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[KevanG]

I found in DBZ there wasn't much of an explanation or interaction besides "They hooked up. Why? Because. Now go watch Gohan get the **** beat out of him."

 

[Tron Bonne]

Eh? Krillian like fell head over heels for 18 the minute he saw her, didn't kill her with the remote, and had the bomb removed from her chest so she could live normally. I mean, we didn't see them go on dates or what have you, but it wasn't really a random event.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Krillin hooked up with her cause she looked good. This is one of the few realistic things the franchise has done against the broader scope of things.

 

[Boom]

I'm behind on this show.

Have they indicated when we can expect the English dub?

 

[KevanG]

I'm just going to wait for the dub. I can be patient. On the plus side though, I found the full movie of Return of F on youtube. I can't link to it but I watched the whole thing. The audio was a bit weird sometimes but it was fine otherwise.

 

[Steyin]

Last few eps were great. Can't wait to see "Super Saiyan Mr. Satan" lol

 

[Orb]

Chapter 5 of the Manga is out revealing the starting plot for the Universe 6 arc. The following is a transcript of the chapter, read if ya wish:

Spoiler

Beerus’ planet
Goku and Vegeta are sparring
It’s after RoF, so they’ve got Whis’ signature on their clothes.

• Goku: I wanna get stronger and fight tons of strong guys!!
• Vegeta: Hmph!! There’s someone stronger than you right here. Save that talk until after you’ve defeated me!!!
• Goku: Hah!!!

Goku punches with his left hand, then unleashes a backhand blow with his right hand, but Vegeta blocks it all and grabs Goku’s leg.

• Vegeta: I’ll be the first to defeat Beerus-sama!

Vegeta sends Goku flying

• Vegeta: I’m not going to let you stay one step ahead of me forever!

Vegeta chases at great speed, but Goku teleports behind him. Vegeta kicks, but just hits afterimages, ticking him off.

• Vegeta: Kuh!!!!
• Whis: This won’t do. Vegeta-san has lost his cool yet again.

A shadow appears behind him.

• Vegeta: Over there!!!

But he just punches a tree

• Vegeta: ****…!!!
• Goku: I’ve got you now!!!
• Vegeta: !!

Vegeta turns into a SSGSS

• Whis: Hm, blue hair.

He fires a shockwave that sends Goku flying

• Whis: My, my.
• Goku: Hey that hurt, Vegeta!!! Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan was supposed to be off-limits for this match!!! If you’re gonna be a Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan, then I’ll be one too!!

Goku turns into SSGSS

• Vegeta: Hahaha! That’s just what I was hoping for! Obviously if we’re both Super Saiyan God Super Saiyans, then as an elite I’ll definitely be superior!!
• Goku: No way, my Super Saiyan God Super…Ow!!! I bit my tongue!!!
• Vegeta: ……
• Goku: Hey Vegeta, can’t we do something about that long name?

Whis drops down

• Whis: How about…Super Saiyan Blue?
• Vegeta: …
• Goku: Blue…
• Whis: By the way you two, transformations were forbidden in this match. I can’t have you disobeying my training instructions.

Vegeta averts his eyes, while Goku points at Vegeta as if it’s his fault

• Whis: Are you getting carried away just because you defeated Golden Freeza? Really now…
• Narration: In fact, a little while before this, the terrible emperor Freeza who had previously terrorized the universe came back to life and attacked Earth. However, after meeting Beerus and Whis, Goku and Vegeta received training from Whis, managing to evolve into Super Saiyan Blue, a form surpassing Super Saiyan God. And so they even managed to defeat the revived Freeza!

Whis dresses the two up in what looks like spacesuits, and signs his signature on the front.

• Whis: Since you broke your promise, you can wear these vee~eery heavy suits as punishment.
• Vegeta: I can’t move freely…
• Goku: Geez, this is your fault, Vegeta!
• Vegeta: What was that, Kakarot?!
• Goku: You wanna fight, Vegeta?!

Whis is about to eat some cup ramen, when Champa and Vados drop in.

• Champa: Who are those two? New pupils? Been a while, hasn’t it Whis?
• Whis: Why, if it isn’t Champa-sama. What a rare pleasure.
• Vegeta: Hey, there’s someone who looks like Beerus-sama!
• Goku: Oh, and there’s a lady who looks just like Whis-san too...
• Whis: And what brings you here?
• Champa: Go get Beerus.
• Whis: He is resting right now, but…Alright, please wait a moment.
• Goku: Who the heck is this guy? Look s like a fat Beerus-sama.
• Champa: ………….
• Vados: Hey now! Don’t be so rude. This is Beerus-sama’s twin brother, Champa-sama
• Goku: Twins!? Really!?
• Vados: Watch your mouth! He’s the God of Destruction for Universe 6.
• Vegeta: What!? A God of Destruction!!
• Goku: !! Wha…Wha?! Who’s stronger, him or Beerus-sama?
• Vados (looking at Champa’s stomach): Why even ask? Can’t you tell just by looking at his physique?
• Champa: Vados!!!
• Vados: Oh! Hohoho…My apologies. By the way, Whis and I are siblings as well. Though I’m a bit more powerful.
• Goku: Geez, I give up! Seems like there’s tons of guys stronger than me!
• Vegeta: …Why do you look so happy about it?
• Whis: Elder Sister, I object! After all, it’s been 1,000 years since you trained me.
• Vados: Fufufu…Do you want to try me?
• Beerus: What do you guys want? Did you just come to talk ****?
• Champa: Hmph! Long time no see, Beerus. Let’s have a showdown like always. Get ready.
• Goku: Showdown?

The cup ramen is lined up next to a rectangular egg

• Champa: Hahahahahaha! Is this just hot water poured into a cup?
• Beerus: What is that?...
• Champa: Give it a taste! My latest discovery, a boiled Don-Don Bird egg! It’s so tasty, you’ll be at a loss for words.
• Goku: So by ‘showdown’ he meant a food showdown?
• Whis: Yes, whenever they meet up it’s always like this.
• Goku: Darn, I thought I was gonna get to see Beerus-sama’s true power.
• Champa: Hahah! Well, how is it?! Shocking, right?! Universe 6 definitely has much tastier food! It’s a paradise!
• Beerus: Fufufu…Just pipe down and eat that, Champa.
• Champa: ……Gulp
• Champa: Muh…
• Beerus: Fufufufuffu, well, how is it?

The two of them greedily devour their food

• Champa: gulp gulp exhales Hmph, not bad, I suppose…
• Beerus: You even drank up the soup.
• Champa: ……Beerus……Where did you get this?
• Beerus: A planet called ‘Earth’.
• Champa: Earth?
• Beerus: It’s not just this. Earth is full of countless tasty things like this!
• Champa: Hey, Vados! There should be an ‘Earth’ in Universe 6 as well. Find it!
• Vados: Yes, right away.
• Vegeta: What’s this ‘Universe 6’ thing they keep mentioning?
• Whis: Didn’t you know? There are twelve universes in total. Ours is Universe 7.
• Vegeta: Universe 7? I’ve never heard that…
• Goku: Now that you mention that, I think I heard this once before…
• Whis: Champa-sama came from Universe 6. The relationship between Universe 6 and Universe 7 is like a pair of twins; they’re practically the same. They generally come in pairs, like two sides of a coin. So for instance, Universe 1 and Universe 12, or Universe 2 and Universe 11. Any two universes whose numbers add up to thirteen form a pair.
• Vegeta: I…I didn’t know…
• Goku: I don’t get this at all. Explain again!
• Vegeta: …I’ll explain it for you later.
• Vados: It’s there, Champa-sama. There’s an Earth in Universe 6 as well.
• Vegeta: What?! There’s really another Earth over there?
• Goku: ……
• Vados: But…Unfortunately, there was an idiotic war on our Earth in the past…and it seems the human race was wiped out.
• Champa: What?!
• Beerus: Hahhahah, too bad, Champa! So you don’t have any humans left to make super-delicious foods!
• Goku: Well, I guess that sort of thing does happen. Our Earth has been in all sorts of tight spots! Heck, even Vegeta tried to destroy it.
• Vegeta: …Don’t dredge up the past.
• Champa: Beerus, let’s have a contest….
• Beerus: Huh? What sort of contest?
• Champa: If I win this martial arts contest, we’ll trade Earths.
• Beerus: Hahahahahaha! Me and you, fight?
• Champa: Not that. It’ll be a contest between select individuals from each of our universes…Yeah, how about a five-person team battle? Members will fight one at a time, and whichever side defeats the team captain first wins. Let’s hold a Universe 6 and 7 God of Destruction Invitational Tournament!
• Goku: (AT LAST!!!

 

[misjuevos]

Very cool. Thanks for the post. ^

 

[Steyin]

So I assume SS Blue is one step up from SS God? SS God SS is pretty funny though.

 

[KevanG]

Yep. SS God SS. Just rolls off the tounge.

 

[Tron Bonne]

So I assume SS Blue is one step up from SS God? SS God SS is pretty funny though.

Basically, Super Saiyan God is like a base reset for a Saiyan, so the Super Saiyan sequence starts over again. That's the way I understand it anyway.

 

[Steyin]

Basically, Super Saiyan God is like a base reset for a Saiyan, so the Super Saiyan sequence starts over again. That's the way I understand it anyway.

So then in terms of "forms" SSG = Base, SSB = SS1, etc..

 

[Tron Bonne]

So then in terms of "forms" SSG = Base, SSB = SS1, etc..

Yeah, I think that's the general idea.

So I think I'm going to rent Resurrection 'F' via Amazon and watch it tonight. I was thinking of buying it and Battle of the Gods, but since Super is going to cover that I think I'll just stick to rental. BOG was much better than I anticipated, so hopefully F will be solid, too.

 

[KevanG]

From what I read in an interview with Toriyama, he doesn't want the SS stages again. Apparently SSGSS was supposed to be the final form of that with nothing else coming next.

Edit: Trying to find the interview.

 

[MadVillainy]

I just saw Resurrection F. Wanted to see it in theaters but there were no showings that worked with my work schedule.

ANyway, it was alright. Of course the fight sequences were crazy good. Humor was still there.
The main complaint, and it's really one Ive had for a while/years, is that I wish they would do more with the non Goku characters.
-Really surprised Trunks and Goten got no screentime.
-Didn't like how Gohan barely went Super Saiyan. Im biased though as he's my favorite character and really theyve been doing that with him for a minute.
-I wish that Goku wouldve turned SSB more "theatrically" I guess. Kinda like how he, Gohan, Vegeta all did when they first went SS
-Also didnt like how Vegeta didnt really have much to do until the end and even then his involvement was kinda lame to me.
-I did really like seeing TIen, Master Roshi, and Krillin kick a lot of ass.

Overall it was good. 7/10. Can't wait for the DBSuper dub though

Yep. SS God SS. Just rolls off the tounge.

Yeah...that name is a mouthful

Basically, Super Saiyan God is like a base reset for a Saiyan, so the Super Saiyan sequence starts over again. That's the way I understand it anyway.

Thanks for explaining it because I didnt completely get it. I thought SSB or whatever was like the fifth form or something

Do you, or anyone, have any idea what SSB mean for the red haired Super Saiyan God form?

 

[Tron Bonne]

From what I read in an interview with Toriyama, he doesn't want the SS stages again. Apparently SSGSS was supposed to be the final form of that with nothing else coming next.

I would be surprised if that ends up being true. I mean, I'm sure he said it, but Toriyama has sort of written himself in a corner in that regards.

Do you, or anyone, have any idea what SSB mean for the red haired Super Saiyan God form?

Are we using SSB to mean SSGSS?

I guess we don't really know for sure at this point. I would assume it's just the next step, but Goku says in Resurrection that it's ability to access it or something like that. So it may be that it's roughly the same level as SSG, but able to be accessed without doing the ritual. I assume that Super will probably go into more detail whenever it gets to that point.

 

[MadVillainy]

I just someone else call it SSB so I used that. That and SSGSS just looks silly to me.

 

[Tron Bonne]

I just someone else call it SSB so I used that. That and SSGSS just looks silly to me.

What is the B, though? Super Saiyan Blue? Lol, it works.

But anyway, I agree about the movie. I watched it last night, found it pretty solid. I have pretty low standards for DBZ movie, though, so there's that.

Probably the oddest omission to me was the total lack of Buu. It's even weirder since Freiza mentions that Buu and Beerus were the only warriors King Cold warned him to never face. That, and I guess he's the strongest on Earth at that time since it seems like Gohan is so rusty he's gotten a downgrade. Didn't care a whole lot for the ending, either. I don't know, just seemed really odd and clumsy to me overall. Loved Frieza's hell.

 

[Orb]

Yes its Super Saiyan Blue now. Chapter 5 of Super has Goku complaining about the overly long SSJGSSJ and Whis proposes Super Saiyan Blue instead. As for Buu, its explained in the Japanese version and the manga that Buu is in hibernation at that point.

 

[KevanG]

You'd think with all this crazy **** happening again Gohan would start working out again. Even if he couldn't hit where he was back in the Cell Games he could at least hit SS2 and be a decent distraction for a while.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Yes its Super Saiyan Blue now. Chapter 5 of Super has Goku complaining about the overly long SSJGSSJ and Whis proposes Super Saiyan Blue instead. As for Buu, its explained in the Japanese version and the manga that Buu is in hibernation at that point.

Oh wow, for real? That is funny.

 

[MadVillainy]

You'd think with all this crazy **** happening again Gohan would start working out again. Even if he couldn't hit where he was back in the Cell Games he could at least hit SS2 and be a decent distraction for a while.

For real.

As I said, he's my favorite character and I hate how he's pretty lame now

 

[Tron Bonne]

I got Extreme Butoden the other day for 3DS and played it some earlier. Overall, it's a pretty fun, if very basic, 2D fighter. The complete lack of localized vocals is a bit jarring, but the overall VO is really minimal so I can understand why they decided not to go that extra step and all.

 

[titansupes]

You'd think with all this crazy **** happening again Gohan would start working out again. Even if he couldn't hit where he was back in the Cell Games he could at least hit SS2 and be a decent distraction for a while.

Gohan can't hit SS2 anymore?

 

[Nathan]

Isn't he still Mystic in the new show?