Details on Sandman's car chase scene...

[TheSlag]

You gotta wait for trailers to see stuff like that, and they're not going show throwing/ripping/shredding damage by the villains, in a few seconds of on the set filming.

Regardless of the fantasy world you're living in... Sandy is "driving" the armored car. That... in itself... makes it a waste... and basically a *yawn* moment.

I'm sure there will be scenes (CGI, etc.) added around this scene, BUT this scene involves the superpowered villain... "driving" the armored car. *yawn*

 

[CrypticOne]

This scene sounds hella tight. I can't wait to see it.

 

[Nebins]

Every picture I look at just makes me more excited for this movie!

 

[Visionary]

Regardless of the fantasy world you're living in... Sandy is "driving" the armored car. That... in itself... makes it a waste... and basically a *yawn* moment.

I'm sure there will be scenes (CGI, etc.) added around this scene, BUT this scene involves the superpowered villain... "driving" the armored car. *yawn*

What the hell are you talking about? Don't you remember T2, both the Terminator and the liquid metal man was driving trucks, cars and motorcycles. Both had superpowers and superpower battles.

 

[TheSlag]

What the hell are you talking about? Don't you remember T2, both the Terminator and the liquid metal man was driving trucks, cars and motorcycles. Both had superpowers and superpower battles.

Because the humans the Terminator was sent to protect did NOT have superpowers, and could NOT stand toe to toe with "liquid metal man", and thus, HAD to run to survive.

And I don't want Spidey to copy another movie, I want it to raise the bar like it did with the train and wall battle between Spidey and Ock in SM2.

Shoot, I guess it would of been "kewl" to see Ock driving an armored car with his tentacles *gasp*... and then I know.... we could like have the armored car smash into a parked car along the side of the road.

*wow*

 

[Liquid Snake]

Because the humans the Terminator was sent to protect did NOT have superpowers, and could NOT stand toe to toe with "liquid metal man", and thus, HAD to run to survive.

And I don't want Spidey to copy another movie, I want it to raise the bar like it did with the train and wall battle between Spidey and Ock in SM2.

Shoot, I guess it would of been "kewl" to see Ock driving an armored car with his tentacles *gasp*... and then I know.... we could like have the armored car smash into a parked car along the side of the road.

*wow*

He's driving for money idiot, bad guys dont just go around being bad, Im sure he'll be out of the truck for the fight, you need to grow up and stop getting your panties in abunch over 2 set pictures.

 

[TheSlag]

He's driving for money idiot, bad guys dont just go around being bad, Im sure he'll be out of the truck for the fight, you need to grow up and stop getting your panties in abunch over 2 set pictures.

Oh really, idiot ehh... And I'm the one who NEEDS to grow up? Well, Asswipe, I don't want my villains in Spidey Movies to be impersonating Jeff Gordon. Sandman should have his own style of a get away, just like Ock did in SM2 (scaling a wall). And besides the driving, the BIG EFFECT (gasp) is the Armored car (being driven)... *steady yourself* OUT OF CONTROL *gasp*.

Now, pretty exciting in day to day life (maybe), BUT in a movie about SUPERPOWERED beings... *nope*.

I would of rather seen these effects with an enraged Sandman, slamming the armored car sideways into the cars, or hell, better yet... through a frickin building. As opposed to oops... my foot slipped and I lost control and ran into some cars. *yawn*

 

[SpiderB]

Unless I've missed something here, it's not like Sandman's gonna be sitting in the driver's seat with his hands on the wheel. He's turned himself into sand and filled the truck, the weight of the sand on the accelerator causing the truck to drive out of control. Sounds perfectly fine and within character to me.

 

[Visionary]

Because the humans the Terminator was sent to protect did NOT have superpowers, and could NOT stand toe to toe with "liquid metal man", and thus, HAD to run to survive.

And I don't want Spidey to copy another movie, I want it to raise the bar like it did with the train and wall battle between Spidey and Ock in SM2.

Shoot, I guess it would of been "kewl" to see Ock driving an armored car with his tentacles *gasp*... and then I know.... we could like have the armored car smash into a parked car along the side of the road.

*wow*

You missed my point, the supervillain (liquid metal man) was driving a truck, car and motorcycle, which you said was a waste, and yet we still got supervillain vs. hero/protector toe to toe and destructive battle scenes. Scenes have to be setup for bigger scenes to come, which is why the Ock/Spidey/Train fight was not the first action scene.

You act like the is the only action scene in the film, when there's going to be 3 superpowered beings, all whom's big battles that won't be seen by us in a few seconds of footage. No one said this was a copy of another movie, I was giving an example. From what I gather, Sandman wants what's in the armored car, and you're seeing it unfold, regardless, he is the cause of the destruction that's going on and possible deaths--much like Ock was when he removed the breaks from the train. We didn't see Ock standing in front of the train, ripping and shredding the train apart, but if anyone would have died from that train's destruction, Ock would be the cause.

You don't know what bar is going to be raised, unless you see the entire film, not judging it based on a few seconds of footage. This is exactly why most directors don't want any footage of there film shown (although the studios seem to love it), until it's made, because it gets dissected to pieces before they see the final product or at least a full bleed trailer.

 

[TheSlag]

You missed my point, the supervillain (liquid metal man) was driving a truck, car and motorcycle, which you said was a waste, and yet we still got supervillain vs. hero/protector toe to toe and destructive battle scenes. Scenes have to be setup for bigger scenes to come, which is why the Ock/Spidey/Train fight was not the first action scene.

You act like the is the only action scene in the film, when there's going to be 3 superpowered beings, all whom's big battles that won't be seen by us in a few seconds of footage. No one said this was a copy of another movie, I was giving an example. From what I gather, Sandman wants what's in the armored car, and you're seeing it unfold, regardless, he is the cause of the destruction that's going on and possible deaths--much like Ock was when he removed the breaks from the train. We didn't see Ock standing in front of the train, ripping and shredding the train apart, but if anyone would have died from that train's destruction, Ock would be the cause.

You don't know what bar is going to be raised, unless you see the entire film, not judging it based on a few seconds of footage. This is exactly why most directors don't want any footage of there film shown (although the studios seem to love it), until it's made, because it gets dissected to pieces before they see the final product or at least a full bleed trailer.

And you missed my point, from first post til now. This is a wasted effect, that could have been utilized in line with the superpowered beings in the movie.

As I stated before, I'm sure there will be other fights, and better fights. Heck, I'm sure there will be fights in and around this scene, but... I would have RATHER had the effects be the result of Sandy's attack... as opposed to him filling the cab with sand and/or making his get away in the armored car. Both... *yawn*

And as far as judging the movie on this scene, I am not. I'm judging THIS scene on what we know at this point. PERIOD. Just like the Raimi is GRRRREATTT TONY TIGERS are judging it as *greatness* without seeing the entire movie EITHER.

 

[ElectroFlare]

I just hope tat Sandman is shooting sand at Spidey out of the car or something...

 

[Christopher Nolan]

I think Sandman will have some good Scenes in the movie, where he will kick Spidey in his ass. I very look forward to see the CGI Effects of the third movie, some Fans don't like the effects of the second movie.

 

[Cmill216]

I just hope tat Sandman is shooting sand at Spidey out of the car or something...

One of the descriptions from a person on the set said that Sandman would be doing just that as Spidey swings in to stop him.

 

[Visionary]

And you missed my point, from first post til now. This is a wasted effect, that could have been utilized in line with the superpowered beings in the movie.

As I stated before, I'm sure there will be other fights, and better fights. Heck, I'm sure there will be fights in and around this scene, but... I would have RATHER had the effects be the result of Sandy's attack... as opposed to him filling the cab with sand and/or making his get away in the armored car. Both... *yawn*

And as far as judging the movie on this scene, I am not. I'm judging THIS scene on what we know at this point. PERIOD. Just like the Raimi is GRRRREATTT TONY TIGERS are judging it as *greatness* without seeing the entire movie EITHER.

Again, that's like saying that I would rather have seen Doc Ock standing in front of the train, ripping it apart, instead of just removing the breaks. I could have said, "why is Doc Ock just removing the breaks, when he could be ripping and shredding the train apart and causing the destruction himself?" Not every action scene is going to be the big money shot for the villain. I'm sure there's going to be the very scenes that you speak of in the film, perhaps not in this scene (but WE are not going to see it being filmed) do to the heavy CGI.

 

[BHD]

welcome to the hype! seems pretty cool, i just wish they did more in the air. the cars were done in spidey two.

 

[TheSlag]

Again, that's like saying that I would rather have seen Doc Ock standing in front of the train, ripping it apart, instead of just removing the breaks. I could have said, "why is Doc Ock just removing the breaks, when he could be ripping and shredding the train apart and causing the destruction himself?" Not every action scene is going to be the big money shot for the villain. I'm sure there's going to be the very scenes that you speak of in the film, perhaps not in this scene (but WE are not going to see it being filmed) do to the heavy CGI.

1) It's brakes not breaks
2) Ock was not in the train taking it for a joy ride
3) Ock ripped the brake device out to endanger the train and it's passengers to make his get away. Big difference from this scene.
4) A speeding train on a raised track is considerably different than an armord car on a street. Sandy (or better yet Ock) could easily smash it off the road.
5) "do to the heavy CGI"... who writes your scrpts???? You need a new writer Oscar. AGAIN... I'm sure there WILL be better fight scenes, even some fighting around this scene even, REGARDLESS, this is a waste of effects given the genre of the movie.

 

[The Infernal]

I think I may be missing something but aren't you just nit-picking. I mean from what we've heard so far Sandman uses his powers to hi-jack the armoured van, then he drives and crashes it, then we assume he has to fight Spidey one on one. Not to mention we see Spidey 'surfing' behind the van so we can probably expect Sandman to use his powers whilst driving.

I don't think Sandman could get away from Spidey if he were just on foot, he's not as fast or as agile as Doc Ock. If here were just simply fighting Spidey then I'm sure he could beat him down enough to make his escape but he's got to think of the money, which I'm assuming that's what he is stealing. Sure, it's possible for him to put the money bags in his body but he would have to be careful when fighting Spidey not to loose them and careful isn't a word associate with Sandman. Using the truck as a getaway might be a rare bright idea for the character.

Not to mention that the action also has to fit with the story. It won't simply be a straight action movie.

 

[Visionary]

1) It's brakes not breaks
2) Ock was not in the train taking it for a joy ride
3) Ock ripped the brake device out to endanger the train and it's passengers to make his get away. Big difference from this scene.
4) A speeding train on a raised track is considerably different than an armord car on a street. Sandy (or better yet Ock) could easily smash it off the road.
5) "do to the heavy CGI"... who writes your scrpts???? You need a new writer Oscar. AGAIN... I'm sure there WILL be better fight scenes, even some fighting around this scene even, REGARDLESS, this is a waste of effects given the genre of the movie.

1) Correcting my spelling, should I bring you an apple to school tomorrow, teacher?
2) Sandman isn't joy riding, he wants what's in the armored truck, the cash/loot/diamonds, etc.
3) No difference at all, both are the cause of the destruction in either scene, and of potential deaths.
4) In this genre, there's very little difference, write it and it shall be so. Hell, I've seen Ock stop a speeding train in the comics, total destruction caused by his very own tentacles. But they chose another route for the film, and it still worked out very well.
5) It's not a waste, it's an action scene, like I said, not every action scene in the film is going to be the money shot for villain. Some scenes are going to be bigger than others, and some are used to setup the villain, or the introduction of the villain's first appearence with Spidey.

Oh, and it's SCRIPTS not SCRPTS. This is why you should never correct people's spelling, it's just silly.

 

[Nebins]

Isn't it a bit too soon to say whether or not this scene will be lame with Sandman driving the truck? All we have seen are random images in no particular order of how the scene goes.

 

[Visionary]

True, but you're in the realm of fanboyish geeks...those rules don't apply here.

 

[TheCardPlayer]

Sandman wants cash. Cash in truck. Must drive truck away. Not fill pockets with cash.

 

[TheSlag]

I think I may be missing something but aren't you just nit-picking. I mean from what we've heard so far Sandman uses his powers to hi-jack the armoured van, then he drives and crashes it, then we assume he has to fight Spidey one on one. Not to mention we see Spidey 'surfing' behind the van so we can probably expect Sandman to use his powers whilst driving.

I don't think Sandman could get away from Spidey if he were just on foot, he's not as fast or as agile as Doc Ock. If here were just simply fighting Spidey then I'm sure he could beat him down enough to make his escape but he's got to think of the money, which I'm assuming that's what he is stealing. Sure, it's possible for him to put the money bags in his body but he would have to be careful when fighting Spidey not to loose them and careful isn't a word associate with Sandman. Using the truck as a getaway might be a rare bright idea for the character.

Not to mention that the action also has to fit with the story. It won't simply be a straight action movie.

Nit-picking is wanting the effects to be great as opposed to so-so? Then I could say the other side is nit-picking, or stretching when they say it's FANtastic. If he disposes of Spidey, he can make his get away. I would rather see Sandy's powers, by smashing the Armored Car off the road as opposed to the out of control armored car being driven into other cars. It just makes for much better "Must See" TV...errr.. movie.

And a surfin Spidey on a car door SCREAMS Cheese to me... it DOES NOT scream Spidey agility to me.

But hey... you guys love it. Good for you. I was hoping for a more serious approach to the legend that is Spider-Man, one that pays tribute to the many classic storylines that have been told in the comics, NOT this tribute to the Saturday morning cartoon version of the hero (COWABUNGA DUDE)...

Hopefully, this one sceen, cheese and ALL is not indictive of the overall approach to the movie, especially given the cheesy (powerwise and storywise) villain they selected, AND the regulation of Venom to a mere cameo if the rumors are true.

And IF Harry's costume does come off as "Lord of the Snow" (LOL.. thanks V4Life )... and if his story takes second fiddle to ole Sandy... this movie and franchise is headed in the wrong direction.

 

[TheSlag]

1) Correcting my spelling, should I bring you an apple to school tomorrow, teacher?
2) Sandman isn't joy riding, he wants what's in the armored truck, the cash/loot/diamonds, etc.
3) No difference at all, both are the cause of the destruction in either scene, and of potential deaths.
4) In this genre, there's very little difference, write it and it shall be so. Hell, I've seen Ock stop a speeding train in the comics, total destruction caused by his very own tentacles. But they chose another route for the film, and it still worked out very well.
5) It's not a waste, it's an action scene, like I said, not every action scene in the film is going to be the money shot for villain. Some scenes are going to be bigger than others, and some are used to setup the villain, or the introduction of the villain's first appearence with Spidey.

Oh, and it's SCRIPTS not SCRPTS. This is why you should never correct people's spelling, it's just silly.

Just trying to keep you from looking the fool, but I see I'm far too late.

It's amazing how one fan not liking the scene can bring such outrage from the "faithful"

You "faithful" ones enjoy your cheese.

Edit: Oh, and it was NOT a matter of spelling or a typing mistake there... "buddie"

 

[Nebins]

Sandman wants cash. Cash in truck. Must drive truck away. Not fill pockets with cash.

Makes sense to me. I would much rather see him driving the truck trying to get away from Spider-man than running down the street with cash stuffed in his pockets and his hands full of bags with money signs on them.

 

[Symbiotica]

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