The Dark Knight Digital Dent!

[KOLLUS]

removing the ear is a must, IF they're going for a half n' half style.
Though the acid would realisticaly only hit the front side of his face.

 

[jimmy]

Well there are certain things, such as burned lips, eye sockets etc. which are just hard to achieve via makeup. If anything this is encouraging to me, it means that Nolan is going full out with bringing the comic two-face to the screen.

Noirman said that he saw teeth, so I don't know what they are going to use CGI for. . .

Regardless of CGI, he will be in makeup. CGI would be used to enhance, not replace.

It might turn out pretty cool that way.

 

[Eggyman]

I think that all depends on the angle of attacker and Dent -- unless he's wearing ear-muffs, of course.

 

[Batman jr.]

Digital Dent, hm... Is James Cameron working on this movie instead of Avatar ?

 

[DangerousInc.]

Excellent News!

 

[dark_b]

until i see thsi in the movie i wont belive it.

from what i have read from nolan and from what i have seen on tv of him....he doesnt use CGI if it can be done practical. and i really doubt that he would made that kind of dent becasue that would nt be for PG-13 IMO.

 

[GUNSLINGER]

until i see thsi in the movie i wont belive it.

from what i have read from nolan and from what i have seen on tv of him....he doesnt use CGI if it can be done practical. and i really doubt that he would made that kind of dent becasue that would nt be for PG-13 IMO.

but it is ok to put that kind of dent in a comic? like they already do TLH. there was a whole lot of cgi in B.B. the whole city was layered and the doors to ra's was the only thing up there. i have seen some pg-13 movies that are a little bit more, hold on a whole lot more grotesque than possibly using cgi to elemenate an ear or show some teeth through the cheek, i am not saying nolan will not use make-up for dent, but that he would use cgi to enhance things that can not be done w/ make-up. like he did in B.B. heck the seen in arkham where batman land on his feet after falling through the bats was CGI that was a digital batman not to mention digital bats. come on.

 

[Antonello Blueberry]

Brandon edited his story.
http://www.filmick.co.uk/2007/08/ive-been-told-by-rock-solid-source-that.html

[EDIT: Actually, my source has read this published post and told me, actually, it's Framestore CFC and I 'misinterpreted their clues' to the FX house. My mistake, and quite a dumb one, really. I could explain the confusion in how I thought they meant one and not the other, but they asked me not to, as it might just reveal who they are...]

But why not make-up, I wonder? The only solid reasons I can think of are all mouth-based - teeth showing through a wound, maybe, or impossible mouth movements. But I don't know for sure. Hopefulyl more info will be forthcoming.

...
[EDIT: And Framestore CFC are similarly excellent, if not more so. Their work on Children of Men is amongst the greatest FX work ever completed. As well as the digital Dent they'll also be creating the virtual set extensions for the Hong Kong scenes and some CG stand-in Batmen]

 

[GUNSLINGER]

Brandon edited his story.
http://www.filmick.co.uk/2007/08/ive-been-told-by-rock-solid-source-that.html

children of men was an awesome visual masterpiece especially the end where it is one long shot, logisticaly speaking that must have been an undertaking

 

[Two-Face]

Cool

 

[Nepenthes]

I don;t understand how people can be against CGI for Two-Face. He's not gonna be Davy friggin Jones. Honestly some CGI is what I always expected, as Luchastyle already pointed out there's many ways it could enhance his appearance and make him more realistic, unique and visually engaging. Or do you want him to look like something from a fan film or 1990's horror movie?

- he can have a bulging eye, with the eye lid burnt away.
- exposed teeth at the back of the jaw, the molars
- bubbling skin in the courtroom scene
- missing flesh under the cheekbone
- exposed tendons and muscles that move when he talks; these are supposed to be under the skin, you can't create them it make-up and except it to look realistic.

 

[Anjow1060]

oh no, not more brandon film ick news.

Booooo.

 

[Mysterio]

From FilmIck: http://www.filmick.co.uk/2007/08/digital-dent.html

I've been told by a rock-solid source that Cinesite in London are to be handling the CG FX for Two Face in The Dark Knight, with their work due to start in earnest in November. I mention this just so you know it isn't an entirely make-up based look.

But why not, I wonder? The only solid reasons I can think of are all mouth-based - teeth showing through a wound, maybe, or impossible mouth movements.

Cinesite are, frankly, brilliant and have a great back catlogue of work - from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory through The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy to Hot Fuzz.




posted by Brendon at 10:51 PM

Sorry if this has been posted already.

filmick has no credibility. none. he should never be cited as a place of reliable information.

 

[Mysterio]

once again, wait till a non-filmick source has something to say about it

the same thing is going to happen as it did with the Riddler crap. someone will email this to latino review or comicbookresource or whoever else. that will in turn be seen as confirmation. then those "reports" will eventually find their way to BOF where it will be treated as gospel.

 

[Wolfman]

CGI Two-Face?

JUUULIEEE!!! I mean... NOOOOOOO!!!
Seriously though, that news seems to be innaccurate, but gives me the chance to post picture of the Darkman. If Two-Face is going to look anything like that, I'm happy. Damn... that's a bit dark picture, but I'm too lazy to fix it.

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

or its to actually show the burning process.

 

[dark_b]

I don;t understand how people can be against CGI for Two-Face. He's not gonna be Davy friggin Jones. Honestly some CGI is what I always expected, as Luchastyle already pointed out there's many ways it could enhance his appearance and make him more realistic, unique and visually engaging. Or do you want him to look like something from a fan film or 1990's horror movie?

- he can have a bulging eye, with the eye lid burnt away.
- exposed teeth at the back of the jaw, the molars
- bubbling skin in the courtroom scene
- missing flesh under the cheekbone
- exposed tendons and muscles that move when he talks; these are supposed to be under the skin, you can't create them it make-up and except it to look realistic.

its a waste of money. i would make that kind of two face where i wouldnt need CGI. that way i would save money and i would not risk so much.

 

[dark_b]

or its to actually show the burning process.

in my opinion if they would use CGI they would use it for the first close up to show us how bad it is. but i doubt that nolan would use CGI for every two face shot. why i think this? because of hte 20 interviews that i read from him.
and i doubt that nolan changed hes mind in hte last 2 years.

 

[Darknightnomis]

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

in my opinion if they would use CGI they would use it for the first close up to show us how bad it is. but i doubt that nolan would use CGI for every two face shot. why i think this? because of hte 20 interviews that i read from him.
and i doubt that nolan changed hes mind in hte last 2 years.

like i said, its probably to show the actual burning.. then practical effects..haven't we received set reports of people who have seen the scarring?

no green marks on his face..so i would say its to show the actual burning when the acid is thrown on him.

 

[SpiderB]

"Their work on Children of Men is amongst the greatest FX work ever completed."

Uhh... no. The CGI in Children of Men was awful. If they are indeed doing some kind of visual effects for Two-Face, then god help us all.

 

[Batman jr.]

CGI Two-Face?

JUUULIEEE!!! I mean... NOOOOOOO!!!
Seriously though, that news seems to be innaccurate, but gives me the chance to post picture of the Darkman. If Two-Face is going to look anything like that, I'm happy. Damn... that's a bit dark picture, but I'm too lazy to fix it.

Woa, is this from the first Darkman ?

 

[Two-Face]

If you read it, Wolfman says it's from Darkman

 

[Nepenthes]

its a waste of money. i would make that kind of two face where i wouldnt need CGI. that way i would save money and i would not risk so much.

Waste of money? It's a WB film! A major franchise! and you're talking about the lead villain here, c'mon. CGI enhancment could be the differecne between an amazing visual and one that is merely so so.

Think about it. How many scarred/burnt/melted characters have we seen on on screen before? DOZENS. Two-Face has to be special and different and more importantly, emotive. Make-up hinders that, and as I pointed out, CGI can *help* create more a more realistic and striking design in many subtle ways.

 

[Batman jr.]

If you read it, Wolfman says it's from Darkman

Yeah yeah, I've read it. But I wanna know if it's from the first film