🇺🇸 Discussion: General Election 2024, 🥥 VS 🍊

[InCali]

What are the latest poll number in the swing states? Who do they favor?

Most polls show Harris with small leads in MI, WI, and PA.

NC, GA, AZ, and NV are mixed, but very close.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Don’t want to go back?

Vote for Harris/Walz and Democrats for Congress.

 

[squeekness]

They care more about Big Pharma's payoffs than people.

 

[DJ Kornphlake]

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Ron Filipkowski: “I’ve listened to about 25 crowd interviews of people at the Trump Town Hall today and I’m convinced they are all either drunk or on pills. This guy started crying and he’s all over the place. I speak fluent MAGA, but he’s tough to follow.”

Getting harder to post videos since everyone casually swears now.

 

[squeekness]

Ron Filipkowski: “I’ve listened to about 25 crowd interviews of people at the Trump Town Hall today and I’m convinced they are all either drunk or on pills. This guy started crying and he’s all over the place. I speak fluent MAGA, but he’s tough to follow.”

Getting harder to post videos since everyone casually swears now.

That's okay, a lot of MAGAts sound like wackos to me.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Meta bans RT days after U.S. accused Russian outlet of disinformation

U.S. officials accused RT last week of carrying out covert information warfare operations around the world as an arm of Russia's spy agencies.

www.nbcnews.com

Russia Takes Aim at Harris Campaign

"Russia is now throwing all of its disinformation resources behind operations designed to undermine the Harris-Walz campaign," Axios reports."Starting in late August, a well-known Russian influence group, called Storm-1516, created and spread two fake videos online to discredit the Harris-Walz c

politicalwire.com

Russian election interference efforts focus on the Harris-Walz campaign

Microsoft’s latest report reveals a strategic shift in Russian influence operations targeting the Harris-Walz campaign with fabricated videos. Learn about the evolving tactics of Russian actors and the broader geopolitical implications involving Iran and China.

blogs.microsoft.com

They lie with their words as anti-abortion rights activists have declared IVF the same as abortion.

 

[InCali]

Meta bans RT days after U.S. accused Russian outlet of disinformation

U.S. officials accused RT last week of carrying out covert information warfare operations around the world as an arm of Russia's spy agencies.

www.nbcnews.com

Russia Takes Aim at Harris Campaign

"Russia is now throwing all of its disinformation resources behind operations designed to undermine the Harris-Walz campaign," Axios reports."Starting in late August, a well-known Russian influence group, called Storm-1516, created and spread two fake videos online to discredit the Harris-Walz c

politicalwire.com

Russian election interference efforts focus on the Harris-Walz campaign

Microsoft’s latest report reveals a strategic shift in Russian influence operations targeting the Harris-Walz campaign with fabricated videos. Learn about the evolving tactics of Russian actors and the broader geopolitical implications involving Iran and China.

blogs.microsoft.com

They lie with their words as anti-abortion rights activists have declared IVF the same as abortion.

That's really weird that Russia would target Harris/Walz because Putin said just the other day that he wanted them to win. How can that be????

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

 

[squeekness]

Grrr!!! Hating this bs! Can't win a real election so disrupt and cheat as much as possible.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

2nd Term Trump: I had to surrender Ukraine and Europe to Russia and Taiwan to China because aren’t nuclear weapons scary?

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

 

[InCali]

There does seem to be a consistent trend of Harris in the lead; both nationally and in blue wall states. Keep an eye on the trends and see if that continues from poll to poll. If those leads hold over the next month, the biggest fear is the methods being used (how data is collected and the corrections) aren't representative of the people who will actually vote.

Trump over performed in 2020 and Dems over performed in 2022. The question I have is whether Trump will drive turnout in 2024 and if 2022 happened because he wasn't on the ballot.

 

[squeekness]

Good. I hope the trend continues and only gets worse for Trump.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Tariffs are import taxes paid by the citizens of the country doing the taxing.

It's bad policy because it would amount to a massive tax increase on the poor and middle class. Tariffs are taxes on foreign goods. If you thought inflation was bad before when it peaked in June 2022 people have seen nothing yet. Sales/flat taxes and tariffs are regressive to consumers unlike progressive income taxes.

MAGA media support Trump's “deranged” plan to use tariffs to replace income tax​

Replacing income tax revenue with tariffs would be a huge lower-income and middle class tax increase

MAGA media support Trump's “deranged” plan to use tariffs to replace income tax

During a June 13 meeting with Republican elected officials on Capitol Hill, disgraced former president, convicted felon, and presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump reportedly floated a proposal for a second term that could involve replacing income taxes with tariffs (taxes on...

www.mediamatters.org

This premise aged like milk:

Opinion: Here’s why Trump will reject a flat tax (April 2024)​

There’s a very simple reason why he’s going to dismiss the idea[: it's unpopular and expensive]​

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/heres-why-trump-will-reject-a-flat-tax-ed447110

Low taxes/tariffs are one thing but a massive hike like Trump wants would be bad.

 

[Lily Adler]

2nd Term Trump: I had to surrender Ukraine and Europe to Russia and Taiwan to China because aren’t nuclear weapons scary?

Everyone is on Ozempic I swear.

 

[Sithborg]

There does seem to be a consistent trend of Harris in the lead; both nationally and in blue wall states. Keep an eye on the trends and see if that continues from poll to poll. If those leads hold over the next month, the biggest fear is the methods being used (how data is collected and the corrections) aren't representative of the people who will actually vote.

Trump over performed in 2020 and Dems over performed in 2022. The question I have is whether Trump will drive turnout in 2024 and if 2022 happened because he wasn't on the ballot.

They supposedly corrected the polls for 2022, and look how that turned out. There is enough volatility that I'm not sure they can fully correct their methods.

 

[InCali]

They supposedly corrected the polls for 2022, and look how that turned out. There is enough volatility that I'm not sure they can fully correct their methods.

This is always.....always the unknown. What statisticians try to do is grab a sample of a particular group; in this case, people who are going to vote and I can tell you it's a really, really difficult thing to do because there are so many factors involved and you don't really know how to weight them. I personally "think" Trump being on the ballot is a Yuge factor, but, TBH, I can't say for sure. I suspect we're somewhere between 2020 and 2022. I also "think" it's entirely possible that some of Trump's marginal supporters feel like he's kind of gone off the rails and may either switch their vote or just bail on the election. Dude seems to be doing everything he can to piss people off and sabotage his chances, but who would have thought he would have gotten as many votes as he did in 2020? I also think that the enthusiasm factor is really important and if Harris can get out the ground game for younger voters, that's gonna be a big deal. That vote could be easily underestimated..

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

The Democrats didn’t campaign and GOTV (get out the vote efforts) like normal in 2020 due to Covid19. Republicans on the other hand did because they didn’t give a ****.

 

[Sithborg]

You can see it at his rallies. His hardest of hardcore supporters are dwindling.

 

[InCali]

The Democrats didn’t campaign and GOTV (get out the vote efforts) like normal in 2020 due to Covid19. Republicans on the other hand did because they didn’t give a ****.

You can see it at his rallies. His hardest of hardcore supporters are dwindling.

I hope to hell that you're both right, but look how many votes were cast in 2020. Both of them got more votes (IIRC) than any other candidate ever.....and not just by a little bit. I think Trump being on the ballot is a big deal because of the idiot idol worship factor, but I also think it's being blunted after 4 years. I have no empirical reason for thinking all of that other than my own take on it.

 

[mclay18]

I’m going to keep it civil, although there are several unkind things I would describe the Huckabeast’s comments that would get me banned…

Sarah, your children will never love your hypocritical ass the way Kamala loves her stepchildren.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Sarah Huckabee Sanders loves kids…to be put to work.

Arkansas is rolling back child labor protections

Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders signed a new bill that will make it easier for children under 16 to get hired.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[blueharvest]

Russia propaganda group behind fake Kamala Harris hit-and-run story, says Microsoft

Microsoft researchers found that the group created a video, paid an actor to appear as the alleged victim, and spread the claim through a fake website

www.theguardian.com

 

[blueharvest]

'So goes Pennsylvania': Inside the Harris-Trump fight for top 2024 battleground

Whether Kamala Harris or Donald Trump wins Pennsylvania in 2024 could come down to the Lehigh Valley and its growing Latino population.

www.usatoday.com