Discussion: Illegal Immigration, Immigration Reform, and Other Citizenship Issues II

[Schlosser85]

 

[Donner]

Thumbs up for white supremacy.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

'Give me your rich and your white if anybody just like Jesus intended'

 

[Schlosser85]

“If people hate what America is about then they should leave”

 

[Sithborg]

Once again, it was never about "illegal immigration". Its about skin color. Because you can bet your ass they are going to have racist designations predicting who will need welfare.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

“If people hate what America is about then they should leave”

Yep some of my fellow whites are utterly consumed by hatred of others and deny that racism is racism because that's what racists do.

NPR - In Virginia, 2 Churches Feel The Aftermath Of Trump's Racist Rhetoric

Not far away, a sign posted in front of Friendship Baptist Church reads "AMERICA: LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT."

Pastor Earnie Lucas said he posted that message on his church sign several weeks ago. It was around the same time that President Trump tweeted an attack on four Democratic members of Congress — all women of color — saying they should "go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came."

Lucas, 85, is white and has been a pastor in this community for decades. He defends his sign and expresses anger about the response it has received online and in news reports.

"Don't talk to me about that flag out yonder, or that sign out yonder!" he thundered from the pulpit. "This is America! And I love America!"

Lucas asks if anyone in the small, all-white congregation is "from Yankee land." No one raises their hand.

"The letters that came from north of the Mason-Dixon Line, I am sorry to say, those folk don't know how to talk," Lucas said. "You're talking about some vile, wretched language. And where they told me to go, and how long to stay — they were filthy in their conversation."

Lucas said he has gotten threats of violence, even death, since putting up the sign. He also got letters of support, including some donations, from around the country.

Local media initially reported that several members of the congregation had staged a walkout in protest — or out of fear of the backlash. But last weekend, Lucas said most of the regulars had returned.

"I had no ill intent against anyone — around here or in the state of Virginia," Lucas said. "I was talking about people who have come over here illegally and want to tear the place up."

During the service, he mentioned the recent mass shooting in El Paso, Texas, that left 22 people dead. But afterward, he said he doesn't believe news reports that the white shooter was targeting Latinos. Lucas also said he does not believe analyses suggesting that undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit violent crimes than others living in the United States.

Lucas doesn't see his words, or the president's, as racist.

"I think this idea of racism has been blown out of proportion," Lucas said. "I really do. We've got some sorry people, black and white ... but I don't pay any attention to that. If a man comes to me and behaves himself, we get along good together, I'll go to bat for him, any way I can."

Dianne Cook, a member of Lucas' church, says she agrees with the sign's message.

One of Lucas' church members, Dianne Cook, 69, said she agrees with the message on her church sign, and with her pastor. She said Trump was right to criticize the four Democratic congresswomen, who include the first two Muslim women elected to Congress.

"Where'd their parents come from? Are they Americans?" Cook asked. "Just because she was born in America does not make her American."

"Doesn't it?" I asked. "Doesn't it legally, though, under the Constitution?"

"Under the Constitution, yes," Cook acknowledged, then paused. "But I don't know how to express that, to make you understand that I wish she, I wish they, well — I don't want any Muslims in America."

 

[Zarex]

The Immigration Service should put a halt to their torture of vulnerable migrants and do a deep dive into the backgrounds of everyone enjoying not being raided by right wing paramilitary groups in the middle of the night in these United States.

If dear old great grandpappy and grandmammy were not stowaways, involved in the forgery of immigration documents and guilty of identity theft, didn't offer bribes to local and US officials and were not working with organized crime or other unsavory groups AND have a spotless criminal record, their descendants should be allowed to stay.

My family would all be shipped back to Italy. And (at least) tens of millions of others would be sent back with me.

 

[Schlosser85]

“Just because she was born in America does not make her American”

And then when it’s pointed out that, uh, yes it does, she fumbles around and finally says what she really means with the “I don’t want Muslims in America”.

 

[Teelie]

Yep some of my fellow whites are utterly consumed by hatred of others and deny that racism is racism because that's what racists do.

NPR - In Virginia, 2 Churches Feel The Aftermath Of Trump's Racist Rhetoric

The definition of deplorable people.

 

[Schlosser85]

“I don’t want any Muslims in America and even Americans born in America should leave”, but I’ll stand in church every Sunday singing about how God loves everyone.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

 

[Marvolo]

"Public Charge" sounds like some **** Hitler would have issued.

 

[Marvolo]

Yep some of my fellow whites are utterly consumed by hatred of others and deny that racism is racism because that's what racists do.

NPR - In Virginia, 2 Churches Feel The Aftermath Of Trump's Racist Rhetoric

Lucas asks if anyone in the small, all-white congregation is "from Yankee land." No one raises their hand.

"The letters that came from north of the Mason-Dixon Line, I am sorry to say, those folk don't know how to talk," Lucas said. "You're talking about some vile, wretched language. And where they told me to go, and how long to stay — they were filthy in their conversation."

Someone should really tell that old man that the Civil War ended in 1865. Maybe let him know that its 2019.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

'Give me your rich and your white if anybody just like Jesus intended'

 

[Sithborg]

Saying the quiet part out loud, dude...

 

[Sithborg]

Well, can't keep kids like rats, I guess.

 

[Teelie]

Such a tragedy. Children from other countries (especially brown ones) are actually considered human beings by people not in the Trump administration.

 

[Sithborg]

I am just waiting for the reports of the adults doing the abuse...

Claim: Migrant children molested in US-funded foster care

 

[Teelie]

We all should expect that to happen with this anti-immigration ****show going on.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

 

[Sithborg]

One step closer to a final solution.

 

[Marvolo]

And because they are so packed into a small space if even one of them gets the flu from a camp guard it will tear through all of them like wild fire.

This is sadistic.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

edit: wrong post lol

 

[Lily Adler]

And because they are so packed into a small space if even one of them gets the flu from a camp guard it will tear through all of them like wild fire.

This is sadistic.

Remember your stance is un-American.

 

[Teelie]

That version of America should no longer exist.