Discussion: The REPUBLICAN Party XI

[danoyse]

It is trivial, both instances; calling Palin would be asinine as well, I DON'T what him calling anyone. I believe that no one should be called, understand?

But you were asking earlier why he didn't call over Maher's comments:

If Obama believes the comments made by Rush, were inappropriate enough to warrant a phone call by the President of the US, why is the same not done for someone of the opposing political side?

He doesn't care what Liberal pundits/commentators/comedians/etc. say, and he's no mediator. He only gets involved when it benefits him.

Like when Sarah Palin quit being governor of Alaska? Who did that benefit? The people of her state elected her to do a job, and she walked out on them for her own benefit. She'll complain (and rightly so) when she or someone in her family is slandered, but she'll do photo ops with Ted Nugent, who said disgusting things about women? That she won't condemn Rush for the things that he said about Sandra Fluke? That she wouldn't condemn Rush for calling people "******s" when she flew into a rage a week earlier when Rahm Emmanuel used the same word? That she demanded David Letterman be fired for a joke about her daughter but is only now calling for Bill Maher's head?

Obama is a politician running for president. The loudest mouthpiece for the Republican party spent three days calling a private citizen a ****e (not to mention slandered all the female students at Georgetown), and while that party tried to pretend it didn't happen, he took the opportunity to reach out and talk to her.

The question is...why didn't anyone else who wants that job in White House try to do the same?

Other networks did not report (on this level) any comments made by Maher, against Sarah Palin, in the past.

Also, they were not covering the obvious hypocrisy of our president.

Both things, Fox News did first.

Remember, Sarah Palin is an example, not the focus.

No, they're dragging a story back into focus so they won't have to talk about the actual story.

You really think Bill Maher hasn't had to pay for the consequences of his actions? He lost a show over comments he made after 9/11. If this show wasn't on HBO, he'd have lost that show too for the name-calling he does.

Rush, in the meantime, has spent years demeaning people in so many offensive ways and has never lost his show.

And you're really going to play the "the media never pays attention to Bill Maher!" card?

If networks reported every time Bill Maher said an offensive word over a public figure, there would be no room left for the rest of the news. Sarah Palin is not a princess from on high that is exempt from criticism, especially when she's devoted the last few years of her career to being a blithering idiot.

Fox News is the highest-rated cable news network in the country. They are the media. They can't go acting like they're some helpless little channel that doesn't its news stories noticed.

Agreed, please read my comments in their entirety.

I have. And you keep changing them every time you get proven wrong.

 

[danoyse]

Now he works for HBO. If Rush had said this on HBO... none of this would be happening now.

Well, they could encourage people to cancel their HBO subscriptions...

...but season 2 of Game of Thrones is about to start.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Exactly!

"Ahhh.. that was a great episode of Game of Thrones."
"Next on HBO... the New Rush Limbaugh Show!!!"


"... aaaaaand click."


Don't watch what you don't like, I always say.

 

[floreairfoot]

I will agree that fox was the only network to call maher out when he actually was a dick in the past, that since they did they should be cool when other people do the same for rush. It's a double edged sword there, flore.

Yea, and who else? No one, that's my whole point.

On the other side, for the scrutiny of Rush, we've got countless celebrities (including talk shows hots like The View), MSNBC, ABC, the Obama administration, so called "women's rights" groups, and the list goes on.

Clear difference.

 

[moraldeficiency]

Yea, and who else? No one, that's my whole point.

On the other side, for the scrutiny of Rush, we've got countless celebrities (including talk shows hots like The View), MSNBC, ABC, the Obama administration, so called "women's rights" groups, and the list goes on.

Clear difference.

Eh, to be fair rush is a much bigger celebrity and he did go after a pretty much non-public figure.

 

[moraldeficiency]

Exactly!

"Ahhh.. that was a great episode of Game of Thrones."
"Next on HBO... the New Rush Limbaugh Show!!!"


"... aaaaaand click."


Don't watch what you don't like, I always say.

Don't you ever use rush and game of thrones in the same post again even ironically. You have been warned.

 

[SV Fan]

Yea, and who else? No one, that's my whole point.

On the other side, for the scrutiny of Rush, we've got countless celebrities (including talk shows hots like The View), MSNBC, ABC, the Obama administration, so called "women's rights" groups, and the list goes on.

Clear difference.

I know I am repeating myself but....

Rush's importance in the Republican party is far greater then Maher's role in the Democrat party. You can't deny that. The second the Democrats invite Maher to be a honorary member of Congress then they take ownage of anything he says. As it stands Rush is a big voice for the republican party while Maher is more of a voice doing his own thing who happens to have liberal views

 

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[Thundercrack85]

Rick Santorum is now saying the Netherlands puts thousands of old people to death against their will every year. And then he went on to tell a story about how old Dutch people wear "don't euthanize me bracelets". I don't think he understands what voluntary euthanasia is. Or that the Netherlands has better healthcare than the US.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn-eejMcmuA

The Dutch are apparently pissed.

 

[floreairfoot]

Sarah Palin has deserved nearly ALL of the criticism that she received during the 2008 election season and up through now.

Your comment just proved my point, it's all an opinion.

So for Obama to play the moral mediator, when he obviously doesn't care (shown to us by past decisions), is hilarious.

She crossed the line and took political rhetoric to dangerous and irresponsible levels. She is a truly disgusting human being.

Wow, Bill Maher?

 

[SV Fan]

The View? Hasselbeck called him out on the show in November.

Man does she hold a grudge. What he said about her wasn't even that bad(basically he made a joke that they should exchange a hostage who was good looking with Elizabeth Hassleback).

Something about her annoyed me the first time I saw her on Survivor, and when she started doing the View I was happy to see I was right.

On a side note how can this be part 9, if the last thread was part 10. lol

 

[floreairfoot]

Rick Santorum is now saying the Netherlands puts thousands of old people to death against their will every year. And then he went on to tell a story about how old Dutch people wear "don't euthanize me bracelets". I don't think he understands what voluntary euthanasia is. Or that the Netherlands has better healthcare than the US.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn-eejMcmuA

The Dutch are apparently pissed.

Not enough time in the day.

 

[floreairfoot]

I have. And you keep changing them every time you get proven wrong

No, I haven't done that once.

You're unable to differentiate questions from statements. I've tried to help several times.

 

[WildcatNC]

Anytime you bring up American health care you have to make distinctions between the kind of care that the really rich get, and the kind that the rest of us get. There is some cross care in certain cases but thats the exception.

If you compare American health care to other countries you have to specify. The care that our rich people get is second to none.

The care most of us get isn't so difficult to top in a modernized nation.

 

[Thundercrack85]

You can tell Rick Santorum really has his finger on the pulse of the nation. The threat facing America no one is talking about? Smut.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/14/v...-catch-internet-porn-viewers-with-pants-down/

 

[SV Fan]

You can tell Rick Santorum really has his finger on the pulse of the nation. The threat facing America no one is talking about? Smut.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/14/v...-catch-internet-porn-viewers-with-pants-down/

Just what we need, the War on Porn

Maybe if he becomes President, his wife can take up the issue of Just say no to porn

 

[Arc-Light]

Next Santy would want to burn witches at the stake.....

 

[DBryan]

Your comment just proved my point, it's all an opinion.

So for Obama to play the moral mediator, when he obviously doesn't care (shown to us by past decisions), is hilarious.



Wow, Bill Maher?

You're being ridiculous.

One situation is a false analogy of the other for multiple reasons, which have been pointed out.

Sarah Palin was the vice Presidential nominee. She was holding interviews with major networks, she was on the campaign trail giving speeches, she was quite literally ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS POLITICAL FIGURES IN THE WORLD.

She is more fair game for criticism than a woman who gave one testimony to a congressional hearing on women's health issues.

I'm not saying Sandra Fluke is beyond criticism.

I'm saying that there are MULTIPLE reasons why the situations are so very, very different.

Palin has a wealth of public comments that affected political discourse, and she continues to do so. Fluke gave one testimony.

If you do not see that the two situations are not analogous, it is because you don't want to.

I am sick to death of the projection of the right wing. I am sick to death of the martyrdom and victimhood of the right wing. Poor Sarah Palin. Give me a break.

Sarah gives as good as she gets. Besides blowing off Limbaugh, I can't think of a mean word Sandra Fluke has said about anyone publicly.

Sarah was a governor and the vice presidential nominee. She can take it. Obama has taken that, and worse. It's to be expected when you're so close to the highest office.

 

[Hotwire]

Next Santy would want to burn witches at the stake.....

Shut up! Don't give him ideas!

 

[floreairfoot]

You're being ridiculous.

One situation is a false analogy of the other for multiple reasons, which have been pointed out.

Sarah Palin was the vice Presidential nominee. She was holding interviews with major networks, she was on the campaign trail giving speeches, she was quite literally ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS POLITICAL FIGURES IN THE WORLD.

She is more fair game for criticism than a woman who gave one testimony to a congressional hearing on women's health issues.

I'm not saying Sandra Fluke is beyond criticism.

I'm saying that there are MULTIPLE reasons why the situations are so very, very different.

Palin has a wealth of public comments that affected political discourse, and she continues to do so. Fluke gave one testimony.

If you do not see that the two situations are not analogous, it is because you don't want to.

I am sick to death of the projection of the right wing. I am sick to death of the martyrdom and victimhood of the right wing. Poor Sarah Palin. Give me a break.

Sarah gives as good as she gets. Besides blowing off Limbaugh, I can't think of a mean word Sandra Fluke has said about anyone publicly.

Sarah was a governor and the vice presidential nominee. She can take it. Obama has taken that, and worse. It's to be expected when you're so close to the highest office.

Sandra Fluke put her face into the public view, that was a choice. 1 time or 100, it's done.

Again, Liberals aren't truly upset with the language used (that's clear, from past comments), and they don't care about Sandra Fluke. She's simply a tool for them to use.

Rush is being singled out because he's a conservative commentator, that's it.

 

[WildcatNC]

Shut up! Don't give him ideas!

Oh don't worry about it. You won't get any ideas in there that aren't already there. Like most fanatics he's got an idea resistant mind.


He's certainly already got Witch burning among his priorities though. He needs to just go be the mayor of the town in Footloose and call it a day.

 

[DACrowe]

You can tell Rick Santorum really has his finger on the pulse of the nation. The threat facing America no one is talking about? Smut.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/14/v...-catch-internet-porn-viewers-with-pants-down/

The issue that's on all Americans' minds. The unsatisfying economy? An unwanted war potentially brewing with Iran? A need for new energy alternatives? Curbing the national debt?

Nope. To Santorum the pressing issue of the day is porn.

This is why he can never win. Not in the general, in any case.

 

[WildcatNC]

The issue that's on all Americans' minds. The unsatisfying economy? An unwanted war potentially brewing with Iran? A need for new energy alternatives? Curbing the national debt?

Nope. To Santorum the pressing issue of the day is porn.

This is why he can never win. Not in the general, in any case.

If people thought the "occupy" movement was crazy before, wait till you take away peoples porn.

 

[DACrowe]

Your comment just proved my point, it's all an opinion.

So for Obama to play the moral mediator, when he obviously doesn't care (shown to us by past decisions), is hilarious.



Wow, Bill Maher?

If you're upset about people complaining about her having expensive clothes or the early criticisms of her not having Trig, attacking her daughter, etc. I can understand somewhat.

But the claims that Palin was incompetent, dangerously ignorant, narcissistic and dangerous are all very true and that's most the criticism. She didn't know anything about foreign policy, non-energy domestic policy or history. Instead of trying to learn she'd shutdown and blame the "liberal media" for expecting her to have basic knowledge about how the world works. She'd dabble in rhetoric that insinuated the first black man running for president was a terrorist. She used gun related language and imagery to attack House Democrats including one who was later shot in the head.

She is an ignorant and petty woman. There is nothing sexist about pointing that out. And most have without using Maher's language so your point is lost.

 

[Schlosser85]

Qft