The Amazing Spider-Man Does a Lizard with no snout bother you? If so, why?

[Troy_Parker]

There was a spot in the trailer when Peter and Dr Connors are standing next to one another. I might assume that they are working together on something and when Connors is missing from the lab Peter finds his lab work or plans; that leads him to think Connors is the lizard...after their first battle of course. It's just a guess but entirely possible.

Yeah, I think he's showing him his research. After seeing/hearing about the Lizard, Peter connects the dots.

 

[Spider-Who?]

I don't ****ing understand what is going on here so I'm just going to lay it all out for everyone right here and now.

1. THIS IS THE LIZARD. This is not an early transformation. This is what he will be. Sure, Dr. Connors might have some scales on him as a side effect, but when he turns into the Lizard, this will be what we see every. Single. Time.

2. He is bigger on film. NUMEROUS people that have seen the SDCC footage state that he is bigger and scarier on film. He will have more bulk to him. Hello? The thing ****ing throws cars (see: trailer), he's not going to be small by any means.

3. There is no god damn lab coat. I can guarantee that during the transformation sequences there will be a little bit of clothing left on him but he promptly shrugs it all off. It will be a nice little nod to the people that want to see it, but it's time to get over it.


I hope this will end any of these silly discussions going forward until we see some real footage of him.

I'm sorry, but this post bugs me. All you're doing is putting a bunch of conjecture together and labeling it as FACT, as if you've seen the movie.

Another thing that bugs me is that in point 1, you say that the concept art IS THE LIZARD!!!!11!, screaming to the heavens that what we see in the art is exactly what we'll see in the film. Then you go about contradicting this statement in point 2 by stating what everyone has heard that the Lizard is larger, has a snout, and is much more menacing (based on comic-con footage). The Lizard in the concept art is not large, nor does it have a snout, nor is it really all that menacing. So right off the bat, your first point is WRONG because we have actual viewer confirmation (and pics) that suggest the concept art is NOT 100% accurate. I'll take SCREENSHOTS from viewed footage as truth WAAAAY before any concept art.

As for point three, how can you guarantee this, or ANYTHING for that matter? I'm not disagreeing and saying that he has a lab coat, but dude, unless you've SEEN THE MOVIE, you can't guarantee ****.

You should take your own advice and wait for real footage before damning any and all discussion and spouting forth your own conjecture as if it were the gospel truth.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Nice post

 

[Spider-Who?]

To keep discussion and the FUN OF WONDERING how it could all go down, here's how I interpret the evolution of the Lizard based on what we've seen thus far. I'm in no way passing this off as truth - I haven't got a clue. This is just my personal interpretation. Feel free to rip it apart.

Conners "I've got no hand and I'm sad - oh look! A rock!":

Conners begins to see an effect "Wut?" (first transformation):

Conners as "I need to GTF outta here!" Lizard "STAGE 1" (when he really realizes things are wrong, or this might be a practicale version of stage 2, that they'll enhance with CGI):

Conners as "S**t's real, son!" Lizard "STAGE 2" (what I think we'll see for most of the film, he's still got some humanity to make us feel for him, making the final stage that much more dramatic):

Conners as "You're f**ked" Lizard "Stage 3" (what we'll see in the third act to help show how serious it is/important it is that Spidey stop him):

 

[Oscorp]

Sounds great to me!

 

[CashforStash]

To keep discussion and the FUN OF WONDERING how it could all go down, here's how I interpret the evolution of the Lizard based on what we've seen thus far. I'm in no way passing this off as truth - I haven't got a clue. This is just my personal interpretation. Feel free to rip it apart.

Conners "I've got no hand and I'm sad - oh look! A rock!":

Conners begins to see an effect "Wut?" (first transformation):

Conners as "I need to GTF outta here!" Lizard "STAGE 1" (when he really realizes things are wrong, or this might be a practicale version of stage 2, that they'll enhance with CGI):

Conners as "S**t's real, son!" Lizard "STAGE 2" (what I think we'll see for most of the film, he's still got some humanity to make us feel for him, making the final stage that much more dramatic):

Conners as "You're f**ked" Lizard "Stage 3" (what we'll see in the third act to help show how serious it is/important it is that Spidey stop him):

This sounds just about right, and by all means I would be happy to see this. I believe (me, moi...I) that this is true, because Connors is seen in different stages in different areas.

For instance, connors looks kinda scaly in that lab picture, but then in the next (the one where he is covered) he appears to be a little more green underneath.

I can't really explain, but I hope you guys understand.

But if it turns out the concept art is what we see on screen then color me disappointed. Like I don't think it'd ruin the movie by any means, but it might downgrade the experience or potentially hurt the box office because this concept art does come off more as a joke then threatening for a reboot of a billion dollar franchise.

Just my two cents, and like I stated, just my opinion and nothing I'm claiming to be official.

 

[Troy_Parker]

because we have actual viewer confirmation (and pics) that suggest the concept art is NOT 100% accurate.

That's actually been split in two.

A person here who saw the footage said he looks pretty much exactly like the art.

RIM and the PrettyMuchIt guy (Eric) said the Pez head looks a lot like the Lizard in the footage. Then when the promo art came out, they said it looks NOTHING like the Lizard in the footage, even though the Pez head and the promo art look basically the same. So that didn't help.

The best thing to do is wait, I guess. Personally, I don't think we're going to see a huge difference outside of his size. And I DO think he has a snout, just like he does in the SDCC pics. Why does his head/mouth look flat in the front shot of him in the SDCC footage, but not in the side view? We've only gotten a clear front shot of him. I'm sure a more angled shot will clear up any misconceptions people have.

 

[Oscorp]

This is almost too much now. I hope the trailer will make things clear

 

[©KAW]

I'm sure a more angled shot will clear up any misconceptions people have.

No it won't. A clear shot of The Lizard from all sides in the trailer with moving images will.

 

[Troy_Parker]

No it won't. A clear shot of The Lizard from all sides in the trailer with moving images will.

Considering some people are definitely sure he has a snout based on an extremely blurry image of his side, I think they will.

 

[©KAW]

Considering some people are definitely sure he has a snout based on an extremely blurry image of his side, I think they will.

I know it won't.

It'll just be more idiotic speculations as to why, you want to end this, show the moving image to the masses in the next trailer. Other wise, nothing doing.

 

[Troy_Parker]

I know it won't.

It'll just be more idiotic speculation, you want to end this, show the moving image to the masses in the next trailer. Other wise, nothing doing.

A clear as day image of the Lizard's face... which shows whether or not he has a snout... WON'T stop the snout debate?

Lol you're right, tbh. Oh well, not long to go until we get the next trailer.

 

[Spider-Who?]

Considering some people are definitely sure he has a snout based on an extremely blurry image of his side, I think they will.

Really? So what, you think the "snout" portion of the image I posted is really just his whole face? Anatomically, that makes NO sense. That'd make everything else seen in the image his NECK. Just look at the last image I posted. The blurriness of the image doesn't change the PROFILE of his face.

I think the biggest problem here is that some people don't have a clue as to what a snout even is, otherwise they wouldn't look at that image and say "theres no snout".

 

[©KAW]

I know what I'm asking is going to seem crazy...but what does "tbh" stand for?

 

[Spider-Who?]

I know what I'm asking is going to seem crazy...but what does "tbh" stand for?

To be honest. Though, whenever I read it, I always hear the "tbbbbhhhh" noise from someone blowing raspberries, lol

 

[©KAW]

Really? So what, you think the "snout" portion of the image I posted is really just his whole face? Anatomically, that makes NO sense. That'd make everything else seen in the image his NECK. Just look at the last image I posted. The blurriness of the image doesn't change the PROFILE of his face.

I think the biggest problem here is that some people don't have a clue as to what a snout even is, otherwise they wouldn't look at that image and say "thereafter no snout".

So true.

 

[©KAW]

To be honest. Though, whenever I read it, I always hear the "tbbbbhhhh" noise from someone blowing raspberries, lol

Oh thanks, I just don't know all of the internet lingo.

 

[Troy_Parker]

Really? So what, you think the "snout" portion of the image I posted is really just his whole face? Anatomically, that makes NO sense. That'd make everything else seen in the image his NECK. Just look at the last image I posted. The blurriness of the image doesn't change the PROFILE of his face.

I think the biggest problem here is that some people don't have a clue as to what a snout even is, otherwise they wouldn't look at that image and say "theres no snout".

Why do people have such problems with reading comprehension on here?

Did I say that he definitely doesn't have a snout in that picture? No.

Anybody who's denying that he doesn't have something of a snout in that picture is lying to themselves.

 

[Spider-Who?]

Read the post of yours that I quoted, and you will understand why I said what I said. You made the insinuation that the blurry picture isn't proof enough. I'm simply arguing that it IS. Granted, my post probably came off a little harsh. That was not my intent so I apologize if you took it as such.

 

[Troy_Parker]

I can see where you're coming from.

Anyways, what is it that's making people think that the Lizard in the art isn't the final Lizard? Why does everyone keep talking about the side shot of him from the footage, but not the front shot? They're both taken within the same scene... it makes more sense that his face/mouth simply looks flatter from the front than it does from the side, rather than assuming it's just an early stage. Or did his head transform even further within the same scene? l0l

 

[Spider-Who?]

I can see where you're coming from.

Anyways, what is it that's making people think that the Lizard in the art isn't the final Lizard? Why does everyone keep talking about the side shot of him from the footage, but not the front shot? They're both taken within the same scene... it makes more sense that his face/mouth simply looks flatter from the front than it does from the side, rather than assuming it's just an early stage. Or did his head transform even further within the same scene? l0l

I can only speak for myself, but in terms of the art, there's a couple reasons, valid or not....Its simply not a very enthralling design. I think its kind of weak, and is too human looking (in short, I don't like it and its slightly wishful thinking, lol). Also, since there are people saying that the footage they saw shows a bigger, meaner lizard, it would seem like a natural conclusion that the smaller, more human version is an earlier iteration. Also, far as I know, there is no offical confirmation as to what it is. All we know is that it resembles the footage, to SOME extent. We don't know the purpose of the art work, other than assuming it being a concept piece which in the grand scheme of things, doesn't mean much unless there's offical word from Sony.

What front shot, aside from the art are you talking about? I'm not familiar.....

 

[Juicy J]

I'm sorry, but this post bugs me. All you're doing is putting a bunch of conjecture together and labeling it as FACT, as if you've seen the movie.

Another thing that bugs me is that in point 1, you say that the concept art IS THE LIZARD!!!!11!, screaming to the heavens that what we see in the art is exactly what we'll see in the film. Then you go about contradicting this statement in point 2 by stating what everyone has heard that the Lizard is larger, has a snout, and is much more menacing (based on comic-con footage). The Lizard in the concept art is not large, nor does it have a snout, nor is it really all that menacing. So right off the bat, your first point is WRONG because we have actual viewer confirmation (and pics) that suggest the concept art is NOT 100% accurate. I'll take SCREENSHOTS from viewed footage as truth WAAAAY before any concept art.

As for point three, how can you guarantee this, or ANYTHING for that matter? I'm not disagreeing and saying that he has a lab coat, but dude, unless you've SEEN THE MOVIE, you can't guarantee ****.

You should take your own advice and wait for real footage before damning any and all discussion and spouting forth your own conjecture as if it were the gospel truth.

Hahaha thank you, took the words right out of my mouth.

Another fantastic post, couldn't agree more.
I wish I had this exact picture a couple days ago when I was here arguing with a few people about how much of a snout the lizard has. Cause it's OBVIOUS he has one.
We have only sparse details and little snippets of info, but enough to the point where we can get a good idea of what's going to happen and from what I can tell it's clearly obvious he undergoes a transformation pretty similar to what you have outlined here.

 

[Troy_Parker]

What front shot, aside from the art are you talking about? I'm not familiar.....

This front shot.

He even seems to have the same shaped nose as he does in the promo art and Pez head.

I doubt they'd market the Lizard in his least threatening form... unless the more primal version was supposed to be a surprise, like in the last battle or something.

 

[VenomSpawn]

The promo art (it's not concept art. Why would they use an incomplete design for promos?) looks just like this.

Therefore I have reason to believe it's exactly what we'll see on film.

EDIT: God dammit, Troy and me posted the same picture. At the same time.

 

[Spiderman6592]

You're posting photos of Comic Con footage...you realize that everyone that has seen the SDCC footage has said that this is very much like the Lizard, and that the only difference is that he's bigger and more intimidating?

I'm acting like it's fact, because it is fact. You honestly think they wouldn't so much as mention something like multiple forms during the duration of a 40 minute panel?

Wishful thinking gets you nowhere friends.


RIM, our most reliable source, has stated that it is promo art. What marketing genius goes and says, "HEY I HAVE A GREAT IDEA! LET'S PUBLICIZE AN EARLY VERSION OF THE LIZARD COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTEXT!"