DTL Season 6-Week 3 (Set 2)

[Franklin Richards]

I know Sue often multi tasks her powers that way. Different yes, but still mindful multitasking.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm gonna go with The Yancy Street Gang. Despite the fact that I think Franklin uses Reed a little cheaply and underestimates Cable, his strategy is fundamentally sound. Coupled with the fact that Ahura's strategy just didn't really convince me that it was plausible for taking out some of the Yancies, notably the Flash, who would've likely been psi-shielded, I can't give it to Ahura, even though the power balance is in his favor a bit.

 

[Alex The Great]

I vote the Yancy Street Gang and the Authoritorians

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Ha, you didn't get their name right so the vote goes to me by default!

 

[Alex The Great]

Lies


P.S go to the Discussion thread

 

[Aristotle]

The way Superman-16 absorbs energy, for future reference, is sort of odd. On one level, it seems clear that he can absorb it like anyone else. For dramatic effect, however, he apparently likes to make it a tangible object, and then pull it in like a fishing line. But he just pulls it into his midsection, and absorbs it. It isn't like he eats it or something. The physicalization of energy before absorption is, as near as I can tell, just something he does because it looks cool.

The grabbing of the energy beams, however, is a different story. He wanted to use the energy-beams themselves as weapons. That's why he did it that way that time. The second time, with the radiation, he just absorbed it.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I looked over Countdown: Arena #4 again and Superman-16 mentions adjusting his "chakras" before he can absorb the radiation affecting the other Supermen and again to absorb the quantum energy that Monarch uses--unimpeded by fighting, I might add, since the other Supermen were both unconscious when he did all this. So, like I said, it's not an immediate or automatic thing. He'd need to be exposed to X-Man's psi-energy and have time to himself to adjust his chakras before he could absorb X-Man's energy.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Interesting. And considering he's a Kryptonian, he should be able to take a few hits from anything for him to adjust.

Makes me wonder about magic. Reed says it's just unidentified energy. Could 16 adjust after a few hits?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Magic is treated as its own thing entirely so often that I don't think we could assume he would. Sometimes it's treated as just another form of energy like any scientific energy but from a different source, other times it's treated as the opposite of normal physics, other times it's something wildly different and unquantifiable altogether. The burden of proof is on the assumption that Superman-16 could absorb it, and given that he only has one appearance where he actually uses his powers and magic is nowhere to be seen, I would say there's no basis for that assumption.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Fair enuff. Just speculating via text.


Makes Talisman more valuable anyway.

 

[Aristotle]

I disagree with your analysis on the chakra thing, Corp. The kinds of energy he had to adjust to were not run of the mill types. Psi-energy's going to be a much more regular occurrence, and something he's going to be much more used to.

 

[Khellendros]

Yeah, there's no way you can support the idea that he can pre-adapt himself to an energy type, with no exposure beforehand.

 

[Aristotle]

No, the idea is that for energy types that he's likely to have experienced in life already, he's already prepared for them. It's not like he has to adjust his chakras for yellow sunlight, for example.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

You're making a lot of assumptions there without anything to back them up, but the main two that concern me are:

1) You don't know that he's experienced psi-energy before. New Earth's Superman very, very rarely fights telepaths, so who's to say Superman-16 fights them any more or less often? No one because we know literally nothing about his world other than what Countdown: Arena tells us.

2) You don't know that his chakras necessarily have any kind of "memory," for lack of a better word. He clearly has to adjust himself to absorb only one kind of energy at a time; maybe if he changes from yellow sunlight, he has to re-acclimate himself to yellow sunlight again as if it were the very first time when he wants to absorb that. So even if he had experienced psi-energy before--which, again, we have no way of knowing--there's nothing to concretely prove that he would be able to adjust himself to it any faster or more deftly than he adjusted to the quantum energy of Monarch's arena. Maybe he could, maybe he couldn't. There's no way of knowing because there's nothing in canon to tell us either way.

There are certain advantages to having a character virtually no one knows about because he's only had a few appearances, but there are also some major disadvantages. The fact that the burden of proof on every bit of their powers not directly seen on-panel is entirely on you is a big one.

 

[Aristotle]

I don't think there are many advantages at all to having a virtual unknown. It seems to be a license for anyone to just deny that they have any power at all. It's like the opposite of what people do with mages. With a mage, the owner gets to just decide whatever power they want to use while barely keeping the character under the tuber bar. With an obscure character, the opponent gets to just cancel out whatever power he likes while barely avoiding saying that the character should be thrown out of the League for lack of panel time.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I faced the same thing with that Mjolnir-wielding version of Cap, which is why I ended up dropping him. I'm all for obscure characters, but one comic's worth of feats is rarely enough to give yourself room for debate or speculation on the extent of the character's power.

 

[Alex The Great]

Franklin should just admit that The Invisible Woman is really a man in Boxers wearing a FF uniform with baloons




Like Coach Like Player I always say

 

[Franklin Richards]

Those ain't balloons.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

They don't appear to be separate breasts, either. Her cleavage should go all the way down through that 4. Silly, sloppy Paul Ryan. I never really liked his art.

 

[DTL Commish]

Voting is now closed.

The Polka Dot Fuchsia Lantern Corps: 4
The Authorititans: 3

The Yancy Street Gang: 4
The Immortals: 2

 

[Ahura Mazda]

well done Franklyn and good luck to Alex and khell for the rest of the season.

 

[Franklin Richards]

And to you Ahura. Nice match.