Do you support the death penalty

[Franklin Richards]

You need to read the Bible again, you dullard. The New Testament.

 

[JC Denton]

Are you saying an omnipotent being, one that knows everything in advance, and therefore could be presented with no new information in any given scenario, has had a change of heart? You need to check your faith out a little more closely, you "dullard".

 

[Wiseman]

all you Christians need to ask yourself...

What Would Jesus Do?

Are you talking about the Savior or the puerto-rican down the street from me?

 

[JC Denton]

Either will do.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Are you saying an omnipotent being, one that knows everything in advance, and therefore could be presented with no new information in any given scenario, has had a change of heart? You need to check your faith out a little more closely, you "dullard".

I'm an atheist. Check Mate.

 

[JC Denton]

So am I....Check Mate, I guess

 

[Franklin Richards]

Crimes that deserved the death in the Old Testament

According to Numb 35:31 there are criminals which "deserves to die". In the Old Testament the following crimes deserved the death penalty:

1. Murder (Gen 9:6, Ex 21:12, Numb 35:16-21).

2. Abuse of father or mother (Ex 21:15).

3. Speaking a curse over parents (Ex 21:17).

4. Blasphemy against God (Lev 24:14-16,23).

5. Breaking the Sabbath (Ex 31:14, Numb 15:32-36).

6. Practicing magic (Ex 22:18).

7. Fortune telling and practicing sorcery (Lev 20:27).

8. Religious people who mislead others to fall away (Deut 13:1-5, 18:20).

9. Adultery and fornication (Lev 20:10-12, Deut 22:22).

10. If a woman has intercourse before marriage (Deut 22:20-21).

11. If two people have intercourse when one of them is engaged. (Deut 22:23-24).

12. The daughter of a priest practicing prostitution (Lev 21:9).

13. Rape of someone who is engaged (Deut 22:25).

14. Having intercourse with animals (Ex 22:19).

15. Worshipping idols (Ex 22:20, Lev 20:1-5, Deut 17:2-7).

16. Incest (Lev 20:11-12, 14, 19-21).

17. Homosexuality (Lev 20:13).

18. Kidnapping (Ex 21:16).

19. To bear false testimony at a trial (Deut 19:16, 19).

20. Contempt of court (Deut 17:8-13).

The manner of execution in the Old Testament could be stoning, burning, using a sword, spear or arrow (Lev 20:27, 21:9, Ex 19:13, 32:27, Numb 25:7-8).

 

[JC Denton]

Incredibly relevant for todays world

 

[smeagol4prez]

14. Having intercourse with animals (Ex 22:19).

God damn it all to hell, looks like i'm in for the death penalty.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Incredibly relevant for todays world

Are you saying an omnipotent being, one that knows everything in advance, and therefore could be presented with no new information in any given scenario, has had a change of heart? You need to check your faith out a little more closely, you "dullard".

 

[Wiseman]

God damn it all to hell, looks like i'm in for the death penalty.

Along with most people from Alabama, don't worry about it

 

[JC Denton]

What? I was being sarcastic with the "Incredibly relevant" part you know

 

[BT18]

Yes

 

[Sandman138]

The presence of more dangerously unstable individuals leads to a more stable society? Perhaps you should invest in an English dictionary, so avoid making so obvious a mistake in the future.

Human beings are dangerously unstable creatures at the individual level anyways. That is why we form societies, to rid ourselves of the undesirable traits of our individual shortcomings. We exist to comprimise our own notion of identity for the good of the group (republic). Point being that for this to work, there has to be a system for the "group" to have control over the individual, we call it government. Now, there are many ways for a government to controll its population (sorry for the review, but I kind of feel its nessecary to work in steps here). In a Tyranny or Police State, government has no need to comprimise with its public because information is limited to what the government allows and enforcing their will through brute strength is always an option. However, in a democracy it becomes imperritive that the government comprimise with the population as it is the public who has final control over the governments range of infulence (idealy). Thus it becomes imperitive that trust is set up between the government and it's citizens. Every exception or contradiction of ideals set forth by the government is a danger to that fragile trust. The fact that the death penalty has already created voices of dissent (just look on this thread) proves my point. Dealing with the criminal element has always been tricky for societies because it is a test of our convictions. It has also been a key element to the break down of societies (look at any failed Utopia and you will usually see this phenomonon). I don't beleive the death penalty is a benificial way to deal with such criminal element.

 

[GunBlade]

Crimes that deserved the death in the Old Testament

According to Numb 35:31 there are criminals which "deserves to die". In the Old Testament the following crimes deserved the death penalty:

1. Murder (Gen 9:6, Ex 21:12, Numb 35:16-21).

2. Abuse of father or mother (Ex 21:15).

3. Speaking a curse over parents (Ex 21:17).

4. Blasphemy against God (Lev 24:14-16,23).

5. Breaking the Sabbath (Ex 31:14, Numb 15:32-36).

6. Practicing magic (Ex 22:18).

7. Fortune telling and practicing sorcery (Lev 20:27).

8. Religious people who mislead others to fall away (Deut 13:1-5, 18:20).

9. Adultery and fornication (Lev 20:10-12, Deut 22:22).

10. If a woman has intercourse before marriage (Deut 22:20-21).

11. If two people have intercourse when one of them is engaged. (Deut 22:23-24).

12. The daughter of a priest practicing prostitution (Lev 21:9).

13. Rape of someone who is engaged (Deut 22:25).

14. Having intercourse with animals (Ex 22:19).

15. Worshipping idols (Ex 22:20, Lev 20:1-5, Deut 17:2-7).

16. Incest (Lev 20:11-12, 14, 19-21).

17. Homosexuality (Lev 20:13).

18. Kidnapping (Ex 21:16).

19. To bear false testimony at a trial (Deut 19:16, 19).

20. Contempt of court (Deut 17:8-13).

The manner of execution in the Old Testament could be stoning, burning, using a sword, spear or arrow (Lev 20:27, 21:9, Ex 19:13, 32:27, Numb 25:7-8).

Key word(s) : OLD TESTAMENT.

Meaning before the coming of Christ and his teachings? So yeah, I guess yer point disqualified.

 

[Alexia Dark]

Killing someone for commiting murder is an oxymoron.

 

[Venom_uk]

Yep. We need this in the UK badley IMO!

 

[ahw]

The Problem is that the death penality in itself is "final" it's something that can never be corrected when applied. Lets asume a Jury condems someone to be executed and after he died it is revealed that he was in fact not guilty, what do you do with the Jury, the Judge the Executioner?, In essence they just committed first degree murder. Do you take the whole lot and put them on trial?

As long as there is not way to make absolutely sure that someone is guilty the death penality is babaric and a failed concept that costs innocent lives.

(On a more personal note, if someone I love would be executed and I would find out that he wasn't guitly I would hunt down every member of the Jury, the Judge the District Attorney and Executioner and would let them experience their idea of Justice first hand)

 

[Wiseman]

I support the death penalty after sentencing. The judge should be able to read the verdict and just pull out a gun from behind his bench and shoot the f**ker between the eyes

 

[Bathrat]

no.

 

[Captain Bryan]

Yeah but in all honesty, JC is like the right-wing version of Shelby(Where is he anyway?) so it kinda balances out. I'd love to see them two go at it.

Then again, Strike-Hard, and Fred_Fury are around too.

 

[Wiseman]

Then again, Strike-Hard, and Fred_Fury are around too.

They weren't at the time this thread was started. I actually miss Shelby, we had some run-ins but I hope nothing bad happened to him

 

[PALADIN]

Re: Do you support the death penalty?

....This close to Christmas; No.
Not for the sake of the condemned; but for the remembrances of their Family.

No One should have to think of Christmas as the time they lost someone they loved......No matter how much they may deserve it.

Come New Years; Fry Em or Shoot `Em Up Into La-La-Land.

....or if there is a Firing Squad; call me and supply the ammo.

 

[Golgo-13]

I support the death penalty when it comes to pediphiles.

 

[Dark Carnage]

Anything to lower the population.