Dracula Year Zero Rises at Universal

They need to make one-shot films, with the occasional connection here and there, but it shouldn't be like Marvel's strategy, i'm not completely against non-action Universal Monsters, i think the Mummy franchise has always been suited for that, but in the mix they should give something more in line with their origins like Phantom of the Opera, proper Frankenstein, Creature from the Black Lagoon, etc.
 
Sad to hear about the bad reviews, I was hoping this would be a case of bad trailers, good film but it looks like the ship has sailed. An utterly pointless and wasted exercise if the suggestions that Universal will reboot Dracula again for their "shared monster universe".

Evans must be praying the crow is a success as being associated with two turkeys where he's playing a beloved character will be poison to his career.

The Crow has been in limbo for a while now. I don't know where that's heading at this point.
 
The fact that the trailers make this movie seem like a cheap Netflix or straight to DVD production is s huge turn off. Also, the fact that it's PG-13 and overall blood less ( from some reviews) I will certainly pass. This could have been something good given the premise but it looks like it's a lazy cheap Halloween cash grab movie.
 
I'm positive I read somewhere that Brad Pitt’s production company would be producing a film about Vlad.
Written by Charlie Hunnam! But I don't think that's being made any time soon. He geeked out about it when he was on the Nedist podcast. Made me want to see it. I think the script is online somewhere.
 
From the trailer the effects didn't look cheap, i'm frankly hoping for a Van Helsingesque guilty pleasure type of movie. Hopefuly the next Universal Monsters films are better.
 
I just got back from watching it, and I say **** those reviews. It's not a horror film, but it hasn't been marketed that way. It could have used perhaps another 10-15 minutes to pad it out, but other than that it really worked for me. Luke Evans, Art Parkinson, and especially Charles Dance were great, Dominic Cooper though, was pretty average as the Sultan Mehmet. The cinematography was great, especially in IMAX. Ramin Djawadi's soundtrack was both demonic and angelic at times, the action was pretty epic, the likes of which you'd see in Lords of Shadows. Basically the movie is 40% Historical Epic and 60% Dark Fantasy, with several elements of the historic war between Vlad Tepes and Mehmet the Conqueror (the infamous forest of impaled Turks is a major moment in the film).

The main problems come about because it's been tied into the Universal Monsters universe, forcing a lot of stuff, added world building, that only vaguely ties into Vlad's story. Yet, at the same time it works well as the "Captain America" of the Universal Monster series, with Charles Dance's character potentially being either the "Nick Fury" or "Thanos" of this new world, depending on how you look at it.

Basically, as a history buff I really appreciated that they went into the whole backstory of Vlad Dracula and his connection with the Ottoman Empire, and his struggle to prevent the Turks from taking his homeland and all of Europe. On that score it worked for me, and as Castlevania: Lords of Shadow fan, I also got a kick out of this for showing Dracula as demonic Demi-God.

It's not a great film, but it's good enough and it's a very unique twist on the classic Dracula mythos. And for what it's worth, it's better than Van Helsing or the latter two Mummy films.
 
The main problems come about because it's been tied into the Universal Monsters universe, forcing a lot of stuff, added world building, that only vaguely ties into Vlad's story. Yet, at the same time it works well as the "Captain America" of the Universal Monster series, with Charles Dance's character potentially being either the "Nick Fury" or "Thanos" of this new world, depending on how you look at it.


What can be considered "world building" in this film? Nod to other monsters?
 
They need to make one-shot films, with the occasional connection here and there, but it shouldn't be like Marvel's strategy, i'm not completely against non-action Universal Monsters, i think the Mummy franchise has always been suited for that, but in the mix they should give something more in line with their origins like Phantom of the Opera, proper Frankenstein, Creature from the Black Lagoon, etc.

Here, here!
 
What can be considered "world building" in this film? Nod to other monsters?

There's a thing with Charles Dance's character
He mentions that he plans to wage a war against another supernatural force at play within the world, a dark force that betrayed him. At the epilogue of the film we see him readying for the war with the intent on calling in Dracula's old debt so that he can use him as an ally in the modern day.
 
Hows Vlad by the end of film. Does he "break bad"? What did you think of this portrayal?
 
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I really wanted to like this film because the director is a former film student where I'm currently studying.

The movie felt like I jumped in mid-season during Dracula Season 2. The story is disjointed, its poorly shot and the dialogue is utter crap. Characters don't develop. Even Vlad, the protagonist, doesn't go through change – only psychically.

The happy Hollywood ending left the front row laughing.
 
Guys is there some sort of an after credit scene hinting at other monsters?
 
Have not seen this yet but apparently if this is successful the director has a really dark sequel planned, dont know why they didnt just go that route in the 1st place.
 
Guys is there some sort of an after credit scene hinting at other monsters?

Nope.

Have not seen this yet but apparently if this is successful the director has a really dark sequel planned, dont know why they didnt just go that route in the 1st place.

This is the directors first feature so he doesn't have the power to make such decisions. Just by the ending alone, you can see the studio wanting things their way.
 
^Universal are really becoming quite bad for interfering with their movies lately, 47 Ronin and now this, with a run-time of around 90 mins, its like they are trying to be the Fox of 2004-2009. Doesnt seem like it benefited either film either.
 
Hows Vlad by the end of film. Does he "break bad"? What did you think of this portrayal?

I liked Evans, and found him to be endearing in a quietly noble way. That said, this Dracula is an anti-hero, who doesn't really go around eating babies like the Bram Stoker character. That said, by the end he admits that he's a monster ("Dracula; Son of the Devil!") and since his family is no longer around, it's very possible that he becomes darker.
 
I just got back from watching it, and I say **** those reviews. It's not a horror film, but it hasn't been marketed that way. It could have used perhaps another 10-15 minutes to pad it out, but other than that it really worked for me. Luke Evans, Art Parkinson, and especially Charles Dance were great, Dominic Cooper though, was pretty average as the Sultan Mehmet. The cinematography was great, especially in IMAX. Ramin Djawadi's soundtrack was both demonic and angelic at times, the action was pretty epic, the likes of which you'd see in Lords of Shadows. Basically the movie is 40% Historical Epic and 60% Dark Fantasy, with several elements of the historic war between Vlad Tepes and Mehmet the Conqueror (the infamous forest of impaled Turks is a major moment in the film).

The main problems come about because it's been tied into the Universal Monsters universe, forcing a lot of stuff, added world building, that only vaguely ties into Vlad's story. Yet, at the same time it works well as the "Captain America" of the Universal Monster series, with Charles Dance's character potentially being either the "Nick Fury" or "Thanos" of this new world, depending on how you look at it.

Basically, as a history buff I really appreciated that they went into the whole backstory of Vlad Dracula and his connection with the Ottoman Empire, and his struggle to prevent the Turks from taking his homeland and all of Europe. On that score it worked for me, and as Castlevania: Lords of Shadow fan, I also got a kick out of this for showing Dracula as demonic Demi-God.

It's not a great film, but it's good enough and it's a very unique twist on the classic Dracula mythos. And for what it's worth, it's better than Van Helsing or the latter two Mummy films.

Good to hear. I plan to watch this and The Judge next weekend.
 
Good to hear. I plan to watch this and The Judge next weekend.

You know what I really got from this movie? They've totally been underutilising Rickon in GoT! :funny: Art Parkinson absolutely killed it in this.
 
Yeah don't let the reviews sway you. It could have definitely done with 10 or 15 more minutes as some of the characters have some great guess work going on when jumping to conclusions, but the film is made by the performances.

Some reviews suggested it was bloodless when I found it to be quite violent with plenty of the red stuff.

Others suggested it was more like a superhero film, but I found it to be dark and unsettling enough which is mainly down to Dance's character and Evan's brilliant performance. Vlad is an antihero but that's where the superhero comparisons end. If they're referring to his exploration of powers then it's an idiotic criticism and even the much maligned bat fist isn't a problem wiyhin the context of the film.

Very harsh reviews imo, no idea where they are coming from.
 
So there will be zero American talk show appearances.
 
Screw the critics! Dracula Untold was absolutely amazing. Luke Evans was just perfect and I can't wait to see it again.
 
I'm supposed to go see this with a friend of mine next week. She's been really excited about seeing it for a while.

I'm thinking I might dupe her into meeting me at a theater that's not showing this movie so that we can see something else instead...
 

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