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Discussion: The DEMOCRATIC P - Part 3

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Thread Manager, May 3, 2018.

  1. MagnarTheGreat Web Ninja

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    Sarah Ferris, Politico: “NEWS: Rep Adam Schiff has decided NOT to seek a leadership post in House Dem caucus and is instead looking more seriously at a Senate run, per multiple sources”
     
  2. squeekness The mighty squeek!

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    Is this good or bad?
     
  3. DJ Kornphlake Registered (P)

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    I'm guessing he's looking to be Feinstein's eventual replacement.
     
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  4. Lily Adler Politically Delicious (she/her)

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    Sure I guess.
     
  5. Teelie Jokerface

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    She is nearly 90. It's time to retire. It was time to retire 20 years ago.
     
  6. Iceman Daffy Duck Vs The Joker

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    Looks like Pelosi is stepping down.
     
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  7. MagnarTheGreat Web Ninja

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    Tara Palmeri: "NEW: On the House floor at noon, Pelosi will say in a speech crafted in part by Jon Meacham that she intends to pass the torch to the next generation of leadership but will stay on as a backbencher to help guide future leader Hakeem Jeffries [D-NY]"
     
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  8. OtherwiseKnownAs We live inside a dream (P)(he/him/his)

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  9. Sithborg Gundam Utena

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    I mean, its clear that she needs to go now. She is not mentally cognizant to be in the Senate.
     
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  10. OtherwiseKnownAs We live inside a dream (P)(he/him/his)

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    Yep, nothing like passing the torch to the next generation by giving it to a 52 year-old man who still isn't in line with the newest generation of voters.
     
  11. Elayis Registered

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    Yep, not like he's much better. He regularly derides the "woke left" side of the party.
     
  12. DKDetective Elementary, Dear Robin (he/him/his)

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    There is nothing wrong with Jeffries based on his age. One's 40s through early 50s is widely acknowledged to be when most persons' experience, energy, and capacity reaches its most potent combination. While people in that age bracket have different concerns from the youngest voters, they are also typically individuals with school age children and therefore more forward thinking than their elders. That is typically speaking the perfect age group for an effective house leader/speaker. Typically speaking, a good house leader or speaker needs to be someone long in Congress to have built working relationships with a variety of different voting blocs and interest groups so as to be able to string together effective voting majorities, etc.

    The bigger and better question is whether Jeffries' thinking and policy positions are progressive and capable effectively responding to the challenges of the day or if he is wedded to same old tired orthodoxy of the Democratic establishment that prevents the party from pushing forward the radical change needed.

    If he is endorsed by Pelosi, I worry he is in the latter camp.
     
  13. MagnarTheGreat Web Ninja

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    Pelosi to Jeffries is a lateral move not for him but for the Dem House Caucus.
     
  14. Sithborg Gundam Utena

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    My big issue is that he is a NY Dem, and they have been the biggest ones fighting those on their left. Frankly, only Schumer seems to acknowledge going leftward of that big group. And NY Dem's incompentency is partly why we lost the House.

    But in other news.



    Frankly, not surprising she is getting a bit of a promotion. In all likelyhood, she is being groomed to be Whitmer's successor. That or Stabenow's.
     
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  15. MagnarTheGreat Web Ninja

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    I'd rather they look to Michigan and Illinois and Colorado for leadership than NY and CA. The reason BOTH parties gravitate to those two states is that they are the financial capitals of the United States.
     
  16. DJ Kornphlake Registered (P)

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  18. Sithborg Gundam Utena

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    The political machine of NY is just plain rotten. That's a big reason why they hate AOC. Not necessarily because of her politics, but that she broke the machine. And continues to threaten to break the machine. And too many Dems from NY are barely disguised Republicans. Looking at you Eric Adams.
     
  19. Lily Adler Politically Delicious (she/her)

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  20. Lily Adler Politically Delicious (she/her)

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    Can someone explain why Dem leadership are from Cali or NY?
     
  21. Teelie Jokerface

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    Short answer is money. The slightly longer answer is money by the donors who have special interests in NY and CA.
     
  22. Lily Adler Politically Delicious (she/her)

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    Interesting to learn Hobbs and I have the same profession. :funny:
     
  23. Sithborg Gundam Utena

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    Most well funded Dems who have the seniority in Congress.



    It also helps that NY's machine politics is still going.
     
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  24. MessiahDecoy123 Psychological Anarchist

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    I can respect Hobb's activism.

    Based on that alone I'd like to see her run for president someday.
     
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