Cain]

Due to execution Anton Arcane killing a baby is probably the craziest thing I've seen in a comic in a while.

 

[Anubis]

But see that is fine. Especially because he isn't heroic (say for Demon Knights) but bottom line is, Judas did THE DEED. I don't have to elaborate.

He did what he was supposed to do. Then he hung himself due to the guilt.

Course if you've read the book of Judas, he was murdered by the other apostles and he did what Jesus asked him to do.

 

[Cain]

Phantom Stranger sucked. The 30 silver coins thing made me laugh. It's just ugh. Didio man without a filter your writing his horrid. The dialogue was pretty crap and took me out of the book too much. A once interesting character even if he was a plot device reduced to a brooding self loathing guy is just boring. Say what you want to say about the man but Alan Moore's idea of him being a fallen angel was better than this.

 

[Anubis]

I liked where he was an angel who rather than pick a side during the big rebellion, chose to sit it out, and then was barred from paradise forever.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

That's a pretty cool origin. When was that official? I don't remember reading that.

 

[Cain]

That's a pretty cool origin. When was that official? I don't remember reading that.

Shortly after the beginning of the post-crisis continuity; Alan Moore wrote it.

 

[CConn]

I'd like The Phantom Stranger to be Shelly Long.

Just so we can all go "oh, so that's where she went!"

The end. Write it, Gaiman.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Shortly after the beginning of the post-crisis continuity; Alan Moore wrote it.

No way, a concept by Alan Moore sounds better than one by Dan DiDio? I am shocked.

 

[Mystirious]

The Phantom Stranger can't be Judas, Judas is already Dracula from Dracula 2000. Duh.

Phantom Stranger is a vampire

He's going to be causing all sorts of trouble...running theme bars...sleeping with Ana Paquin...other vampire things

 

[Mystirious]

Crazy giraffe gods and a lovable family sum up why I loved Lemire's early Animal Man. I'll keep reading so long as he remembers this.

Crazy giraffe gods and Socks the talking cat make me want to read it

I want Galenthias the wonder kitteh to be in this book. Then she and Socks can team up for cat-tastic adventures

 

[redhawk23]

Swamp Thing 0 was actually pretty good this month and a good introduction to the character. One wonders why it comes out now a year after the reboot? Seriously, for any new reader, Swamp Thing number 1 was a pretty terrible story arc.

 

[Mystirious]

I can't decide whether to bother with Rotworld or just wait for the trade

Grodd is going to be showing up in the Animal Man issues so I might get those

Grodd and his combat spoon ftw

 

[redhawk23]

Demon Knights 0 was a perfectly solid issue, except that it really served no purpose. We got some nice background for both Jason and Etrigan but really this issue was an un-needed stall in the middle of a cliff hanger.

 

[sethypants]

I love the whole take on Phantom Stranger as Judas. I love to see some biblical elements in the bible.

 

[El Bastardo]

Demon Knights 0 was a perfectly solid issue, except that it really served no purpose. We got some nice background for both Jason and Etrigan but really this issue was an un-needed stall in the middle of a cliff hanger.

Most of the zero issues have served no purpose. This is, surprisingly, one of the better ones - but it should have come earlier in the series. If this had been the first issue, or a second issue, it would have worked much better, and the series would be stronger for it.

As far as being a stall goes, sure, it is. But Cornell's no stranger to stalls on this series, either. The Shining Knight issue - 3 or 4 - was a stalling issue, for whatever reason. Heck, most of the first arc was a stall, because there's very little reason for seven issues to be needed to tell the story of a siege that happens across a day or two tops, unless there's some super-dense characterization (which there wasn't).

 

[Mystirious]

Demon Knights 0 was a perfectly solid issue, except that it really served no purpose. We got some nice background for both Jason and Etrigan but really this issue was an un-needed stall in the middle of a cliff hanger.

Yeah it would have been better if it didn't come in the middle of a story arc but I guess Cornell didn't really have any choice with this whole zero issue month thing

I really dug the backstory for Jason and Etrigan though

 

[redhawk23]

Demon knights definitely has had some frustrating stall periods in the past, but I guess thats why I dislike the whole zero month concept. Several series that I read that have all struggled with pacing in the past, like demon knights and JLD had finally picked up some momentum. But yes, it was great seeing some of Etrigans past in hell.

Also, Yanick Paquette put the cover to Swamp Thing 15 on his deviant art.

The last time Swamp Thing went to Gotham it resulted in one of my favorite issues of any series, basically ever (a Copy of which I came across and bought for 2 bucks this past summer!)

 

[El Bastardo]

Sweet.

A good example of a zero issue done right for a series moving forward would be Milligan's Stormwatch #0. More writers should have had this idea.

 

[Mystirious]

But to be fair Milligan had the advantage of his zero issue not coming in the middle of a story arc

So there wasn't the same feeling of it interrupting a story that there was with some of the others

 

[redhawk23]

So I'm down for Rotworld finally starting after all of this time. And I've always wanted to see Swamp Thing meet Poison Ivy. Also it will be nice to see Yanick Paquette do a full issue's worth of art again. I really dislike Marco Rudy. If they need a fill in artist they should totally hire the guy that did Swamp Thing 0, that looked pretty good.

 

[El Bastardo]

But to be fair Milligan had the advantage of his zero issue not coming in the middle of a story arc

So there wasn't the same feeling of it interrupting a story that there was with some of the others

It's not like DC threw this at the writers three days before August ended and yelled "SURPRISE! Zero month, *****es!"

If the writers didn't want to have to contend with this month falling in the middle of a story arc, they should have altered some things and closed off their arcs to handle it.

Better yet, they should have worked the zero issue into whatever they were in the middle of telling.

These people are professional writers. Don't pretend they couldn't have made better judgments than they chose to. That diminishes Milligan's choice to actually do a good job with Stormwatch #0, followed by ****ing it up over in Red Lanterns.

 

[redhawk23]

^ Or they could not have to rush the stories they're telling to fulfill an editorial mandate.

The whole 0 month thing is stupid whether it cuts into a story line or not. If the writers want to tell the origins, if the series will benefit from it, then let them do so. Forcing them to it is stupid.

The folks working on Demon Knights even chose to highllight how in the way the zero month was, even though demon knights 0 was pretty good. They ended the issue with "oh yeah about that cliff hanger"

 

[Keyser Soze]

I loved the first chapters of Rotworld in Swamp Thing and Animal Man, a return to form for both titles.