Sequels Does Anyone Think..

[matthooper]

We do know Warners COMMISSIONED writers to do multiple (at least two) drafts of a JLA movie.

True, but I meant we know nothing official about the production beyond the script.

I think the studio has run the numbers between the two. They probably feel they can make the same or more with a JLA movie. It's probably a tossup at this point. But they won't make both. They figure as long as the public sees Supes and Batman, they'll see it. The average movie goer doesn't know Singer from Adam. The average fan also doesn't care which they get. I doubt too many people are clammering for either one at this point. They've waited too long for even a tidbit from the SR sequel. My guess is, they feel they can capitalize on the Batman restart and the lackluster Superman restart and make a bigger splash with JLA. Honestly, I don't think any regular movie fan gives a crap about either one.

 

[Showtime]

Which is the way they should have gone for JLA, individual movies first, then JLA. There is a formula to this.

 

[KaptainKrypton]

The big question I have about JLA is whether or not Warner's will produce solely by themselves, or if they'll take the same approach they did with SR and BB and spread the risk around with another group like Legendary or Village Roadshow.

 

[Showtime]

I would assume Legendary would want to contribute.

 

[Excel]

I don't think anyone thinks WB is pushing MOS into production. What tiny shred of evidence suggests the WB has even hinted at any Superman Returns sequel going foward? Any info we've heard about development has come from producers and writers, which is about as important a source as a dead chicken.

The only drop of info from the studio has been a few simple words from the studio head that talked about him needing to see a script and budget before any decision is made. How is that pushing MOS foward?

It does seem however that JL is quickly moving ahead.

Seriously, whats going on with JL? They are in casting...something MOS already has. I mean seriously-

"Any info we've heard about development has come from producers and writers, which is about as important a source as a dead chicken."

What the hell has been said bout JL from another source? What happened to that "week before labor day"-"day after labvor day"-"week after labor day" announcment about George Miller?

I guess I am the only one whose still waiting on that baby, that has been "imminent" for over the past month.

ALL JL has is rumors, 110% all uncofirmed. They are in casting right now. Sweet, so was every other Superhero film ever looked into. It does not mean JACK.

I am not saying MOS is happening or something; but nothing is known right now. Jett at BOF was very certain a few weeks ago JL was gonna get made but suddenly he is saying it isn't...interesting.

At this point, JL is no different than dozens and dozens of other superhero films that never got made. It is taking steps to get made, but history has shown in this genre that doesnt mean anything.

 

[buggs0268]

Most websites are reporting they are both going forward, Singer has a team working on the script, storyboards, and now concept art. Rob at IESB has been told they are both happening, I believe the same goes for Steve Younis at Supermanhomepage. Does that mean they are both happening, no.

We can only go by what is official, which is nothing at this point. It's a big twisted mess with reports. Hopefully WB will make an announcement of some kind at some point.

In regards to the sequel, I was listening to the interviews from Saturn and Dan Harris made a comment about listening to the fans, correcting things, and taking criticism.

Showtime, honestly, I can not see them going ahead with SR2 if they go with JLA. Even the rumor of tying in an SR2 to JLA, either before or after, would be a dumb idea. It would mean that something happens in one movie with a different continuity and a different guy playing Supes, to be concluded in another continuity and another actor. I just don't see the WB doing it. I honestly predict once JLA is officially greenlit, SR2 is dead. Not saying that out of my hatred for SR, but they are stuck with two continuities for Batman, but not for Superman if they let SR be a stand alone and use this as a reboot.

 

[buggs0268]

True, but I meant we know nothing official about the production beyond the script.

I think the studio has run the numbers between the two. They probably feel they can make the same or more with a JLA movie. It's probably a tossup at this point. But they won't make both. They figure as long as the public sees Supes and Batman, they'll see it. The average movie goer doesn't know Singer from Adam. The average fan also doesn't care which they get. I doubt too many people are clammering for either one at this point. They've waited too long for even a tidbit from the SR sequel. My guess is, they feel they can capitalize on the Batman restart and the lackluster Superman restart and make a bigger splash with JLA. Honestly, I don't think any regular movie fan gives a crap about either one.

Also, the WB has to sell the film to the exibitors to show it, and the exibitors feel they got burned with SR not making a boatload. With JLA, they know they can sell it to them.

Man it is going to be a train wreck when JLA is greenlit watching Excel's fall. I feel bad for the dude, but at least he is consistent in backing his preferred horse.

 

[\S/JcDc\S/]

I honestly predict once JLA is officially greenlit, SR2 is dead. Not saying that out of my hatred for SR, but they are stuck with two continuities for Batman, but not for Superman if they let SR be a stand alone and use this as a reboot.

Yeah this thought has been getting repeated by many posters on both sides. Pretty obvious possibility that JL greenlight with a new Superman would mean MOS could get more than postponed. Of course you have to accept it's not you vs the world. Some people do look at all possible angles bro

 

[buggs0268]

Yeah this thought has been getting repeated by many posters on both sides. Pretty obvious possibility that JL greenlight with a new Superman would mean MOS could get more than postponed. Of course you have to accept it's not you vs the world. Some people do look at all possible angles bro

I understand that. I am merely stating I doubt that the WB will start two Superman movies in seperate continuity. The Dark Knight was already underway before the WB commissioned the script, so we are stuck with two Batman continuities, for which I am glad. But since SR2 has not been started, nor have they had to spend anything other than development cost for writing it and scouting, so forth, they aren't losing money if they don't do it. And I think people will just get too confused with three seperate continuities. And I think the WB knows this.

Also, if they are moving in when the superman homepage said they are, then it will be a 2009 release and not 2010. Post production is too quick now a days and I bet they already have effects teams working on cgi now. If Emmerich could do it at the start of digital days with Independance Day with miniatures and stuff, and again with the Day after tommorrow, then this can be done by summer 2009.

 

[Showtime]

Showtime, honestly, I can not see them going ahead with SR2 if they go with JLA. Even the rumor of tying in an SR2 to JLA, either before or after, would be a dumb idea. It would mean that something happens in one movie with a different continuity and a different guy playing Supes, to be concluded in another continuity and another actor. I just don't see the WB doing it. I honestly predict once JLA is officially greenlit, SR2 is dead. Not saying that out of my hatred for SR, but they are stuck with two continuities for Batman, but not for Superman if they let SR be a stand alone and use this as a reboot.

I already said the same thing, despite what is being said, I believe if JLA is greenlit for 2009 and there is a delay on MOS then there will be no MOS.

 

[Showtime]

I understand that. I am merely stating I doubt that the WB will start two Superman movies in seperate continuity. The Dark Knight was already underway before the WB commissioned the script, so we are stuck with two Batman continuities, for which I am glad. But since SR2 has not been started, nor have they had to spend anything other than development cost for writing it and scouting, so forth, they aren't losing money if they don't do it. And I think people will just get too confused with three seperate continuities. And I think the WB knows this.

Also, if they are moving in when the superman homepage said they are, then it will be a 2009 release and not 2010. Post production is too quick now a days and I bet they already have effects teams working on cgi now. If Emmerich could do it at the start of digital days with Independance Day with miniatures and stuff, and again with the Day after tommorrow, then this can be done by summer 2009.

Well the report on Supermanhomepage is saying 2010 and I am not sure if that adds up either. Weird. However, if JLA is indeed a 2010tentpole film, then MOS could possibly be the 2009 tentpole film completing Singer's story.

 

[buggs0268]

I already said the same thing, despite what is being said, I believe if JLA is greenlit for 2009 and there is a delay on MOS then there will be no MOS.

Ah okay. I missed that. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[buggs0268]

Well the report on Supermanhomepage is saying 2010 and I am not sure if that adds up either. Weird.

Yeah. I think it will end up being a summer 2009 release. 2010 is way too far off. I think a lot of the CGI work that doesn't include the heroes will be in the can by the time they start filming.

 

[Showtime]

Ah okay. I missed that. Sorry for the confusion.

I think if JLA is indeed coming out in 2010, then MOS has a shot. If JLA is greenlit for 2009, I can't see WB running both of the franchises. The Superman from JLA will take over and they will jump from there.

 

[buggs0268]

Thing is, they are alrady active on working on JLA right now and they have a studio and a date to start shooting. I bet effects vendors are actively working on it now. MOS has nothing, and I don't think Singer can film a sequel in time for the possible strikes. The studios are on a deadline. I honestly think MOS is dead. There is way too much movement on JLA right now and really nothing on SR2. If SR2 starts, it will already be behind the 8 ball in terms of JLA being fully in production. I could be wrong, and if I am, I am. I just don't see MOS happening.

 

[Showtime]

Younis is now saying that 2010 could be the release date in Australia?

 

[buggs0268]

Younis is now saying that 2010 could be the release date in Australia?

Could be what happened with Superman 2. Where it was released in 1980 6 months before it was released in American to coincide with both countries summers. But I see it being released here first since they wouldn't do another country before the US first now. And if they did, I don't think they would do it with this film. With the internet, too many spoilers would come out and the thing would be up for illegal download. In 1980, you had to fly to Austrailia to know anything about it, or read Starlog with one picture of Superman holding up the elevator and raching for Lois under it.

 

[Showtime]

Could be what happened with Superman 2. Where it was released in 1980 6 months before it was released in American to coincide with both countries summers. But I see it being released here first since they wouldn't do another country before the US first now. And if they did, I don't think they would do it with this film. With the internet, too many spoilers would come out and the thing would be up for illegal download. In 1980, you had to fly to Austrailia to know anything about it, or read Starlog with one picture of Superman holding up the elevator and raching for Lois under it.

Pretty interesting when you think about it. How the internet has changed things.

 

[buggs0268]

Pretty interesting when you think about it. How the internet has changed things.

Yep. Literally we got an article saying that Superman 2 was showing up 6 months before it was going to premiere here due to the Salkind's taking advantage of the summer in both countries, two pics from STM, and one new one from Superman 2 of Superman holding up the elevator and reaching for Lois. The first new pic we got was in another magazine, but it might have been Starlog, of Superman changing in the alleyway at the begining of the movie, but he was already Superman.

 

[Lighthouse]

Anyone else find irony in that the film would be shot in Australia, but the US would see the movie before they would?

 

[buggs0268]

Anyone else find irony in that the film would be shot in Australia, but the US would see the movie before they would?

Not really. US has a lot more people then Australia so that is the main market.

 

[Lighthouse]

Not really. US has a lot more people then Australia so that is the main market.

I know, I just think its funny that they will be one of the last ones to see a movie that was filmed in their own country/continent.

 

[Angeloz]

I don't think they'd release it months after the U.S. here (Australia). Because they were supposed to release "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix" here in September but they changed there minds and released it on the Wednesday the week most of the world got it. I presume the U.S. and U.K. got it on the Friday. So we got it before you guys (in those countries). I'll point out it was because it was the end of school holidays (for some states) here as well as the internet. It's just not a good idea to release blockbuster films in more than a week and especially not more than a month differently than the rest of the world. Although there was the World Cup in Europe (for "Superman Returns"). By the way for "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire" we had to wait about 13 days after the U.S. and U.K. so we don't always get it so good.

This is my longwinded way of saying if we get "JLA" in 2010 then so will most of the world probably. I'm indifferent on this and hope that we get a Superman sequel too presumably in 2009.

Angeloz

 

[buggs0268]

I don't think they'd release it months after the U.S. here (Australia). Because they were supposed to release "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix" here in September but they changed there minds and released it on the Wednesday the week most of the world got it. I presume the U.S. and U.K. got it on the Friday. So we got it before you guys (in those countries). I'll point out it was because it was the end of school holidays (for some states) here as well as the internet. It's just not a good idea to release blockbuster films in more than a week and especially not more than a month differently than the rest of the world. Although there was the World Cup in Europe (for "Superman Returns"). By the way for "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire" we had to wait about 13 days after the U.S. and U.K. so we don't always get it so good.

This is my longwinded way of saying if we get "JLA" in 2010 then so will most of the world probably. I'm indifferent on this and hope that we get a Superman sequel too presumably in 2009.

Angeloz

I understand. I just don't think it will be for 2010. I think they are going for a 2009 release.

 

[Angeloz]

Wouldn't 2010 mean more time for the effects? Just a thought. Still indifferent though unless it stuffs up the Superman sequel. I don't like that idea.

Angeloz