Godzilla2000
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Just to give you a bit of background, I have always loved villains in movies more than the heroes. As a 70's kid Darth Vader was my first villain and I loved him. Original 70's BSG loved the Cylon Centurions. Superman II loved the three Kryptonian Villains. Loved Khan in Wrath of Khan, Sauron in LOTR, etc. etc. You get the idea. I have quite a pedigree for liking villains.
Anyways after watching Thor: The Dark World and Guardians of the Galaxy, both movies I like by the way, it has come to my attention that if you are a villain who's not Loki Marvel doesn't like you. Now this may change when Age of Ultron comes out because Ultron looks like he will be very badass, but as things stand the only real standout villain in all the Marvel movies is Loki. (And he should take over the void left with Mephisto being owned by another studio as the mover and shaker of evil deeds in the MCU.) Mostly all the other villains, such as Malekith and Ronan, introduced have been pretty paper thin and uninteresting though they look rather cool. It's like Marvel is afraid of creating another sympathetic villain people will love more than the heroes. And admit it, Thor is always upstaged by Loki in the Thor movies. We can all blame Tom Hiddleston for this of course.
Now I was thinking of this as I was typing the above paragraph. Anyways I think what Disney Owned Marvel doesn't understand is the need for an interesting villain the audience gets to know, meaning they need to find writing collaborators who know how to write for villains in a way that makes them interesting. That and they need to give any not-Loki villains more screen time so the audience can get a feel for who this villain is and why we hate them. Let's face it, they need to be evil regardless of the reasons and we need to see them a lot more doing evil things so we can rally behind the heroes. And sometimes a villain being liked by fans isn't a bad thing, case in point: Loki. Sometimes even the villain becomes an anti-hero because of how much the fans like him/her, like Venom in the Spider-man comics. No matter how you slice it Marvel needs to spend more time developing their villains and making them interesting. They dropped the ball with Malekith and Ronan mostly because of their lower tier status and a lack of expectations due to the aura of unfamiliarity. They should have improved these characters and made them first tier much like the first Ironman movie did with Tony Stark who wasn't as popular as other Marvel characters until Robert Downey Jr. brought him to life.
And on the subject of Ironman I have oodles of ideas in my head as to how they could make the Mandarin a real kickass, scary villain if done right and with serious respect to creating a better less ethnocentrically caricatured version than as he appears in the comics. It would all come down to the casting of the character which demands a kickass Asian actor that should be pretty unknown to us here in the West. If you want to know my pick, watch Godzilla: Final Wars and pay attention to the younger Xillian commander in the movie. He'd be my perfect choice for an actor to play the Mandarin if he could perfect his English.
But anyways, let me hear what you have to say.
Anyways after watching Thor: The Dark World and Guardians of the Galaxy, both movies I like by the way, it has come to my attention that if you are a villain who's not Loki Marvel doesn't like you. Now this may change when Age of Ultron comes out because Ultron looks like he will be very badass, but as things stand the only real standout villain in all the Marvel movies is Loki. (And he should take over the void left with Mephisto being owned by another studio as the mover and shaker of evil deeds in the MCU.) Mostly all the other villains, such as Malekith and Ronan, introduced have been pretty paper thin and uninteresting though they look rather cool. It's like Marvel is afraid of creating another sympathetic villain people will love more than the heroes. And admit it, Thor is always upstaged by Loki in the Thor movies. We can all blame Tom Hiddleston for this of course.
Now I was thinking of this as I was typing the above paragraph. Anyways I think what Disney Owned Marvel doesn't understand is the need for an interesting villain the audience gets to know, meaning they need to find writing collaborators who know how to write for villains in a way that makes them interesting. That and they need to give any not-Loki villains more screen time so the audience can get a feel for who this villain is and why we hate them. Let's face it, they need to be evil regardless of the reasons and we need to see them a lot more doing evil things so we can rally behind the heroes. And sometimes a villain being liked by fans isn't a bad thing, case in point: Loki. Sometimes even the villain becomes an anti-hero because of how much the fans like him/her, like Venom in the Spider-man comics. No matter how you slice it Marvel needs to spend more time developing their villains and making them interesting. They dropped the ball with Malekith and Ronan mostly because of their lower tier status and a lack of expectations due to the aura of unfamiliarity. They should have improved these characters and made them first tier much like the first Ironman movie did with Tony Stark who wasn't as popular as other Marvel characters until Robert Downey Jr. brought him to life.
And on the subject of Ironman I have oodles of ideas in my head as to how they could make the Mandarin a real kickass, scary villain if done right and with serious respect to creating a better less ethnocentrically caricatured version than as he appears in the comics. It would all come down to the casting of the character which demands a kickass Asian actor that should be pretty unknown to us here in the West. If you want to know my pick, watch Godzilla: Final Wars and pay attention to the younger Xillian commander in the movie. He'd be my perfect choice for an actor to play the Mandarin if he could perfect his English.
But anyways, let me hear what you have to say.
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