Deep Space Nine vs. Babylon 5

Picard Sisko

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May 28, 2012
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I am the kind of guy who hates comparing franchises, especially Star Trek and Star Wars. However, I think DS9 vs. B5 is rather appropriate. For those of you who are not familiar with the story, here is a little history lesson:

The pilot episode aired just weeks before the debut of Babylon 5. According to Babylon 5 creator, J. Michael Straczynski, Paramount was aware of his concept as early as 1989,[19] when he attempted to sell the show to the studio, and provided them with the series bible, pilot script, artwork, lengthy character background histories, and "synopses to about 22 or so planned episodes taken from the overall course of the planned series".[20][21] Paramount allegedly passed on Babylon 5, but later announced Deep Space Nine was in development two months after Warner Bros. announced its plans for Babylon 5.[22] Straczynski has stated that he thinks Paramount may have used his bible and scripts as the basis for DS9's first season.[23] In 1993 he said, "'Okay, YOU (Paramount) know what happened, and *I* know what happened, but let's try to be grownup about it for now,' though I must say that the shapechanging thing nearly tipped me back over the edge again. If there are no more major similarities that crop up in the next few weeks or months, with luck we can continue that way."[22] However, by 1996, Straczynski's views on the subject had moderated, and he stated that he did not believe that Deep Space Nine was "cribbing" Babylon 5 plotlines from his original source material. Nevertheless, he also stated that "a compelling argument" could be made for either side as to whether Paramount was attempting to "co-opt" his series by airing similar material.[20] In a 2011 interview, Deep Space Nine executive producer Rick Berman stated that neither he nor co-creator Michael Piller were aware of Straczynski's concept or any pitch to Paramount, and that the accusation that Deep Space Nine "stole" from Babylon 5 was "comical".[24] Babylon 5's first-run syndicated ratings averaged between 3 and 4% of U.S. households from 1995 to 1997, whereas DS9 ranged from 4 to 5% during the same time span.

The similarities are obvious, and I'm sure Paramount took some ideas from B5. What do you guys think? Personally, I don't think Babylon 5 aged very well, and Star Trek: Deep Space Nine is better in the long run.
I agree. DSnine has aged better.
DS9 has its "90s" moments, but B5 has 90s written all over it. Their biggest mistake was the use of CGI, but I guess that was a result of their budget.

I would give the show a better chance if only there wasn't so much competition between the two. Watch this promo:
Never really got into Babylon 5. Tried watching it a few times but couldn't stick it. I always preferred DS9 and found it way more interesting.
I liked Babylon 5 as a kid. Tried to watch it recently, it doesn't hold up well at all. I got into Star Trek as an adult, and Deep Space Nine is easily the better show and holds up significantly better as well.
I think B5 gets praise because it was very serialized?
I like best but let's be honest the final season of Babylon 5 was big letdown.Espeilly the finale.During the final arc on DS9 you didn't want show to end.B5 fans can't say the same.
Making B5 fans buy novels to get full story on Centuri Is cop out.Plus never showing us
the telepae war or how the plague launched In B5:A Call to arms was cured Is pathetic.
I remember the DS9 finale was a bit of a letdown for me since the Dominion war just ends. But I understand that there were budget constraints, so that is part of it. But what you said about B5 does sound pathetic.
They had to wrap up the war In finale on TV budget.I was really disappoint IN NG films we never got to see what Enterprise was doing during the war.Or more on fallout for war.

To me I was never disappointed by end of war.any disapointment from finale was of SIsko
becoming one with prophts but I realize they clearly Intended that from ending by the begining of final season once they revealed a prophet had basiclly been his mother.

Before enterprise season 3 DS9 was most serialized of STar Trek.
I never understood why Paramount never made a Dominion War film. It could have the flagship vessel (The Enterprise) fighting alongside with DS9 characters and other starships, but instead we got Insurrection. Rather than fighting for the Federation, the Enterprise is busy helping 600 people on some planet that nobody cares about. Such a wasted opportunity.
I liked DS9 better, but I still got to say I really liked B5 a lot. JMS did a wonderful job.

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