Diamond List for July 22nd, 2009

The Skrulls were there because it launched in the middle of SECRET INVASION and hoped to appeal to readers with that while getting them to stick around for the rest. Such a tactic failed with HEROES FOR HIRE (which launched in the middle of CIVIL WAR/THE INITIATIVE), but the cool thing about comic book marketing strategies is that they are always mindlessly repeated, regardless of result. Sadly, sales for CAPTAIN BRITAIN faded fast, and here we are.

Still, 16 issues of material isn't terribly short by today's launch standards. THE ORDER and THE THING didn't last that long.

True. It was a good book and if the price of comics weren't what they are I doubt I'd even have considered dropping the book at all. Just when there's a new title I want to read, something has to get dropped to make room for it and this was always on the bottom of the stack for me, or got pushed back a week when I couldn't afford everything coming out. I'm glad I had the oppertunity to read it to fruition though. It really was a good book and I'd like to see something more come from it.
 
MARVEL COMICS
NOVA #27 $2.99


Looks as if i will be skipping my trip to the comic book store next week.:csad:
 
Conan the cimmerian #12 $2.99
green lantern #44 (blackest night) $2.99
supergirl #43 $2.99
wednesday comics #3 (of 12) $3.99
fall of cthulhu nemesis #4 (of 4) $3.99
 
DC COMICS
GREEN LANTERN #44 (BLACKEST NIGHT)
POWER GIRL #3

MARVEL COMICS
CAPTAIN BRITAIN AND MI 13 #15

COMICS
DOCTOR WHO ROOM WITH A DEJA VIEW
FARSCAPE GONE & BACK #1

I'm still not sure if I'm going to read along with Blackest Night, so that Green Lantern is a "maybe" for me.
 
DETHKLOK VS THE GOON (ONE SHOT) $3.50 (because why the hell not?)
BLACKEST NIGHT TALES OF THE CORPS #2 (OF 3) $3.99
GREEN LANTERN #44 (BLACKEST NIGHT) $2.99
DEADPOOL SUICIDE KINGS #4 (OF 5) $3.99
GUARDIANS OF GALAXY #16 $2.99
NOVA #27 $2.99
 
Blackest night tales of the corps #2 (of 3) $3.99
final crisis legion of three worlds #5 (of 5) $3.99
freddy jason ash nightmare warriors #2 (of 6) (mr) $3.99
green lantern #44 (blackest night) $2.99
boys herogasm #3 (of 6) (mr) $2.99
fall of cthulhu nemesis #4 (of 4) $3.99
 
No offense to you, sir, but not for that price.

$5 for 104 pages of material?

That's $1 per 20 pages and change. That's like $1 per comic. You wouldn't buy 5 comics for $5?

If Marvel wants to know how far fans are willing to go $5 is too far for me. I don't care how many pages are inside. I'm not paying $5 for a comic book.

To put this in perspective: Some of the trade paperbacks that come out these days are collections of 5 comics: That's 110 pages of material. This single issue is 6 pages shy of some trade paperbacks. You're saying that Marvel is charging too much by offering readers almost a TRADE PAPERBACK'S WORTH OF MATERIAL for $5?

Especially one that I'm still angry over due to OMD.

Okay, that's a different matter. If that's how you feel 20 months later-- about a comic that came out from a different creative & editorial team before this current creative & editorial team took over-- there's nothing I can do about that. Your feelings are your feelings-- and all the power to you.
 
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Aliens #2 (the first issue of this was EXTREMELY good.
Incredible Herc.

And screw Hulk #600. I can't wait for #601!
 
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$5 for 104 pages of material?

That's $1 per 20 pages and change. That's like $1 per comic. You wouldn't buy 5 comics for $5?



To put this in perspective: Some of the trade paperbacks that come out these days are collections of 5 comics: That's 110 pages of material. This single issue is 6 pages shy of some trade paperbacks. You're saying that Marvel is charging too much by offering readers almost a TRADE PAPERBACK'S WORTH OF MATERIAL for $5?



Okay, that's a different matter. If that's how you feel 20 months later-- about a comic that came out from a different creative & editorial team before this current creative & editorial team took over-- there's nothing I can do about that. Your feelings are your feelings-- and all the power to you.


Didn't know Dan had a SHH account.:up:

IMO, you're currently one of the best, if not the best, Spidey writers out there. Keep up the good work!
 
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BLACKEST NIGHT TALES OF THE CORPS #2 (OF 3) $3.99
FINAL CRISIS LEGION OF THREE WORLDS #5 (OF 5) $3.99
GREEN LANTERN #44 (BLACKEST NIGHT) $2.99
INVINCIBLE #64 $2.99

Not a bad week.
 
$5 for 104 pages of material?

That's $1 per 20 pages and change. That's like $1 per comic. You wouldn't buy 5 comics for $5?

Not in addition to the $4 this and the $5 that that's also coming out along with this $5 comic. And I'd rather they were 5 $1 comics so I can choose the stories I'd actually want to read. If I have no interest in a story then I don't want to pay for it. It's like when I get a 22 page comic with 2 or 3 reprints in the back that I've already read or don't care about and I have to pay $4 or $5 for a 22 page story.

If this were a one time thing then I don't think there'd be a problem but I don't think any comic is worth $4 or $5. They're all over the place now and if I choose to buy a few comics at that price then I have to drop a $3 priced comic, which is closer to where I feel they are worth so I'd rather support that.


To put this in perspective: Some of the trade paperbacks that come out these days are collections of 5 comics: That's 110 pages of material. This single issue is 6 pages shy of some trade paperbacks. You're saying that Marvel is charging too much by offering readers almost a TRADE PAPERBACK'S WORTH OF MATERIAL for $5?

I don't buy trades either. Can't afford them. But it's a principal for me. To me, comic books should be something that everyone can enjoy. If a kid wants to read Spider-Man, he should be able to walk to his nearest retailer and buy it, not have to save a few extra weeks of allowance to afford it (exageration, but you get the drift).

Okay, that's a different matter. If that's how you feel 20 months later-- about a comic that came out from a different creative & editorial team before this current creative & editorial team took over-- there's nothing I can do about that. Your feelings are your feelings-- and all the power to you.

Yeah, it's nothing against you or the others who work on the book, but to me it's all fake. The characters that I watched grow for 16 years and could relate to have suddenly changed so dramatically for the worse that it's not the same book or characters anymore. For example... I didn't have much of a father figure growing up so, as sad as it is, I learned my morals from reading Spider-Man. Sad but true. I had no concept of a happy marraige but I loved seeing it when I grew up reading Peter and Mary Jane. I wanted a loving relationship like that. Andnow apparently Peter's morals allow deals with the devil and giving up your marraige for someone who wants to die and is going to die of age soon anyway. Complete slap in the face for me, and thats just some examples.

It's like some big unimportant What If now? I skimmed every issue for the first year or so and tried to give it a shot with New Ways to Die and American Son and they just make me mad at the book and Marvel in general so I threw them away. What happened with Spider-Man ruined any faith I have in Marvel to deal with the characters I've put so much faith into over the past 18 years now and my buying list is slowly dying away due to this.

Again, nothing you've done wrong, but Marvel made this decision, along with the price hikes, and it's killing my interest in the medium.
 
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It's like when I get a 22 page comic with 2 or 3 reprints in the back that I've already read or don't care about and I have to pay $4 or $5 for a 22 page story.

Well, that's clearly not the case with this issue.

If this were a one time thing then I don't think there'd be a problem...

It's ASM #600. This is a special case. We're not going to do this all the time on ASM. TRUST ME! It took WAYYY too much hard work and FARRR too many late nights to pull this off. :)

but I don't think any comic is worth $4 or $5.

Well you haven't seen this monster yet-- with 104 pages, no reprints, and a lead feature drawn by John Romita Jr.-- a lead that's close to TRIPLE length! (And 3 comics would cost $9!) And that's BEFORE you'd even get any of the back-ups... Including a 12 pager by STAN LEE! And MARCOS MARTIN!

...comic books should be something that everyone can enjoy. If a kid wants to read Spider-Man, he should be able to walk to his nearest retailer and buy it, not have to save a few extra weeks of allowance to afford it (exageration, but you get the drift).

Put this up against a 10th of a video game, a 1/2 of a movie ticket, or 5 song downloads on iTunes... And I think this is something a kid would spend their own money on. Or something that a parent would buy for their child. When I was a kid, my allowance was a quarter BECAUSE that was the price of a comic book. It's 34 years later, I know comics have gone up, but I'm pretty sure allowances have too. :)

I'm not going to address your feelings about OMD. Like I said before, your feelings are your feelings, and if there's no changing that, that's cool. And I get that these are message boards and part of that is so that you can have a place to vent. But it's been 20 months now. Just saying.
 
Yeah, it's nothing against you or the others who work on the book, but to me it's all fake. The characters that I watched grow for 16 years and could relate to have suddenly changed so dramatically for the worse that it's not the same book or characters anymore. For example... I didn't have much of a father figure growing up so, as sad as it is, I learned my morals from reading Spider-Man. Sad but true. I had no concept of a happy marraige but I loved seeing it when I grew up reading Peter and Mary Jane. I wanted a loving relationship like that. Andnow apparently Peter's morals allow deals with the devil and giving up your marraige for someone who wants to die and is going to die of age soon anyway. Complete slap in the face for me, and thats just some examples.

The funny part (to me) about this paragraph is the fact that I had a harder time relating to Peter Parker during his marriage than the way it was before.

Just sayin'...
 
What is DETHKLOK? I know what Goon is obviously so I was kind of curious when I saw that
 
BLACKEST NIGHT TALES OF THE CORPS #2 (OF 3)
FINAL CRISIS LEGION OF THREE WORLDS #5 (OF 5)
GREEN LANTERN #44 (BLACKEST NIGHT)
HELLBLAZER #257 (MR)
INVINCIBLE #64
CAPTAIN BRITAIN AND MI 13 #15
BOYS HEROGASM #3 (OF 6) (MR)
PROJECT SUPERPOWERS CHAPTER TWO #1

Hahaha, Legion of Three Worlds FINALLY ends. Holy crap that was a long wait. And where is ASM # 600?
 
I'm not going to address your feelings about OMD. Like I said before, your feelings are your feelings, and if there's no changing that, that's cool. And I get that these are message boards and part of that is so that you can have a place to vent. But it's been 20 months now. Just saying.

Oh snap! Mr. Slott still posts here. I figured with being so awesome that he wouldn't have time for us poo faces on this board. Good to see you are still lurking around have been REALLY enjoying your Spider-Man work.

I just can't believe that it's been 20 months since BND started. I knew it was closing in on it's second year but it just seems like it just started to me in a way. Didn't know that Marcos Martin was doing art in a side story with Stan the Man....I love Marcos Martin's artwork since that Dr. Strange Mini he did with BKV.
 
Oh snap! Mr. Slott still posts here. I figured with being so awesome that he wouldn't have time for us poo faces on this board. Good to see you are still lurking around have been REALLY enjoying your Spider-Man work.

Yeah, it's really cool. It's pretty neat just to have an actual professional within the industry post here ever so often, but Slott even participated in some of the OMD/BND discussion in the ASM thread once or twice:up:
 
Yeah, Dan Slott posts here occasionally. It's quite cool.
 
IMAGE COMICS
INVINCIBLE #64 $2.99

MARVEL COMICS
ALL NEW SAVAGE SHE-HULK #4
AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #600 <---HECK YES!!!! :) :) :) :up:
CAPTAIN BRITAIN AND MI 13 #15
DEADPOOL SUICIDE KINGS #4
GUARDIANS OF GALAXY #16
NOVA #27
INCREDIBLE HULK #600
INCREDIBLE HERCULES #131
 
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Man who spend too much time on computer while eating bag of Cheetos come away with neon orange penis.

DARK HORSE COMICS

ALIENS #2 (OF 4) $3.50
CONAN THE CIMMERIAN #12 $2.99

DC COMICS

BLACKEST NIGHT TALES OF THE CORPS #2 (OF 3) $3.99
FINAL CRISIS AFTERMATH DANCE #3 (OF 6) $2.99
FINAL CRISIS LEGION OF THREE WORLDS #5 (OF 5) $3.99 - (Oh, I forgot all about this mini.)
GOTHAM CITY SIRENS #2 $2.99 - (The new direction of the various batbooks have all been pretty interesting...except Red Robin.)
GREEN LANTERN #44 (BLACKEST NIGHT) $2.99
OUTSIDERS #20 $2.99
POWER GIRL #3 $2.99
SPIRIT #31 $2.99
SUPERGIRL #43 $2.99
WEDNESDAY COMICS #3 (OF 12) $3.99 - (Beautiful 1st issue! Just, for the amount of content you get, I'm not sure if asking 3.99 is not asking too much. Also, I will probably save up a bunch, then read them all together.)

IMAGE COMICS

CYBERFORCE HUNTER KILLER #1 (OF 5) CHOI & OBACK CVR C $2.99
FUSION #3 (OF 3) $2.99

MARVEL COMICS

ALL NEW SAVAGE SHE-HULK #4 (OF 4) DKR $3.99
CAPTAIN BRITAIN AND MI 13 #15$2.99
DEADPOOL SUICIDE KINGS #4 (OF 5) $3.99
GUARDIANS OF GALAXY #16 $2.99
NOVA #27 $2.99

.....

And, of course, all the other Marvel comics that aren't listed, like AMS #600!!! $4.99 for 104 pages of all new material is AWESOME, no matter what bitter Hobbits say! Hell, I just bought Savage Dragon 150 for $5.99 for 100 pages, and that cover said it was the best deal in comics...BS, Marvel and Slott just one-upped 'em!

COMICS

BOYS HEROGASM #3 (OF 6) (MR) $2.99
JIM BUTCHERS DRESDEN FILES STORM FRONT VOL 02 #1 PX CVR $3.99
PATRICIA BRIGGS MERCY THOMPSON HOMECOMING #4 (OF 4) $3.99
PROJECT SUPERPOWERS CHAPTER TWO #1 $2.99
ROBERT JORDANS NEW SPRING #7 (RES) $3.99
TOY STORY MYSTERIOUS STRANGER #3 (OF 4) $2.99
WARRIORS JAILBREAK #1 (MR) $3.99
WARRIORS OFFICIAL MOVIE ADAPTATION #3 (OF 5) (MR) $3.99
WE KILL MONSTERS #1 (OF 6) $3.50 - (Not sure of this one. I'll have to take a look at it.)
 
Yeah, it's really cool. It's pretty neat just to have an actual professional within the industry post here ever so often, but Slott even participated in some of the OMD/BND discussion in the ASM thread once or twice:up:

JH getting to have a discussion with Dan Slott??!!??

Yep, knowing Dan looks at our comments from time to time just makes me like him more and more. I just wish/pray that he'll come to the Emerald City Comic-Con one of these days. The 2009 Comic-Con was sooo much better than the 2008, as most Marvel writers/artists skipped the 2008; but, I got to meet some of my favorite ones last time, like Brubaker and Bendis. But, no Slott was probably the one I missed most. Generally, I try to limit myself to the number of comics I get signed to 2 or 3...but, for Slott, I think I'd have to bring a whole 5 comics!!!

I just looked at the website for next years...Terry Moore!!! Geoff Johns!!! OMG, I should get my comics ready right now! I'm already bringing that final, excellent issue of Strangers In Paradise! And, Echo!!! Both of those titles are so damn good, and it's a shame that so many people still haven't read them, even though they've been hyped like crazy in Wizard and other forums.

Please, Mr. Slott, Please...come to Seattle in 2010!!!
 

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