Driving: Privilege or right?

[The Spawn]

Right.

 

[bullets]

It's a priviledge. They don't just let anyone drive , although it may seem like it.

 

[The Spawn]

Forget "they" or the government.


What do you think?






I ask because someone told me that the age of 20 is useless.

You don't "get to" do anything.

17 you drive. 19 you smoke. 21 you drink.

18 is a whole list of things that are unwritten.

 

[SuperFerret]

Privilege, and one that should be even further restricted. Cars can be just as deadly as guns or any of these other social dangers that politicians are always worried about, yet anybody with half a brain (and most of those with less) can get a driver's license.

 

[SuperFerret]

Forget "they" or the government.


What do you think?






I ask because someone told me that the age of 20 is useless.

You don't "get to" do anything.

17 you drive. 19 you smoke. 21 you drink.

18 is a whole list of things that are unwritten.

I must be a waste of a person. I don't drive, smoke, drink, vote or serve in the military.

 

[The Spawn]

Well, you live in NY.

 

[huskerwebhead]

Privilege, and one that should be even further restricted. Cars can be just as deadly as guns or any of these other social dangers that politicians are always worried about, yet anybody with half a brain (and most of those with less) can get a driver's license.

Well put. Just like guns, cars can be very dangerous in the wrong hands. Someone without proper training or with failing senses (i.e. the elderly) can be extremely dangerous as well. I've been a huge proponent of better testing for people over a certain age. I've seen so many elderly people who shouldn't be driving. Legally blind, literally falling asleep at the wheel, etc. And yet in most cases as long as they don't have any tickets, the DMV just issues them new licenses without any testing.

 

[SuperFerret]

That I do. (Though I'm not entirely sure at what you're getting at. It's been a long day.)

 

[SuperFerret]

Well put. Just like guns, cars can be very dangerous in the wrong hands. Someone without proper training or with failing senses (i.e. the elderly) can be extremely dangerous as well. I've been a huge proponent of better testing for people over a certain age. I've seen so many elderly people who shouldn't be driving. Legally blind, literally falling asleep at the wheel, etc. And yet in most cases as long as they don't have any tickets, the DMV just issues them new licenses without any testing.

I've seen so many healthy adults who shouldn't be driving. Illegal or not, driving backwards the wrong way down a one way street just to get to a parking spot is stupid and dangerous.

 

[The Spawn]

No need to drive in NY really.

But, I haven't even factored in your age.

And you guys are comparing cars to guns....guns are a right.

It is also 1 AM, so I'll be back later.

Have to jog.

 

[Hotwire]

Well put. Just like guns, cars can be very dangerous in the wrong hands. Someone without proper training or with failing senses (i.e. the elderly) can be extremely dangerous as well. I've been a huge proponent of better testing for people over a certain age. I've seen so many elderly people who shouldn't be driving. Legally blind, literally falling asleep at the wheel, etc. And yet in most cases as long as they don't have any tickets, the DMV just issues them new licenses without any testing.

Arizona will issue you a licence that's good for 30 (no, not a typo thirty) years. Chances are, some people with one will expire before the licence does.

 

[Gilpesh]

If people were smarter, I'd vote for 'right'.

But... well, you people have been on the road before.

 

[Addendum]

There's no law that says driving is a right of every citizen. It's a privilege that can be taken away depending on the actions of the driver.

 

[The Spawn]

Says the law.

If the law didn't exist I wonder if anyone would think they even have rights.

 

[Scarlet spidey]

I ask because someone told me that the age of 20 is useless.

You don't "get to" do anything.

17 you drive. 19 you smoke. 21 you drink.

18 is a whole list of things that are unwritten.

16 you drive. 18 you can smoke and vote. 21 you can drink and gamble.
Where do you live?

 

[Morg]

Right.

wrong. It's a privilege, people act like it's their bloody right to drive even drunk drivers

 

[Hotwire]

If the law didn't exist I wonder if anyone would think they even have rights.

No, we wouldn't. We might think we did, but rights are a totaly made up concept. What puts it into widespread practice is writing them down, and punishing those who try to prevent other from doing the things we've given them the right to do. But driving, is by no means a right, because it carries such a huge amount of responsibility, a level I don't think many even comprehend, it is made into a privilege. Once you've given someone a right, you really can't take it back, but a privilage can be taken away when you go out, get drunk, and kill someone while driving on the sidewalk.

 

[SuBe]

It is a privilege. If it is not in the Constitution, it is not a Right. I know they didn't have cars back then, but all Rights are Basic and "god-given". It is a privilege, or you wouldn't have to get a license. You don't have to get a license to practice religon, or to speak, or to assemble or to own a weapon. You don't have to get a license, but if you want to drive, you have to. It's only fair.

 

[huskerwebhead]

Arizona will issue you a licence that's good for 30 (no, not a typo thirty) years. Chances are, some people with one will expire before the licence does.

That's simply ridiculous.

 

[Hotwire]

It is a privilege. If it is not in the Constitution, it is not a Right. I know they didn't have cars back then, but all Rights are Basic and "god-given". It is a privilege, or you wouldn't have to get a license. You don't have to get a license to practice religon, or to speak, or to assemble or to own a weapon. You don't have to get a license, but if you want to drive, you have to. It's only fair.

I agree it is a privilege, but your logic is skewed. I have the right to pursue happiness, as stated in the Decleration of Independence, but according to your post, it's not a right because it's not in the Constitution. And if the 10 rights listed in the Bill of Rights are God-given, show me their corrosponding verses in any religion's holy book. And then explain why different countries have different numbers of rights, and different rights in general.

Oh, and depending on the state you live in, yes, you do need a license to own a gun.

 

[Addendum]

And I would like law-abiding citizens to take a mandatory gun safety course if they want to purchase and own a gun.

 

[Sugarculted]

wrong. It's a privilege, people act like it's their bloody right to drive even drunk drivers

Some think they can drive the drunk? Preposterous

But, its definitely gotta be a privilege. I've been stuck in too many cars with a maniac behind the wheel.

 

[Prison Mike]

Driving is a privilege. Personally, I think they should increase the driving age to 20. 16 year olds behind the wheel try to go as fast as they can. Stupid teenagers.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Totally a privelege

 

[X-Chick]

It's obviously a privilege. The only things that should be considered "rights" are things that humans should innately be able to have or do, such as free will. Driving is merely a convenience and one that not everyone has a right to for various reasons, such as not having a car.