Sequels Deadpool Spin-off Confirmed

[SpiderByte]

I dont understand the issue. Its not like they can stop Ryan from making movies with other studios, which at the end of the day is exactly what Deadpool is.

Deadpool can make movies with other studios?

 

[CelticPredator]

Actually, by using a contract, they can force him to not make Deadpool. If he goes and makes Deadpool, he wont get paid for Green Lantern. But that's a big IF.

 

[SWAT]

They gave up Punisher. It's only a matter of time.

Not to mention, Fox would have to keep making those films. But Marvel Studios has Disney to hold on to, while Fox can only keep the rights as long as they are successful.

The hell are you talking about... FOX did't have the rights for The Punisher. Lionsgate did, who is barely a movie studio as it is, who at this point only makes Tyler Perry movies and Saw sequels. FOX has Daredevil, Fantastic Four and the X-Men and how many of those do you think FOX is looking to reboot. ALL OF THEM!

 

[Jow Strummer]

What DC/WB is doing is pretty *****ey. They see Deadpool getting closer and closer to being made, so they are trying to sway Reynolds and make him quit Deadpool.

Because that's all they can do. The decision itself comes down to Reynolds himself, no one else. I bet deep down, Reynolds is cursing DC for putting him in the middle of this tug of war.

Fact is, WB/DC do not control Reynolds. He doesn't have a "golden handcuff" type deal with them. He can do what he wants.

So until Reynolds says something on the matter, i'm not taking any of this talk seriously, and neither should you guys.

 

[LadyVader]

I bet deep down, Reynolds is cursing DC for putting him in the middle of this tug of war.

O... rly!?

Cursing them for what exactly? For turning him into an A-list actor? For giving him long term employement and a wad of cash? For NOT sewing his mouth shut?

Come on now, let's be real here. It makes perfect sense for Reynolds to stick with the studio that gave him the better deal. No matter how much love he has for the character fact is he's got a career to look out for and let's not forget that Fox completely and utterly destroyed the character of Deadpool in Wolverine: Origins. That couldn't have been an overwhelmingly positive experience for Ryan. Not saying that he hated the role as it turned out, but just saying.

Ryan has no guarantee that should he do a Deadpool movie, Fox would not be just as uptight and nasty as they were during the production process for Wolverine: Origins.

I bet Ryan is not bitter one bit. He got the better deal, better studio, better paycheck. What exactly is he losing out on in this deal? The oportunity to play Deadpool. Wow, that is indeed something worth losing nights sleep over. Not to be mean or anything, but how much love could he possibly have for this character given that he did sit by and let Fox destroy him.

It is Fox's bumbling and meddling that cause the Deadpool movie to never be, should that be the case in the end. And if Ryan does want to do the movie but WB will keep him from doing that, then it's going to go down exactly like I imagined first time I heard about Ryan being cast as GL. WB are making an investment here and they want to protect it.

 

[goh78]

This is only moving along what I've felt since the beginning, that Reynolds will never be part of a Deadpool movie. Just seems like a mess with the abomination that was Wolverine, now he is Green Lantern (for 3 films?), and if he becomes an even bigger star, I can't see the suits over at Fox paying for a movie where Ryan Reynold's face is covered for the majority of the time. And if it does go down this way, it's a shame, because I don't think one single other actor would ever be excepted in the role by the comic book commmunity.

 

[SpiderByte]

There are people who think John Cena should have played Captain America.

Casting is the least of our problems.

 

[Jow Strummer]

O... rly!?

Cursing them for what exactly? For turning him into an A-list actor? For giving him long term employement and a wad of cash? For NOT sewing his mouth shut?

Come on now, let's be real here. It makes perfect sense for Reynolds to stick with the studio that gave him the better deal. No matter how much love he has for the character fact is he's got a career to look out for and let's not forget that Fox completely and utterly destroyed the character of Deadpool in Wolverine: Origins. That couldn't have been an overwhelmingly positive experience for Ryan. Not saying that he hated the role as it turned out, but just saying.

Ryan has no guarantee that should he do a Deadpool movie, Fox would not be just as uptight and nasty as they were during the production process for Wolverine: Origins.

I bet Ryan is not bitter one bit. He got the better deal, better studio, better paycheck. What exactly is he losing out on in this deal? The oportunity to play Deadpool. Wow, that is indeed something worth losing nights sleep over. Not to be mean or anything, but how much love could he possibly have for this character given that he did sit by and let Fox destroy him.

It is Fox's bumbling and meddling that cause the Deadpool movie to never be, should that be the case in the end. And if Ryan does want to do the movie but WB will keep him from doing that, then it's going to go down exactly like I imagined first time I heard about Ryan being cast as GL. WB are making an investment here and they want to protect it.

He sat by and let Fox ruin him? What the hell? What was he supposed to do? He got the opportunity to play a character he has wanted to play since 2002. He had a cameo role and did the best he could.

I don't know if you have followed his interviews, but the guy has been going on about Deadpool since before Blade Trinity came out. That's like nearly a decade. Then the Deadpool movie is FINALLY picking up some steam. The script is done (which Reynolds had input on) and it looks like Rodriguez will direct. You say there is no guarantee that Deadpool will be made properly this time? Yes there is... the guarantee is that Fox have already accepted the script Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick wrote, with the help of Reynolds himself, and are now in negotiations with Rodriguez. That says it all.

Reynolds has gotta look out for his career sure, but like he himself has said before, there is nothing wrong with playing GL and Deadpool. And there isn't. But WB/DC are making it difficult for him by claiming they want to make a trilogy... before the first film has even got a trailer. I personally think that rumour is just WB playing games and forcing Reynolds into an ultimatum. WB have been wary about big budget superhero movies for years, unless the character is Batman. They got burned with Superman Returns as well. So all of a sudden they are planning a GL trilogy before the first GL film even has a trailer?

Green Lantern is in no way a guaranteed box office success. And anyway, even if it is and it makes him a bigger star... why can't he still do his little cult passion project? Which seeing the writers and director who is lined up, it will probably be.

And what is this rubbish about WB/DC protecting their investment? Protecting it from what, exactly? Whether the Deadpool movie is a success or not, if that's what you are talking about, has absolutely no effect on the Green Lantern franchise.

Green Lantern is the potentially lucrative event movie. Deadpool is the cult movie that he wants to do simply because he wants to do it... and has done for nearly a decade. Him giving up on Deadpool now is like running a marathon, getting to the final straight, then quitting. Or a boxer fighting to the 11th round, then quitting on his stool before the 12th. It just doesn't make any sense.

 

[CelticPredator]

O... rly!?

Cursing them for what exactly? For turning him into an A-list actor? For giving him long term employement and a wad of cash? For NOT sewing his mouth shut?

Come on now, let's be real here. It makes perfect sense for Reynolds to stick with the studio that gave him the better deal. No matter how much love he has for the character fact is he's got a career to look out for and let's not forget that Fox completely and utterly destroyed the character of Deadpool in Wolverine: Origins. That couldn't have been an overwhelmingly positive experience for Ryan. Not saying that he hated the role as it turned out, but just saying.

Ryan has no guarantee that should he do a Deadpool movie, Fox would not be just as uptight and nasty as they were during the production process for Wolverine: Origins.

I bet Ryan is not bitter one bit. He got the better deal, better studio, better paycheck. What exactly is he losing out on in this deal? The oportunity to play Deadpool. Wow, that is indeed something worth losing nights sleep over. Not to be mean or anything, but how much love could he possibly have for this character given that he did sit by and let Fox destroy him.

It is Fox's bumbling and meddling that cause the Deadpool movie to never be, should that be the case in the end. And if Ryan does want to do the movie but WB will keep him from doing that, then it's going to go down exactly like I imagined first time I heard about Ryan being cast as GL. WB are making an investment here and they want to protect it.

You have a GL Avatar....I mean...I dont know if your opinion can be vaild due to obvious bias.....

 

[LadyVader]

He sat by and let Fox ruin him? What the hell? What was he supposed to do? He got the opportunity to play a character he has wanted to play since 2002. He can't start making demands of studios.

Of course not. But he can refuse to work with them again.

I don't know if you have followed his interviews, but the guy has been going on about Deadpool since before Blade Trinity came out. That's like nearly a decade. Then the Deadpool movie is FINALLY picking up some steam. The script is done (which Reynolds had input on) and it looks like Rodriguez will direct.

I have been following Ryan Reynolds since his Two guys, a girl and a pizza place days. In regards to Deadpool, I noticed he was way more passionate about the character BEFORE working on Wolverine: Origins. Then afterwards.

I never ever bought the idea of a Deadpool movie after Wolverine Origins because I saw it as fan service, a way to apease the fans over how badly Deadpool was handled. I thought maybe, maaaaaaybe, if Reynolds's got nothing to do, there's a 1% shot of making it happen. After the news broke he was GL, that's it, never gonna happen. I knew it wasn't going to happen for a year now.

I'm not the kind of person to say never, but I've been saying it for a while now. Never gonna happen. And if it is going to happen, I am not going to believe it until that mother****er is in production and we see the first production stills. And even then I'm going to hold of on being positive until we see a trailer.

I agree with you that WB is perhaps jumping the gun. However.

Green Lantern is in no way a guaranteed box office success. And anyway, even if it is and it makes him a bigger star... why can't he still do his little cult passion project?

You see Fox spending money on somebody's little cult passion project? Cause I don't. Maybe Fox Searchlight.

And what is this rubbish about WB/DC protecting their investment? Protecting it from what, exactly? Whether the Deadpool movie is a success or not, if that's what you are talking about, has absolutely no effect on the Green Lantern franchise.

An actor has to do promotion, interviews, go around the world, talk endlessly about how nice the X studio or Y studio has been to the project. Bla bla bla bla. Some people are so naive. "Oh he'll be wearing a mask in the movie. What's wrong with that."

He won't be wearing a mask in the press junkets, now will he? I wish we lived in the kind of a world where actors just act, but that's not the world we live in. An actor is more than his craft, he is a brand, and when hired to play a part he lends his own credibility and image to that part.

Let me put it like this. David Beckam is the face of the Armani underwear collection, right? Do you think Armani is oki with letting Beckam do a comercial for hemorrhoid cream? I don't think so.

Not that I'm comparing Deadpool to hemoroids, but just saying...

 

[SpiderByte]

His opinion doesn't count just because he likes GL?

Geez. Talk about picky.

 

[LadyVader]

^Ahem. Her opinion.

You have a GL Avatar....I mean...I dont know if your opinion can be vaild due to obvious bias.....

Yes, and who is in that GL avatar?

Kyle Rayner. Let it be known that I HATE Hal Jordan, with a vengeance. If you don't believe me, check out my review of Green Lantern: First Flight.

Hate Hal Jordan.
Love Deadpool.

But after seeing Wolverine: Origins, I was convinced that the promise of a Deadpool movie was just fan service. Mayb there's a 1% chance it'll get made I thought, if Reynolds's got nothing better to do. That 1% disappeared after the announcement. RR is gonna be Hal Jordan. A Deadpool movie is never gonna happen, and frankly I'm surprised people are so shocked by this.

 

[Jow Strummer]

Of course not. But he can refuse to work with them again.

He's been working with them. He has had input in the whole production so far.

I have been following Ryan Reynolds since his Two guys, a girl and a pizza place days. In regards to Deadpool, I noticed he was way more passionate about the character BEFORE working on Wolverine: Origins. Then afterwards.

I don't think so. Every single interview he has given since that film he has mentioned Deadpool. Even in interviews at comic con where he was there for GL he mentioned Deadpool.

I never ever bought the idea of a Deadpool movie after Wolverine Origins because I saw it as fan service, a way to apease the fans over how badly Deadpool was handled. I thought maybe, maaaaaaybe, if Reynolds's got nothing to do, there's a 1% shot of making it happen. After the news broke he was GL, that's it, never gonna happen. I knew it wasn't going to happen for a year now.

I'm not the kind of person to say never, but I've been saying it for a while now. Never gonna happen. And if it is going to happen, I am not going to believe it until that mother****er is in production and we see the first production stills. And even then I'm going to hold of on being positive until we see a trailer.

Hmmm ok... Fox just wasted money on hiring writers and are in negotiations with Robert Rodriguez for no reason then i guess...

I agree with you that WB is perhaps jumping the gun. However.

Glad i'm not the only sane person in the world!

You see Fox spending money on somebody's little cult passion project? Cause I don't. Maybe Fox Searchlight.

Yes i do, especially with the fact they want Rodriguez to direct it. Rodriguez is well know for managing budgets. He could make a great Deadpool flick for 50 million. No real financial risk there.

An actor has to do promotion, interviews, go around the world, talk endlessly about how nice the X studio or Y studio has been to the project. Bla bla bla bla. Some people are so naive. "Oh he'll be wearing a mask in the movie. What's wrong with that."

He won't be wearing a mask in the press junkets, now will he? I wish we lived in the kind of a world where actors just act, but that's not the world we live in. An actor is more than his craft, he is a brand, and when hired to play a part he lends his own credibility and image to that part.

I understand all that. But still, i don't see how that effects GL at all. As long as the two movies wouldn't be going up against each other at the box office, it really doesn't matter. They are just two totally different acting jobs.

Let me put it like this. David Beckam is the face of the Armani underwear collection, right? Do you think Armani is oki with letting Beckam do a comercial for hemoroid cream? I don't think so. :P

Nice! But not really the same as this.

A better comparison would be if Beckham is doing ads for Adidas and Nike at the same time. If Deadpool and GL were coming out in the same summer... i could totally understand WB/DCs position. But Deadpool and GL wouldn't be coming out in the same summer. So as far as i'm concerned, what they are doing is shady tactics to try and force an actor to drop out of his dream project.

 

[LadyVader]

A better comparison would be if Beckham is doing ads for Adidas and Nike at the same time.

Like I said. It's about image, it's about PR. An actor's job does not end on the set.

Hmmm ok... Fox just wasted money on hiring writers and are in negotiations with Robert Rodriguez for no reason then i guess...

Is the script actually done? Rodriguez only got an early draft. Did scriptwriters get paid? We know this for a fact? And negotiations don't mean anything. I'll beleive this movie is coming together when it's going into production and not a moment sooner.

 

[Jow Strummer]

This is what has happened.

WB/DC have been thinking all along that Deadpool would never see the light of day. Now that Deadpool is picking up steam, with a completely script and a director in negotiations they've gone "Oh ****! They ARE making it! Let's try and force Ryan to drop it!"

It isn't a coincidence that the rumours from WB have come out just after it is revealed Rodriguez is in negotiations to direct Deadpool.

 

[LadyVader]

Actually, that news is a couple of weeks old.

Man, I can see you're on a mission here. And that's fine. You wanna vilify WB, go right ahead. I'm just saying. In my mind, the Deadpool movie's fate was decided the day that Ryan signed those papers with WB. Breaks my heart too, but I've had time to make my peace with it.

 

[Jow Strummer]

Like I said. It's about image, it's about PR. An actor's job does not end on the set.

And again... i know that.

But if the two films are coming out in totally different years, then what does it matter?

Is the script actually done? Rodriguez only got an early draft. Did scriptwriters get paid? We know this for a fact? And negotiations don't mean anything. I'll beleive this movie is coming together when it's going into production and not a moment sooner.

Yes the script is done. I spoke to Rhett Reese on Twitter about a month ago.

And Rodriguez has already hinted he will do it. He said anything he does will come after Spy Kids 4, to give it some breathing room. That matches up with what Lauren Shuler Donner said when she revealed they wanted to start shooting in 2011.

 

[Jow Strummer]

Actually, that news is a couple of weeks old.

Man, I can see you're on a mission here. And that's fine. You wanna vilify WB, go right ahead. I'm just saying. In my mind, the Deadpool movie's fate was decided the day that Ryan signed those papers with WB. Breaks my heart too, but I've had time to make my peace with it.

I'm not vilifying WB. As far as i'm concerned they are doing it themselves.

They are playing dirty games to get Reynolds to give up his dream role. Probably offering him millions of dollars. Whispering sweet nothings in his ear, saying they'll make him a big star (which is far from certain anyway...) for no other reason than DC vs Marvel rivalry bragging rights. Because i will not buy the "protecting their investment" thing. There is nothing to protect it from as long as the movies are not released/promoted at the same time.

At the end of the day the decision is entirely down to Reynolds. I just hope he isn't bought out.

 

[LadyVader]

I'm not vilifying WB. As far as i'm concerned they are doing it themselves.

They are playing dirty games to get Reynolds to give up his dream role. Probably offering him millions of dollars. Whispering sweet nothings in his ear, saying they'll make him a big star (which is far from certain anyway...) for no other reason than DC vs Marvel rivalry bragging rights. Because i will not buy the "protecting their investment" thing. There is nothing to protect it from as long as the movies are not released/promoted at the same time.

At the end of the day the decision is entirely down to Reynolds. I just hope he isn't bought out.

Oh yeah, def. not vilifying them here.

Question. Did you just join the Boards today to complain about this unholy situation? I'm just asking.

 

[Jow Strummer]

haha well that is the appeal in the role though isn't it? Becoming a big star, i'm sure people are saying that, but it isn't for certain IMO..

 

[CelticPredator]

His opinion doesn't count just because he likes GL?

Geez. Talk about picky.

Well....kinda.

I mean, a GL fan is probably going to give more of a **** about GL, then Deadpool...so...

 

[LadyVader]

I re-iterate. I hate Hal Jordan. I love Deadpool.

 

[CelticPredator]

^ Ok. But you can see where i'm coming from....

 

[LadyVader]

Well that's the thing because within the GL universe, people have different favourite GL's. Heck, I'd prefer to see an Alan Scott movie over a Hal Jordan one. But try making a movie about a superhero with his one weakness being wood.

 

[CelticPredator]

Every man's weakness is wood.