Disney's Frozen - Part 1

[X Knight]

As Queen of Arendelle, Elsa takes the concerns of her subjects very seriously. So, whenever someone comes up to her with a problem, she imparts to them this sage piece of advice:

Spoiler

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[ThePowerCosmic]

 

[X Knight]

lol

 

[Loki882]

wait......they're showing Little Mermaid on the Disney Channel??!!

you mean.........and actual Disney animated classic on the Disney Channel??!!

and not the other crap they normally show??

They show other Disney Renaissance movies all the time. I've seen Hunchback, Tarzan, Beauty and the Beast, Lilo and Stich, etc on their quite a lot. Ironically, the one film that they DON'T show often is Little Mermaid. They've also started showing Pixar films as well.

 

[X Knight]

They show other Disney Renaissance movies all the time. I've seen Hunchback, Tarzan, Beauty and the Beast, Lilo and Stich, etc on their quite a lot. Ironically, the one film that they DON'T show often is Little Mermaid. They've also started showing Pixar films as well.

Holy crap!! I had no idea!!

lol

well good for them.

 

[Octoberist]

Do you guys think John Lassenter was shifting his attention towards Disney Animation so much that Pixar got hurt in the process? Or is it the opposite, where John was so distracted by Pixar leaving Disney Animation with more freedom? Kinda like how back in the 90's, the execs were focusing so much on Pocahontas as the priority, and saw The Lion King as the B-Team movie. Irony.

Speaking A and B Teams, starting in 2016, Disney Animation will release TWO animated films per year, a model that Pixar will adapt in 2015, with Dreamworks in 2014. Keep in mind that every OTHER year, Disney Animation will release the films. (2014, 2016,2018) while Pixar will TRY to continue annually (except for 2014).

How will that affect the Oscar noms*? There will be causalities. There will be 'VS' debates. And if you think about it, it'll wear each studio pretty thin, especially Pixar who is experiencing some stumbling blocks. Normal, but it's sign that they need to slow it down and regroup. Personally, I think Pixar will soon go back to one movie a year if The Good Dinosaur doesn't work out. Too much on one plate.

*I like the idea of having two animation categories: One for the Americans; and the other for Foreign. It'll give amazing studios like Ghibli a chance to win something.

 

[Drizzle]

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Dude...

 

[X Knight]

so how much realistically do you think this can make this Mon-Thurs?

 

[Quasimod0]

I loved the designs for Elsa and Anna's faces. There were great little details that made them look different and gave them personality. Especially elsa

 

[Spade]

This was a thoughtfully made movie. Strong and likeable female leads, a good song in Let It Go, witty comic relief (the good kind), eye-catching aesthetics with the ice sculptures, no knight-in-shining armor cliches...even the message was a good one. I only had two problems with it- the shot sequences and the twist towards the end. They were a little too conservative with the shots, so there's a lot of scenes that play out "medium two shot, over the shoulder, two shot, OTS, repeat, repeat, scene." So it made some of the dialogue heavier parts feel too familiar. As for the twist:

Spoiler

It's cool that Prince Hans wasn't her true love. Still, why did he need to go so far in the other direction? I was really interested in seeing how they would maturely handle his unrequited love after he kept promise to protect her people, and instead, he went mustache twirlingly evil. Although they made his turn play into a rather sweet cure for Anna's condition, I was disappointed they felt a need for a villain for this when there was a natural preexisting conflict between Anna, Elsa's company, and those who treated her like a monster.

Besides those two nitpicks, it's otherwise one of the best Disney films I've seen in a while. Same goes for the Get a Horse short before it. Good stuff all around.

 

[smashmode]

Elsa!!!

Let that hair down girl!

Anyways, I wonder what princess Disney could do next..running out of fairy tale princesses/

 

[DACrowe]

Do you guys think John Lassenter was shifting his attention towards Disney Animation so much that Pixar got hurt in the process? Or is it the opposite, where John was so distracted by Pixar leaving Disney Animation with more freedom? Kinda like how back in the 90's, the execs were focusing so much on Pocahontas as the priority, and saw The Lion King as the B-Team movie. Irony.

Speaking A and B Teams, starting in 2016, Disney Animation will release TWO animated films per year, a model that Pixar will adapt in 2015, with Dreamworks in 2014. Keep in mind that every OTHER year, Disney Animation will release the films. (2014, 2016,2018) while Pixar will TRY to continue annually (except for 2014).

How will that affect the Oscar noms*? There will be causalities. There will be 'VS' debates. And if you think about it, it'll wear each studio pretty thin, especially Pixar who is experiencing some stumbling blocks. Normal, but it's sign that they need to slow it down and regroup. Personally, I think Pixar will soon go back to one movie a year if The Good Dinosaur doesn't work out. Too much on one plate.

*I like the idea of having two animation categories: One for the Americans; and the other for Foreign. It'll give amazing studios like Ghibli a chance to win something.

I would not venture to guess what is going on at Pixar. It is indeed very strange.

However, it is apparent that Lasseter has had a good effect at Walt Disney Animation Studios. While, I think his putting Randy Newman in charge of writing the songs for Princess and the Frog was a bad move (as was blaming that movie's financial misgivings on hand drawn), Disney Animation has found its voice in the 21st century.

While I would never dare give Katzenberg the credit he thinks he deserves in his head (after all, it was he who greenlit Pocahontas), it is clear that after Katzenberg left and Frank Wells died in a tragic crash that Michael Eisner could not find good management in himself or others to steer Disney Animation. For the first time in over a decade, one can look at 2009 until now and realize that they finally have a course plotted and wind at their sails.

 

[DACrowe]

This was a thoughtfully made movie. Strong and likeable female leads, a good song in Let It Go, witty comic relief (the good kind), eye-catching aesthetics with the ice sculptures, no knight-in-shining armor cliches...even the message was a good one. I only had two problems with it- the shot sequences and the twist towards the end. They were a little too conservative with the shots, so there's a lot of scenes that play out "medium two shot, over the shoulder, two shot, OTS, repeat, repeat, scene." So it made some of the dialogue heavier parts feel too familiar. As for the twist:

Spoiler

It's cool that Prince Hans wasn't her true love. Still, why did he need to go so far in the other direction? I was really interested in seeing how they would maturely handle his unrequited love after he kept promise to protect her people, and instead, he went mustache twirlingly evil. Although they made his turn play into a rather sweet cure for Anna's condition, I was disappointed they felt a need for a villain for this when there was a natural preexisting conflict between Anna, Elsa's company, and those who treated her like a monster.

Besides those two nitpicks, it's otherwise one of the best Disney films I've seen in a while. Same goes for the Get a Horse short before it. Good stuff all around.

I am fine with how that played out. The "mature" angle is also a bit of a cliche in itself in romcoms. Think anything starring Reese Witherspoon, Sandra Bullock or even Disney's own Enchanted.

Sometimes, that really dreamy guy can be a real *****ebag if she gets to know him for longer than five minutes.

I thought it worked.

 

[X Knight]

wasn't Katzenberg the guy who wanted to cut "Part of Your World" from Little Mermaid?

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

 

[X Knight]

^^ nice!! t:t:t:

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

I thought you'd enjoy that.

 

[Octoberist]

wasn't Katzenberg the guy who wanted to cut "Part of Your World" from Little Mermaid?

Now he's the 'genius' who is running Dreamworks. Not that Dreamworks doesn't offer anything great, but I don't like the fact that he's a guy who mismanaged Disney back in the 80's and clear didn't understand or respect the industry. And it's only years later..after the fact, he comes off as an innovator. As a man of who helped changed the animation industry. He's a total snake who made Eisner look reasonable back then. And for whatever reason, Eisner went off the deep end in the late 90's/early 2000's with his crap.

 

[TheVileOne]

According to Bill Farmer, Katzenberg tried to force him to change his voice of Goofy for the Goofy movie. Eisner was the one that put a stop to that.

Just saying. Eisner wasn't always the bad guy.

 

[DACrowe]

I mean obviously the genius of movies like The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, etc. were from a creative side. The Howard Ashmans, Alan Menkens, the Ron Clements, and John Muskers. Not to mention the countless animated and vocal talents that went into those films.

However, I will give credit to the Eisner regime in the late '80s and early '90s to a degree as well. While it is clear that none of them exactly understood the creative personalities and had weaker success on their own merits after that period, with Katzenberg at DreamWorks Animation and Eisner running Walt Disney Studios Animation into the ground in the early 2000s. Still, it was their desire to see Disney become competitive again and pushing--notably after they saw the success of Who Framed Roger Rabbit--that helped create the environment which spurned the Disney Renaissance. And Frank Wells may deserve a lot of credit as well, because while he was COO, he also served as the mediator for all the executives and top creative producers in that period.

 

[Zeus]

Fantastic film! I really dug it...The characters are great and the storyline is wonderful. I bet it gets a sequel...I liked Tangled, but this was funnier and I think adults will enjoy it as much as kids.

 

[smashmode]

 

[X Knight]

^^yes!!!!

Elsa's so beautiful even when she's sad........

 

[X Knight]

I thought you'd enjoy that.

OMG!! It's like you totally read my mind.

It's almost as if Our.Men.Tal.Syn.Chro.Ni.Za.Tion.Can.Have.But.One.Ex.Pla.Na.Tion.