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There's a rumour that Trump's campaign is pondering a significant proposal: replacing income taxes with tarriffs.

I can't tell if that's true or if it would be good or bad policy. But at least we'd be discussing policy in a campaign.
 
It's bad policy because it would amount to a massive tax increase on the poor and middle class. Tariffs are taxes on foreign goods. If you thought inflation was bad before when it peaked in June 2022 people have seen nothing yet. Sales/flat taxes and tariffs are regressive to consumers unlike progressive income taxes.

MAGA media support Trump's “deranged” plan to use tariffs to replace income tax​

Replacing income tax revenue with tariffs would be a huge lower-income and middle class tax increase
www.mediamatters.org

MAGA media support Trump's “deranged” plan to use tariffs to replace income tax

During a June 13 meeting with Republican elected officials on Capitol Hill, disgraced former president, convicted felon, and presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump reportedly floated a proposal for a second term that could involve replacing income taxes with tariffs (taxes on...
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During a June 13 meeting with Republican elected officials on Capitol Hill, disgraced former president, convicted felon, and presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump reportedly floated a proposal for a second term that could involve replacing income taxes with tariffs (taxes on imported goods). Republican attendees later confirmed that Trump had proposed using tariffs (which increase costs for consumers) to cut or even replace income taxes.

Tax and economic policy experts from across the political spectrum criticized Trump's proposal, which could severely disrupt international commerce and the domestic economy while supplanting the United States' existing system of progressive income taxation with regressive consumption taxes.
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MagnarTheGreat said:
www.usatoday.com

Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen knocks Donald Trump after he proposes replacing income tax with tariffs

“The impact would be to make life unaffordable for working class Americans, and it would harm American businesses.”
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However, experts on both sides of the aisle have raised questions about Trump’s policy proposal. For example, a report from the think tank Tax Foundation argued that imposing new tariffs may actually harm working class Americans and risk hitting international trade.
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This premise aged like milk:

Opinion: Here’s why Trump will reject a flat tax (April 2024)​

There’s a very simple reason why he’s going to dismiss the idea[: it's unpopular and expensive]​



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FACT FOCUS: Biden's pause as he left a star-studded LA fundraiser becomes a target for opponents

Members of Biden's campaign say the president stopped to take in cheers as he left a sit-down with former President Barack Obama and comedian Jimmy Kimmel.
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CLAIM: Biden froze onstage during his fundraiser in Los Angeles on Saturday night and had to be led away by Obama.

THE FACTS: Biden paused amid cheers and applause as he exited the stage with his predecessor following an interview moderated by late-night host Kimmel.
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7m10s

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Biden was giving thumbs up to skydivers, not wandering in viral G7 video

Footage shows President Joe Biden give a thumbs up as he motioned over to a group of skydivers.
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Social Media Roasts Trump For Filling ‘Black Church’ Event In Detroit With Mostly White People

Does it still count as a ‘Black church’ event if the crowd is mostly white? That’s the question that many people have been dealing with on social media as they respond to images of an event held by former President Donald Trump as he seeks to reach out to Black voters in this year’s election.
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IMO, Roger Stone has an even worse hair transplant than Donald Trump.
 
squeekness said:
Does Trump have implants or just a really bad comb over? :(
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I'm not 100% sure, but the theory I've read I'm most convinced by is that he got an early-generation hair transplant, from back when the technology wasn't as good.
 
newrepublic.com

MAGA Pushes New Conspiracy to Prep for Trump Losing Biden Debate

Donald Trump’s allies have a new conspiracy theory on the Trump-Biden debate—and it sure sounds like they’re preparing for Trump to lose.
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www.nbcnews.com

Biden ramps up push to end Trump's tax cuts for the wealthy, highlighting the choice in the 2024 election

Biden says that if he is re-elected, he would let the Trump tax cuts expire next year for people who earn over $400,000. Trump and Republicans say they want to extend them.
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Bloomberg - Opinion | I Didn’t Think Biden Affected Crime Rates. I Was Wrong.

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Why Republicans keep ignoring reality about falling crime rates

Reality makes clear that Biden-era crime rates are going down. Republicans keep telling voters to believe that Biden-era crime rates are going up.
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I still think crime is falling because most Americans are employed right now.
 
I fear we're going to have a Trump Presidency for the dumbest possible reason.

The scenario I'm visualizing -- please critique away -- is that Netanyahu believes that there is no possibility that the USA will let Israel fall. So at some point soon, he is going to escalate. He is going to invade Lebanon. The fighting on the Israel/Lebanon weird is actually quite fierce right now.

If Netanyahu invades Lebanon, there is a significant possibility of intervention by Syria and Iran, at which point the USA will be compelled to intervene.

How will American voters respond if an aircraft carrier sinks to the bottom of the red sea two weeks prior to the election?
 
blueharvest said:
That's probably one of the big reasons why crime is falling, honestly.
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Is crime actually falling or just underreported or underprosecuted?

Lots of people are getting away with actions ranging from shoplifting to traffic violations to being deadbeat dads, never mind white collar crime.

Stores like CVS and Safeway can feel awful, so many items are locked behind glass, and they set things up so that you can only leave or enter in specific ways, and the self-checkout machines always accuse you of shoplifting if you place your bananas down at the wrong angle.
 
DA_Champion said:
I fear we're going to have a Trump Presidency for the dumbest possible reason.

The scenario I'm visualizing -- please critique away -- is that Netanyahu believes that there is no possibility that the USA will let Israel fall. So at some point soon, he is going to escalate. He is going to invade Lebanon. The fighting on the Israel/Lebanon weird is actually quite fierce right now.

If Netanyahu invades Lebanon, there is a significant possibility of intervention by Syria and Iran, at which point the USA will be compelled to intervene.

How will American voters respond if an aircraft carrier sinks to the bottom of the red sea two weeks prior to the election?
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I wish this wasn't true, but I can easily see it happen. :(
 
newrepublic.com

Trump Brutally Exposed for Mindblowing Number of Lies in One Speech

Donald Trump made at least 30 false statements during an hour-and-a-half-long speech in Racine, Wisconsin.
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www.salon.com

"Virtually no public information": Trump campaign pays over $3 million to mystery company - Salon.com

The mysterious company with a post box office in North Carolina is not registered in the state, officials say
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www.independent.co.uk

Star of Trump’s first impeachment, Eugene Vindman, wins House primary in Virginia

Vindman was sitting at more than 50 percent when the outcome of primary was declared
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MagnarTheGreat said:
politicalwire.com

Trump Pledges to Restore Student Loan Payments

Donald Trump slammed President Joe Biden’s plans to cancel student loan debt as “vile” and suggested that the program will be “rebuked” if he is elected, The Independent reports. He later blamed student loan relief
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LOL....Fishing for the youth vote.....and, TB fair, it's not just under 30s types who have been victimized by absurd educational costs. Remember the original infrastructure plan Biden supported that cut higher education costs and then got deep sixed by "moderates"? The cost of education is the root problem and these Mudder Fuggs don't even like the band aid. Look, Biden isn't the be all and end all and we need more, but if we can't even take some incremental, positive steps......
 
Trump has no idea how economics work. He's going to break this country beyond repair. :(
 
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