Logan Does the events of "Logan" ruin "Days of Future Past" for you?

[JP]

That's very interesting to me. May I ask why? Because of the fact that this time they at least get some happiness for a little while?

Just the emotional beat of Xavier and Logan "meeting" again.

"We have a lot of catching up to do..."

 

[Weather Witch]

Just the emotional best of Xavier and Logan "meeting" again.

"We have a lot of catching up to do..."

That makes total sense.

 

[Hmarrs]

Yeah that's been the official word all along. Except when the 'feels like a different universe' stuff was ripped completely out of context that is.

Does anyone else realize that they just ruined and brought snd end not only to Wolverine and Prof.X but to the entire franchise.
For starters their wont be anymore anticipations or sense of danger on behalf of Prof X or Wolverine even if they replace Wolverine in FC because I know now that they will live to that ripe old age that they end up becoming in Logan.
As well as knowing that all Mutants die due to the events in Logan so any impending danger to wipe out Mutants will not be successful.
Because they survive whatever threat that comes before Logan.
the whole Franchise is dead really.Its like going to see a Movie knowing what the ending is does anything before the ending of the movie really bring any anticipation of the characters outcome if you know the ending or reading a Mystery knowing who the the Killer is before hand????
Technically doesn't Logan turn out to be a spolier to any Xmen movie now if it is considered direct continuity????

 

[Weather Witch]

Does anyone else realize that they just ruined and brought snd end not only to Wolverine and Prof.X but to the entire franchise.

Not really no.

For starters their wont be anymore anticipations or sense of danger on behalf of Prof X or Wolverine even if they replace Wolverine in FC because I know now that they will live to that ripe old age that they end up becoming in Logan.

That was already the case three years ago with DOFP. The only difference being you now know how two of them die as well.

As well as knowing that all Mutants die due to the events in Logan so any impending danger to wipe out Mutants will not be successful.

Well no. No new Mutants are born since 2009 thanks to Rice and specifically 7 mutants died thanks to Xavier. Doesn't mean there can't be more to it than that. There are still a lot of mutants out there that were born before 2009.

Because they survive whatever threat that comes before Logan.

According to DOFP ending the X-Men eventually are all alive in the mansion yes. Logan doesn't add much to that. Again three years late with this complaint.

Technically doesn't Logan turn out to be a spolier to any Xmen movie now if it is considered direct continuity????

No more than anything else since we've gone the prequel route, no. Though as I have said before Logan does feel fairly final. It means that to me the franchise has to promise they still have movies worth doing and stories more telling.

 

[Marvel]

The events of Logan ruin a lot of things if this is allowed to stand.

It just destroys Xavier as a character reaching back to every movie including First Class. Just destroys his legacy and makes him as failed as it gets.

 

[Mutant 77]

The events of Logan ruin a lot of things if this is allowed to stand.

It just destroys Xavier as a character reaching back to every movie including First Class. Just destroys his legacy and makes him as failed as it gets.

To me "Logan" is a standalone universe.

 

[P Supreme]

Jennifer Lawrence ruined my enjoyment of days of future past

despite Logan being phenomenal it does ruin the other movies that perfect ending to DOFP is nullified with Logan

 

[psylockolussus]

Sad to see that 12 people thinks Logan ruined Dofp's ending.

Personally speaking, it just doesn't make sense that Xavier and Logan were just stuck with each other like 6 years after 2023. Like maybe all the main X-Men weren't killed but they really had to go their separate ways and just let Logan deal with Xavier's health condition? How are they gonna find out that Logan/Xavier are now dead? Just really weird. I don't like how Mangold treats this like a stand alone and like as if it won't affect future and previous movies.

 

[Mutant 77]

Sad to see that 12 people thinks Logan ruined Dofp's ending.

Personally speaking, it just doesn't make sense that Xavier and Logan were just stuck with each other like 6 years after 2023. Like maybe all the main X-Men weren't killed but they really had to go their separate ways and just let Logan deal with Xavier's health condition? How are they gonna find out that Logan/Xavier are now dead? Just really weird. I don't like how Mangold treats this like a stand alone and like as if it won't affect future and previous movies.

To me it's an alternate universe. I also compiled its own alternate timeline.

 

[psylockolussus]

To you. Wish you could the same thing to the general public. Like I said time will tell, if this won't affect future movies set in the past.

 

[OcStat]

The only other film I was thinking about while watching Logan was X2, as my mind debated if this movie dethroned the king.

 

[Mutant 77]

To you. Wish you could the same thing to the general public. Like I said time will tell, if this won't affect future movies set in the past.

I think the producers will consider it as an alternative universe. Almost granted.

 

[Smilodon]

Glad that most people think that Logan doesn't invalidate the ending of DOFP. It really doesn't - people were saying DOFP removed all tension from any future film because we know everyone makes it out alive. It's not about the end, but rather the how. It's like saying Batman Beyond ruins Batman TAS because Bruce ends up old, without his Batfamily and Gotham still has crime. It doesn't, the story just goes on.

The timeline right now is simply:

FC (1963) -> DOFP (1973) -> Apocalypse (1983) -> DP (2016 or whenever they end up choosing) -> DOFP (2023) -> Logan (2029).

Time is immutable in this world, with certain events still happening and certain events staying the same. The Statue of Liberty reference was probably done with the intent to hint that something similar to X1 probably occurred in the new timeline. Or Logan and Charles are referencing our X1. That being said, it's good that Mangold left it ambiguous - this is very much a feeling film. We feel it and aren't meant to stress over little inconsistencies.

 

[psylockolussus]

I just don't see the point of doing a dozen films with the young Xavier when I already know he was killed by Wolverine clone in 2029 and Wolverine was the only familiar face that that was there to bury him. And we won't even see that Wolverine guy in the next dozen of films with the younger Xavier.

 

[Mutant 77]

I just don't see the point of doing a dozen films with the young Xavier when I already know he was killed by Wolverine clone in 2029 and Wolverine was the only familiar face that that was there to bury him. And we won't even see that Wolverine guy in the next dozen of films with the younger Xavier.

I agree a lot.

 

[psylockolussus]

I just can't imagine people like the general public seeing Logan as a stand alone if they know it's not connected to the previous movies and future movies, in the first plave. That would make the movie pointless and just a what if scenario type of movie? Then do you expect them to watch the next one ?

 

[Mutant 77]

That would make the movie pointless and just a what if scenario type of movie?

No. An alternate universe. It's happening. Just elsewhere...

 

[psylockolussus]

I agree a lot.

I'm glad you did!

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Not really. Continuity has been dead for a long time in this franchise anyways, so I've learned to just not pay much attention to it.

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if Angel and Havok just show up on the team in the next movie with no explanation.

 

[Donner]

I think the producers will consider it as an alternative universe. Almost granted.

Except that they don't. This has already been confirmed. Logan is from the revised timeline of DOFP.

 

[Brother Jack]

Not really. Continuity has been dead for a long time in this franchise anyways, so I've learned to just not pay much attention to it.

These are fundamentally mythological stories anyway, and myths tend to have very loose connectivity.

 

[Mutant 77]

These are fundamentally mythological stories anyway, and myths tend to have very loose connectivity.

Beautiful observation.

 

[henzINNIT]

I thought it might, but Logan stands alone well enough not to matter. It certainly doesn't hurt that we've had 17 years of terrible continuity to adjust to. Still a shame to me that we couldn't get a little more time with that 2023 cast, but what is done is done.

I do hope to see Patrick Stewart again. While Jackman manufactured a perfect send-off for himself and is right to want to cut it off here, Xavier's end is not how I want his chapter closed. Bring on potential appearances in Deadpool 2, Legion, whatever else.

Logan did negatively impact Apocalypse for me. Never mind the Caliban confusion; seeing a grim, adult take on a character in this universe made me think Magneto's material in Apocalypse deserved a film of its own in a similar vein.

Why are people assuming Logan is in a timeline of its own because Liberty Island is referenced? DOFP erased the original timeline. However, the proper assumption would be that between X:A and the future ending of DOFP, Liberty Island still happened. It is ripples in time. Some things ended up still happening albeit a bit differently.

Yeah that is my impression too. After DOFP, we can assume things happened similarly to the OT unless it is directly contradicted.

 

[Ivan Drago]

Caliban was great in Logan, I liked him so much more than his appearance in Apocalypse.

 

[Golgo-13]

Did they ever address how Xavier is alive at the end of The Wolverine, or how he gets his adamantium claws back for the future portion of DOFP?