dosent it suck that both of the major comic flicks in 06 failed to hit the mark?

ultimatefan said:
Now that the rush for POTC2 has estabilized, SR is having better legs, so you can´t say the movie was terribly rejected.
Better legs? Where??? :eek:
 
I don't care that they didn't "hit their mark". I liked one, and hated the other and that's all that matters to me.
 
WarBlade said:
Better legs? Where??? :eek:
Yeah i was gonna say the same thing.

the reason SR is probably doing as well right now is the over flow of people who see that instead cause POTC2 is sold out.
 
J Alba's Lover said:
Yeah i was gonna say the same thing.

the reason SR is probably doing as well right now is the over flow of people who see that instead cause POTC2 is sold out.

Don't kid yourself. Dead Man's Chest is hardly a nation wide sell out anymore. Any business Returns is doing, it's doing on its own (that's not to say that it's phenomenal though).
 
BMM said:
Don't kid yourself. Dead Man's Chest is hardly a nation wide sell out anymore. Any business Returns is doing, it's doing on its own (that's not to say that it's phenomenal though).
Now look who's kidding there self.
 
X men 3 is a film that i have to watch with at least x2 in a showing. X-men 3 felt like the subsistance of the x-men films(for those of you who dont know what i mean, Metal gear subsistance is a rerelease of metal gear solid 3 snake eater when added extras).
 
J Alba's Lover said:
Now look who's kidding there self.

I'm not kidding myself. It's simple math. Pirates made over 135 million dollars in its first weekend. It made 62 million in its second weekend. It has yet to drop any theaters . . . and there are clearly less people going to see it than there were before. Beyond its opening weekend, if people want to get into Dead Man's Chest, they can. There's room.

Superman Returns may have benefited from an overflow of Dead Man's Chest, during Dead Man's Chest's opening weekend . . . but Dead Man's Chest is no longer a nation wide sell out comparable to its opening weekend when there was an overflow of crowds. If it was still a nation wide sell out, Dead Man's Chest would still be pulling in the same numbers in its second weekend as it did in its first. Returns fell behind Dupree and Little Man . . . it's obviously not the second choice in movies anymore. Any money Returns is making now, is due to people wanting to see Returns.
 
I dont see how people can say Superman Returns is so bad, especially when its right next to a clunker like X3. Waste of characters and my time.
 
Doomed_hero said:
Well to me, Superman Returns had the story but not enough action and X3 had the action, but not the story.
I agree with you 100% on this. :up:

I don't agree with those saying that SR surpassed BB. Batman Begins was better, in my opinion, for the fact that for once, the Batman character was finally captured correctly. It was also made more realistically than the past films as well as SR.

But I am also not a big fan of characters such as Superman or Wonder Woman because their origins are so outlandish.

Although I must say Bosworth was looking quite ****able in SR, lol.
 
X3 was rushed through production and what was left was a shoddy sequel to the orignals with some nice fx and music here and there.

SR, I wanted it to be great, but the film drags itself down with too much referrence to a nearly 30yearold movie, a wacky plot straight out of austin powers, and a bunch of dull, pretty, scenes that just have little purpose whatsoever. Throughout the movie it's constantly falling back and fourth between excellent to terrible filmmaking. And its place in continuity with the old movies is confusing as hell.

in a lot of ways, both have the same shortcomings. Some parts are cool but then other parts drag it down to mediocrity and their stories aren't very good.

I'd call them average at best.

Does it suck? After movies like X2, batman begins and spider-man 2, you bettcha it sucks.

Hollywood's proven they can do better!
 
The Batman said:
dosent it suck that both of the major comic flicks in 06 failed to hit the mark?

.....you're forgetting that Superman II comes out this year. That's the main event. :)
 
I didnt think Superman Returns was a masterpiece, but I did love alot of things about it. At first I thought maybe it was because of the super low expectations I had, but Ive seen it three times now and liked it more every time.

I dont know if I could sit through X3 again. Its the most unfocused movie Ive seen in a long time. I was bored and frustrated throughout most of the movie. I really think they should have just stuck with one plot - The Phoenix. They threw the government in there again and a whole bunch of new characters they didnt even have time to develop(why was Angel in this movie?). On top of that, theyre trying to do so much that the characters theyve already developed dont have time to do a whole lot(Did Rogue do anything at all?). Characters die and no one has time to care. its a really messy, underdeveloped flick.

For me it feels like maybe the writers for both movies could have benefitted from a little extra time to edit their work.
 
Actually in my humble opinion X2 and Spider 2 were both horrible films along with Superman Returns. I really enjoyed X3 though.
 
Woah, there you can't say something....that....puzzling without stating yourself. How on earth is X3 better than X2 or Spider-Man 2 now?
 
X2 had the same storyline - basically - as X1 and had little character development other than Nightcrawler. The action scenes other thna the opener were pretty poorly done and the movie had some situations that were outlandishly stupid (put away your claws - I can't when in actuality I could thus lowering the danger level to the children standing near me but due to the fact that this is a film being made by the ego that is bryan singer it would just look cool if I did something totally idiotic and out of character just so you can see a lead bullet pushed from the opening in my head)

I have been called picky and I don't deny it whatsoever. I have high demands.
 
LongDong said:
X2 had the same storyline - basically - as X1 and had little character development other than Nightcrawler. The action scenes other thna the opener were pretty poorly done and the movie had some situations that were outlandishly stupid (put away your claws - I can't when in actuality I could thus lowering the danger level to the children standing near me but due to the fact that this is a film being made by the ego that is bryan singer it would just look cool if I did something totally idiotic and out of character just so you can see a lead bullet pushed from the opening in my head)

I have been called picky and I don't deny it whatsoever. I have high demands.

Yet both X-1 and X-2 were better than X-3. Go figure.:)
 
X2 had way more character development than X3 though? And while the SFX were better in X3 just compared when Wolverine goes bezerk on the guards storming the X-Mansion in X2 to the mutant generic thugs in the woods, it is no contest which is a more exciting and better filemd affair (X2).

And how was X2 a retread when X3 merely ripped off X1 and X2, now there is something that can make mutants humans (instead of humans mutants from X1) and the source of it is a very powerful mutant kid that is creepy in the eyes (from X2)?

And again the biggest one....character development. X1 probably was the heaviest on this (at least for Logan, Rogue, Xavier and Magneto) but X2 took us to new places with Logan without Cyclopsizing him and while Cyke and storm got the shaft (unfortuantely for Cyke, good hting for STorm after watching the putrid performance Berry turned up for X3) we definetly got to play with Pyro, Iceman (without making them stupid cliches like X3 did) and Magneto and Mystique who had a great "old married couple" vibe in X2 and chemistry that X3 took a **** on....not to mention the building of Rogue's character albeit in teh background, to where she is about to become a real hero (instead of being cured)....

I guess it is your opinion to prefer X3 over X2 and all....but how does X3 have more character development than X2, when what little development it has is merely threads left over from X2, threads it generally ****ed up.

And how is X3 better than Spider-Man 2, again?
 
Xmen 3 wasnt that good.
Superman Returns was really good. I loved Brandon Routh.

Its sorta sad how X3 didnt end with a big bang.
 
Darth Elektra said:
Xmen 3 wasnt that good.
Superman Returns was really good. I loved Brandon Routh.

Its sorta sad how X3 didnt end with a big bang.

SR was just as bad, well slightly better than X3. For being Superman, Routh's role was comparable to Cyclops' in X3, barely existant. It seemed to be more of Support Characters Returns! lol.

Routh=Not Enough Charisma

I guess stepping into the role of Superman can be daunting, but he shoulda developed some sort of underlying charisma to convey to the audience. He wasn't Superman, he was an actor playing Superman.
 
LongDong said:
X2 had the same storyline - basically - as X1 and had little character development other than Nightcrawler. The action scenes other thna the opener were pretty poorly done and the movie had some situations that were outlandishly stupid (put away your claws - I can't when in actuality I could thus lowering the danger level to the children standing near me but due to the fact that this is a film being made by the ego that is bryan singer it would just look cool if I did something totally idiotic and out of character just so you can see a lead bullet pushed from the opening in my head)

I have been called picky and I don't deny it whatsoever. I have high demands.

:confused:

That seems extremely picky. Why don't you criticise the script, direction, storyline, acting, something worthwhile?
 
Kevin Roegele said:
:confused:

That seems extremely picky. Why don't you criticise the script, direction, storyline, acting, something worthwhile?

I think that falls into each one of those categories.
 

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