Discussion: The REPUBLICAN Party XIV

[Marvolo]

Nice points...like your style...cited Wiki...too bad, citing Wiki is like citing Infowars. Nearly worthless

Wiki has the links to their sources. Its the little numbers in their articles. Everything I posted has an original source link on the wiki page to a more credible source. This notion that everything on wikipedia is nonsense created in the minds of some group out to subvert the minds and change facts one article at a time is getting old. Truth is most soures compile their info in padded jargon laden exposés. Wiki cuts that crap out and gets to the point. If you want the sources click on the numbers in the wiki article. I mean which do you want? Padded jargon that you have to muddle through or a concise article written by normal people with the points laid out clearly and original sources cited?

As long as wiki provides links to its sources that can be verified it is as credible as any other information provider.

For your peace of mind here is the original sources cited in the wiki article:

Military personel in germany: (Excel Doc...right click...save-as)

"Total Military Personnel and Dependent End Strength By Service, Regional Area, and Country". United States Department of Defense. November 27, 2012. Retrieved December 12, 2012.

United States Bases as of 2012: (PDF File...right click...save as)

DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE
BASE STRUCTURE REPORT
FISCAL YEAR 2012 BASELINE
(A Summary of DoD's Real Property Inventory)

Not so worthless, are they?

 

[Schlosser85]

Nice points...like your style...cited Wiki...too bad, citing Wiki is like citing Infowars. Nearly worthless

Maybe you should try reading those clicky link things in the references at the bottom, annotated by numbers throughout the article.

 

[enterthemadness]

Wiki has the links to their sources. Its the little numbers in their articles. Everything I posted has an original source link on the wiki page to a more credible source. This notion that everything on wikipedia is nonsense created in the minds of some group out to subvert the minds and change facts one article at a time is getting old. Truth is most soures compile their info in padded jargon laden exposés. Wiki cuts that crap out and gets to the point. If you want the sources click on the numbers in the wiki article. I mean which do you want? Padded jargon that you have to muddle through or a concise article written by normal people with the points laid out clearly and original sources cited?

As long as wiki provides links to its sources that can be verified it is as credible as any other information provider.

For your peace of mind here is the original sources cited in the wiki article:

Military personel in germany: (Excel Doc...right click...save-as)

"Total Military Personnel and Dependent End Strength By Service, Regional Area, and Country". United States Department of Defense. November 27, 2012. Retrieved December 12, 2012.

United States Bases as of 2012: (PDF File...right click...save as)

DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE
BASE STRUCTURE REPORT
FISCAL YEAR 2012 BASELINE
(A Summary of DoD's Real Property Inventory)

Not so worthless, are they?

Oh my goodness, I got you to go on a rant. I was making a joke. . although to be fair, I did honestly forget about those tiny blue citations and what not, but I was making a joke! I compared Wiki to a conspiracy news website that sells fear! And you thought I was serious serious.

Maybe you should try reading those clicky link things in the references at the bottom, annotated by numbers throughout the article.

See, See, Schlosser85 knows. maybe the other 84 Schlosser's also know.

 

[Pink Ranger]

See, See, Schlosser85 knows. maybe the other 84 Schlosser's also know.

The Schlossers were created by man. They evolved. They rebelled. There are many copies. And they have a plan ...

 

[Kelly]

Paul Ryan: Hillary Clinton Would Have 'Fixed This Fiscal Mess' (VIDEO)

*double take*

 

[Marvolo]

Oh my goodness, I got you to go on a rant. I was making a joke. . although to be fair, I did honestly forget about those tiny blue citations and what not, but I was making a joke! I compared Wiki to a conspiracy news website that sells fear! And you thought I was serious serious.



See, See, Schlosser85 knows. maybe the other 84 Schlosser's also know.

Lol you caught me at a bad moment.

 

[souvlaki]

Paul Ryan: Hillary Clinton Would Have 'Fixed This Fiscal Mess' (VIDEO)

*double take*

If he runs in 2016 and Hillary runs as well, this is going to majorly bite him in the butt before he even gets through the primary

 

[Kelly]

If he runs in 2016 he won't make it to the final 2....so doesn't really matter.

 

[Victarion]

Paul Ryan didn't strike me as candidate material, and neither does Jindal. He's basically gutting Louisiana in terms of the education system and budget cuts to the universities as well as mental health facilities. I would not vote for him, though I share his opinion of the Republican Party.

 

[SV Fan]

 

[Thundercrack85]

Hillary this, Hillary that. I'm not so sold on her chances to secure the nomination. Especially if Joe Biden is running, which really, is seeming less farfetched every day.

And then there's Andrew Cuomo. The Democratic Party's answer to Mitt Romney.

This is going to be an interesting race.

As for Jindal, why not? Republicans have been getting a lot of flak for their lack of diversity. And he's better than anyone they had running in 2008 (not that that's saying a whole lot).

 

[Kelly]

I think I would actually look at moving to Canada if Andrew Cuomo became President....I have never said that before. : /

 

[Pink Ranger]

I think I would actually look at moving to Canada if Andrew Cuomo became President....I have never said that before. : /

You'd like it here: our football players only get 3 downs, and they makes less money than teachers.

 

[wiegeabo]

You'd like it here: our football players only get 3 downs, and they makes less money than teachers.

Plus the Buffalo Bills might be moving to Toronto. So you'll have real football there too (or as close as the Bills can get).

 

[Kelly]

The Republican party platform for 2012 was far too extreme for the electorate.

The Electorate DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY PLATFORM WAS.....lol...they wouldn't know what you were talking about if you said "party platforms"....they would say, oh yeah, I have some 5 inch ones.

All they knew is what they saw in political ads and heard on mainstream news outlets...they knew that Romney put is dog on top of the car. THAT IS ALL....

To think that this electorate actually knows what these candidates TRULY STOOD FOR....is naive at best.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

Paul Ryan: Hillary Clinton Would Have 'Fixed This Fiscal Mess' (VIDEO)

*double take*

So the republicans would've actually worked with the President if it was Hillary, not just use the plan of blocking everything to make him look bad?

 

[Bathead]

So the republicans would've actually worked with the President if it was Hillary, not just use the plan of blocking everything to make him look bad?

Why certainly. And, if you believe that, I have a bridge for sale ...

 

[Kelly]

So the republicans would've actually worked with the President if it was Hillary, not just use the plan of blocking everything to make him look bad?

Um, I think what they are saying is they could have worked with her policy? Probably much the way the Republicans did with her husband. It is amazing how people automatically "take it personally, for this President" when people disagree with him, rather than actually looking at his policy and thinking...that actually may be it. Now, what Mitch said about making him a 1 term President....oh yeah, extremely stupid. But, I don't know that I would equate what he said with what EVERYONE IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY thinks....

And um, not working together, a 2 way street. Obama doesn't return calls either.....

 

[Marx]

I have a very hard time believing the GOP would work will Hillary either. As far as Paul Ryan goes, I think his chances at successfully running for president are zero.

 

[Kelly]

I have a very hard time believing the GOP would work will Hillary either. As far as Paul Ryan goes, I think his chances at successfully running for president are zero.

See, I think you are coming from the wrong direction. I think SHE would have worked WITH THEM more...I do not believe FOR ONE MINUTE, that Hillary Clinton would have spoke to McCain like Obama did in the Obamacare "on camera" committee meetings. I don't think that she would have made statements like, "we have the keys now, they need to get in the back...", or "if they bring a knife, we'll bring a gun...." I don't think she would have blamed EVERYTHING on someone else, usually the Republicans, and I think THOSE SIMPLE THINGS, would have made it much easier for the Republicans to be a part of the debate.

Of course we will never know, unless she runs and wins....but that is my opinion on it.

 

[SV Fan]

"if they bring a knife, we'll bring a gun...."

And the Republicans are trying saying Obama hates guns. lol

All that being said while Obama can be passive aggressive at times, it's hard having any debate with a bunch of guys that when you put out legislation that they were backing just years ago, that they go out of their way to put the kibosh on. It became to the point of being comedic when you would see the Republicans squish something that they just pushed like a month before when Obama went out of his way to agree.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Well, there is that old expression, only Nixon could go to China.

...I guess Hillary would be Nixon and the Republicans China.

 

[Schlosser85]

I'm not sure that's an accurate comparison. A lot of Republicans, including McCain, have significantly more respect for Hillary than they do for Obama.

I wouldn't mind voting for her.

I don't see Biden or Paul Ryan even getting nominations.

 

[Kelly]

And the Republicans are trying saying Obama hates guns. lol

All that being said while Obama can be passive aggressive at times, it's hard having any debate with a bunch of guys that when you put out legislation that they were backing just years ago, that they go out of their way to put the kibosh on. It became to the point of being comedic when you would see the Republicans squish something that they just pushed like a month before when Obama went out of his way to agree.

Gingrich liked the mandate, he was not speaking for all Republicans, by a long shot...there were many that were royally pissed at him then.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I'm not sure that's an accurate comparison. A lot of Republicans, including McCain, have significantly more respect for Hillary than they do for Obama.

I wouldn't mind voting for her.

I don't see Biden or Paul Ryan even getting nominations.

Who do you think Obama would support more in a 2016 run Biden or Hillary?