Sequels Deadpool Spin-off Confirmed

[Squidboy]

Well...it kinda is. EVERY SINGLE DC/MARVEL SUPERHERO movie to date, sans Blade, Kick-Ass, and the Punisher has been marketed to kids.

Seriously....Batman Begins, TDK, Iron Man, Wolverine, Spider-Man...you name it, it was marketed to kids.

However, NONE of those characters were that violent. Sans Wolverine...which is why Wolverine blew so much. But I digress.

Deadpool is a VIOLENT character.

Why are you arguing this? Deadpool is NOT a PG-13 character. Period. He's not. He kills people....sometimes without reason. He curses, he drinks, he's deformed....nothing about that character can be marketed to kids. He cant do ANY crazy crap. Yes, Tony Stark did get drunk...but we dont really "see" him get drunk.

He just is drunk. Kids can accept the comedy of intoxication...but watching a superhero down shots like no other wouldnt work. BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO MARKET TO THE KIDDIES! :hehe

And if they recast, then **** this **** all to hell. **** that movie all to hell. It'll be worthless.

Were we watching the same Dark Knight? Granted, it wasn't gory, but that movie was still very effing violent.

 

[SpiderByte]

Indeed. The interrogation scene was not kid-friendly.

There is a difference between 'appealing to a wider audience' and 'kiddy'.

 

[Karelia]

Wait... people think Batman Begins... and The Dark Knight was targeted for kids? I'm sorry but that's just stupid. I don't remember their being kids meals toys for either movies. I think both films were targeted to be awesome, though.

If Ryan Reynolds doesn't get to play Deadpool, then I'm unsure about this film. He's been the one pushing it for god knows how long know. I'm sure they could get someone else to play him and do good, but I just think RR was born to play Deadpool...

FOX is going to want to make money, PG-13 is the safe route to take to make more money than R. Most R-Rated Comic Book movies, as good as they may be, didn't make a whole lot of money, or not the money the companies were expecting to make.

If they make it R, more power to FOX for being sure that this movie will do well regardless of the rating. But I'd understand if it was PG-13.

Has anyone here read old Deadpool comics??? Because they are not gory/violent and he hardly cussed in them. Even in the Deadpool & Cable issues. The rating on the back is T+ guys....

 

[SpiderByte]

Also, I'd like to point out Rodriguez hasn't actually accepted to direct it yet.

 

[CelticPredator]

Wait... people think Batman Begins... and The Dark Knight was targeted for kids? I'm sorry but that's just stupid. I don't remember their being kids meals toys for either movies. I think both films were targeted to be awesome, though.

If Ryan Reynolds doesn't get to play Deadpool, then I'm unsure about this film. He's been the one pushing it for god knows how long know. I'm sure they could get someone else to play him and do good, but I just think RR was born to play Deadpool...

FOX is going to want to make money, PG-13 is the safe route to take to make more money than R. Most R-Rated Comic Book movies, as good as they may be, didn't make a whole lot of money, or not the money the companies were expecting to make.

If they make it R, more power to FOX for being sure that this movie will do well regardless of the rating. But I'd understand if it was PG-13.

Has anyone here read old Deadpool comics??? Because they are not gory/violent and he hardly cussed in them. Even in the Deadpool & Cable issues. The rating on the back is T+ guys....

Uh...first off, I said MARKETED. Not targeted. Which is truth.

Second of all, ALL Deadpool comics were violent and had a ton of language....only thing was, they censored it. They censored violent scenes, and harsher langauge. Even in Cable and Deadpool.

Comic books are different then movies. So you cant quite compare them. What is OK in the comic world might not be OK in the movie world.

 

[CelticPredator]

Indeed. The interrogation scene was not kid-friendly.

There is a difference between 'appealing to a wider audience' and 'kiddy'.

Nope. But the movie was still marketed to kids. Toys, ceral boxes, ect....just like every other PG-13 hero flick. Subject matter be damned.

And the interrogation scene was intense, but hardly violent. It created an impact on you....but that's not the same as "pushing the PG-13 rating".

 

[SpiderByte]

What is OK in the comic world might not be OK in the movie world.

That is kind of the point.

Fox wants to make money, so they need to target a wider audience than just fans and people who like super-violent movies. It is called marketing. However, they can't have the kind of violence in Deadpool and still attract a wider audience. It is much smarter to attract new fans than just repeatedly bringing in the old ones.

Fox is doing this to make more money.

You act as though they said Deadpool wouldn't be violent. He'll still be violent, just not AS violent as he should be.

Hm....no super-violence, or swearing there. But it's still one of Deadpool's greatest moments.

Deadpool CAN work as a PG-13 character. It would be much better if he were an R-Rated character, but he can work. Was he designed as a PG-13 character? No. But could he work as one? Yes.

 

[Spider-Vader]

Deadpool wont ever be a hit. The character just isnt mainstream enough.

If Deadpool could become borderline A-lister from appearances in Borgins & Hulk vs, then a movie could be a hit.

 

[CelticPredator]

Let's hope not.

Spider-Byte is the person who I DONT want to even be a part of this movie. He's telling me something that I know deep down in my soul that isnt true.

I mean, you can turn any comic character into a PG-13 character. You can easily make Rorshach a PG-13 character, you can easily make Marv a PG-13 character.....but the point is, who those characters are, is gone. The edge that makes them great is gone.

Look at AvP. They turned both the Alien and the Predator into PG-13 characters. But it didnt work. Who they were was gone.

Which is what will happen to Deadpool. I dont know why you cant see that. Unless you're Tom Rothman.

And btw, Deadpool wont make a ton of money. So Fox aint doing it for just that. The way they've set it up, you can tell that they want something good. And not Generic Hero Film of the Month like Wolverine was. That movie was trash. Pure trash.

You want a PG-13 Deadpool? Enjoy trash good sir. You think they can recast Reynolds and everything will be good? Enjoy the trash please. Because that is what you'll get. Mark my words.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Dear God.

 

[CelticPredator]

Yeah well, I'm sick of *****fying characters.

So i'm stickin to my agrument forever and ever and ever.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Making something ultra violent doesn't make it good, that's the problem with the R rated crowd on this board, they equate making a character tough with him committing stupidly violent acts.

 

[CelticPredator]

You think that all I want to see is Deadpool running around saying **** **** **** and killing people?

That's the problem with the PG-13 crowd on this board. They always jump to conclusions.

They dont really get what the character is, at his core.

Let's break down Mr. Wilson huh?

Wade Wilson is a merc. He gets one day gets cancer, and decides to enter this program that could potentially cure him. Now something goes wrong, horribly...horribly wrong. He ends up being exparamented on, over and over...until he's broken. He ends up getting so messed up in the head, he decides he gives himself a deathwish. But he does not die. He survives. He ends up killing ever single person in that facilty. And he's still incredibly insane.

In fact, that whole issue alone would make the film R. It's not even all that violent...it's the subject matter. Deadpool is a dark, dark character. Dispite his wise cracks, jokes...ect...him, at the core, is a incredibly horrible person. He kills without any mercy, he does things that most people wouldnt even do.

It's not the violence I want, it's the character. Kids wont get that character. Deadpool is INSANE. That's why I love him so much. He's got this edge to him. He has moments in the comics of pure insanity, moments that even bothered me a little bit.

And that's what makes Deadpool an interesting character. His unpredictibly. He can be so laid back, and funny, and the next minute, he just murdered a Pregnate woman...because he was paid.

 

[Hunter Rider]

That doesn't even sound like a character an R rated movie would have, but once you remove the garbage aspects and get to the center he needn't be R b/c killing pregnant women b/c he was paid to is about as appealing as eating your own ****, so it would never be included.

Only if you take it to the extreme corners of the character does he need to be an R, b/c none of what you said there bar the last part is undoable.

The problem is the attitude that if it isn't R it will suck, now I don't give a damn what rating it gets, but my mind is open to the film more so than the rating.

I'm not a PG-13 or R rated crowd member, it's all irrelevant to me, but I've seen you in other threads moaning about lack of F bombs and blood in certain films so it's not like what I said was totally untrue.

 

[CelticPredator]

*sigh* you missed the point of what I was trying to say. Deadpool needs his extremes. That's WHO he is...he's an extreme character.

I dont know why people think ratings arent important to the film. It's very. It sets the tone for the film.

Now, if there's some cool stylized action flick, let it be PG-13! Fine by me! The tone is unaffected.

Take Inception. Nothing in the film's story or plot needed an R-Rating. It's fine how it is.

However a film like Predators, HAS to be rated R because it shouldnt have this light tone. It should be dark, violent, and horrific. (although it should've pushed harder).

Honestly, I dont see every movie and go "OMG IT'S PG-13! PASSSS!" because most movies dont need to be rated R. But some do. Some really do. And you can also tell because things feel incomplete. I've heard The Other Guys had a lot of "missing" stuff in it. Like you can almost tell things were cut out to achiveve the rating.

That's also another issue I have too...when the studio takes a film, that was filmed with an R in mind, and then they cut it down for the kiddies...that makes me sick. It really does.

So I honestly dont get this hate for people who want a certin tone for a film. Do you think I want movies like Spider-Man, or Iron Man to be rated R? I dont. Because the tone of the film is already perfect.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I didn't miss the point, I just thing you're wrong. Tone is not going to be effected unless you go to extremes, Deadpool is not extreme all the time, and I look at TDK and much of what was in that was dark and gritty and worked fine as a PG-13.

You feel the movie NEEDS to be R rated, I don't.

The studios cutting movies that were filmed as an R is about money, look how much The Other Guys made, I don't see Ferrell or the director crying blue murder, they'll give you your uncut version on DVD anyway, and from the reviews I've seen most loved the movie, so maybe whoever told you that is paranoid.

 

[CelticPredator]

No. They werent paranoid.

I'll ask you this...do you think Watchmen or Sin City could've been PG-13, and still kept the same tone, and feel as the books?

 

[Hunter Rider]

So you say and yet I know posters on here who are all about critique and they haven't said anything of the sort and loved the film.

Yes both could, the only thing you remove from Sin City tonally is some of the imagery.

 

[CelticPredator]

I'm sure it's fine...this is just what I was told. I'll see it for my self, and all that jazz.

No. Sin City has got a lot more brewing in it then just some violent images.

 

[sabetoonth]

and the nudity

 

[CelticPredator]

The hookers, Kevin's whole thing, Marv, I mean, the whole tone of the flick is incredibly dark. Incredibly violent. Even without the violence.

 

[Hunter Rider]

The only thing in Sin City that would make it difficult is the sado rape and cannibalism, other than that you wouldn't need to change much other than how much of the violence you see and cutting down the cussing.

 

[CelticPredator]

But then you take away the story....

So when you take away the story, the characters, the meat of the tales....you're left with The Spirit.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I never said take them away did I? I said they'd be a stumbling block. Rape and cannibalism has nothing to do with tone either, they are acts at the very ugly end of the violence scale thus they turn most people's stomachs and are hard to portray without hitting an R, but not impossible.

 

[CelticPredator]

This is going to just get me banned. Argueing with mods never ends well. So i'm done...for now, until news comes up.