Discussion: Global Warming, Emission Standards, and Other Environmental Issues

[Marx]

Yeah...they really can't seem to catch a break.

 

[SuperFerret]

Man, Australia keeps getting the short end of the stick. Droughts, heat, flooding, typhoons...

... deadly animals of all kinds, proximity to New Zealand, tourists...

 

[imdaly]

Man, Australia keeps getting the short end of the stick. Droughts, heat, flooding, typhoons...

Yeah, but they have those gorgeous blondes with the adorable accents, so they still win.

 

[Marx]

Here is an interesting story (and pictures) of Chernobyl twenty-five years later.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/02/chernobyl-25-years-after-_n_816902.html#s233576

 

[SuBe]

... deadly animals of all kinds, proximity to New Zealand, tourists...

Their toilets flow the other way too!

 

[Hobgoblin]

Newt Gingrich: Abolish the EPA

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/48143.html

Former House speaker and possible 2012 candidate Newt Gingrich called for the abolition of the Environmental Protection Agency in a Tuesday speech in Iowa

In an address at the Renewable Fuels Summit, Gingrich told attendees, including Iowa Gov. Terry Branstad, a key figure in the state’s first-in-nation Republican presidential caucuses, that the EPA should be replaced with a new “Environmental Solutions Agency.”

The replacement agency “would encourage innovation, incentivize success and emphasize sound science and new technology over bureaucracy, regulation, litigation and restrictions on American energy,” according to materials provided by Gingrich aide Rick Tyler.

“We need to have an agency that is first of all limited, but cooperates with the 50 states,” Gingrich told The Associated Press in an interview.” The EPA is based on bureaucrats centered in Washington issuing regulations and litigation and basically opposing things.”

Gingrich also used his speech to challenge President Barack Obama to use his State of the Union address to outline what Gingrich dubbed an “all of the above” energy strategy that would “truly demonstrate he is serious about governing from the center.”

Gingrich’s list of energy policies includes providing incentives for flex fuel vehicles that can use corn-based ethanol rather than gasoline — a key issue for Iowa’s farm economy.

He also won the promise of a key Iowa endorsement if he does run for president. Linda Upmeyer, the Iowa House majority leader, introduced Gingrich and called him “the right guy to be president of the United States.”

After the speech, Upmeyer told the Des Moines Register that she’s a “real fan” of Gingrich who is “pretty likely” to back him if he does run for president.

Also speaking at the Iowa summit was former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, who is also considering a 2012 presidential bid. The appearance is Santorum’s ninth visit to Iowa since the 2008 elections.

Why abolish one federal agency just to replace it with another one? Why not just reset the goals of the EPA?

 

[Marx]

Gingrich doesn't really deal in sense...

 

[Hobgoblin]

After looking at a few quotes of his, I think I agree.

 

[StorminNorman]

Newt Gingrich: Abolish the EPA

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/48143.html



Why abolish one federal agency just to replace it with another one? Why not just reset the goals of the EPA?

It's easier to destroy and rebuild than it is to reduce in Federal Government.

Newt Gingrich is a smart man, but I oppose his EPA strategy. This part in particular is troubling:

Gingrich’s list of energy policies includes providing incentives for flex fuel vehicles that can use corn-based ethanol rather than gasoline — a key issue for Iowa’s farm economy.

This demonstrates either a fundamental misunderstanding of economics or a man willing to use policy to win battle ground states.

 

[Gamma Ray]

http://www.plantsneedco2.org/

Edumacate yourself.

 

[Marx]

According to the AP, BP and Transocean have asked that a federal judge dismiss any claims filed by businesses and other people who say they have been harmed by the gulf oil disaster.

 

[Hobgoblin]

According to the AP, BP and Transocean have asked that a federal judge dismiss any claims filed by businesses and other people who say they have been harmed by the gulf oil disaster.

I guess BP forgot about this little advertisement.


"We will get this done. We will make this right."

 

[StorminNorman]

In my experience as a resident of a Gulf Coast beach town, just about anyone who has not already had the claim accepted likely doesn't have a valid case. They threw money at just about anyone who could come close to indicating spill-related losses.

The majority of the people that would be affected by that move are people scamming the system, like the owners of a coffee shop I worked at prior to moving to DC. They opened in August last year and still hired a lawyer to get BP money. Ridiculous.

 

[Arc-Light]

In my experience as a resident of a Gulf Coast beach town, just about anyone who has not already had the claim accepted likely doesn't have a valid case. They threw money at just about anyone who could come close to indicating spill-related losses.

The majority of the people that would be affected by that move are people scamming the system, like the owners of a coffee shop I worked at prior to moving to DC. They opened in August last year and still hired a lawyer to get BP money. Ridiculous.

Sure...one case doesn't mean they all are....

 

[craigdbfan]

BP oil are the good guys. Give them more free money.

People living in the gulf should just bend down and take it because we all know big oil companies never hurt anything or anyone. How dare they put up lawsuits against these upstanding individuals running this great company which enacts in careless off shore oil drilling.

All those fishermen and the people which live in the gulf shouldn't be worried of corex/oily substance marinating their sea food or beaches.

Long live BP oil and multinationals that couldn't care less about these peoples well being. Thats the spirit!

 

[StorminNorman]

Sure...one case doesn't mean they all are....

Who said anything about one case. I personally know of hundreds of such cases friends or friends of friends who cashed in for several thousand dollars each. The claims process was extremely generous. The handful of people that I know that didn't get cash were ones that were unemployed during the summer or didn't move there until months after the spill.

Hell BP recently decided to double any previously confirmed claims. This was a month after they decided to give every approved claim 5 grand to agree not to sue. That is after those same people received around thousands of dollars with their initial claim.

Think about it, your entire opinion is based off one story you told by a media guy who has likely never even been to the gulf coast. I lived that ****.

 

[8wid]

Eastern cougars no longer exist in eastern part of U.S., report finds

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[craigdbfan]

Millions of Fish wash up in Redondo beach, California

Must be those New Years fireworks still in action...

 

[chaseter]

Free hobo dinners.

 

[craigdbfan]

Winning.

 

[Marx]

Holy ****!

 

[Megalodon]

http://www.plantsneedco2.org/

Edumacate yourself.

You really didn't know that plants need carbon dioxide? Really? This is news to you?

That site is meant to appeal to the small minded and scientifically illiterate. The increased plant biomass will do no good if we continue to harvest at present rates, and about half of the earth's photosynthetic capacity is held within the oceans...and THOSE organisms are DIRECTLY threatened by increases in carbon dioxide.

"Herp-derp, plants grow bigger with more carbon dioxide!"

Gee, do you think? Great, all of our problems are solved.

Except not. Not even remotely.

 

[8wid]

Desert high-speed train applies for $4.9 billion federal loan



So much for the first bullet train in the U.S...

 

[craigdbfan]

I don't think it means its over they just need 4.9 billion in loans so they'll be able to start the darn thing.

This is good.

Having a high speed train at least makes me believe the US hasn't been left to rot while China is being propped up for world successor.

Sigh.

 

[Kelly]

millions of fish wash up in redondo beach, california

must be those new years fireworks still in action...

good lord have mercy....