So all superhero movies have dumb moments, therefore why bother?
I wouldn't say that having big coincidences in superhero comics and movies are 'dumb moments' necesarily, all fiction to some extent rests on plot coincidences of varying degrees.
I don't think Ock going looking for PP in the vicinity of his neighbourhood, and throwing a car into the very cafe he was in, was *that* big a coincidence, esp considering that if he did not find Pete there after that car throw, he might have thrown a few other things around to create chaos to draw him or Spider-man out.
and an example of a massive coincidence in fiction, that you may consider dumb(and i personally would not write in such a manner without some mitigating factors), which makes the PP/Ock one feel positively straightforward...Cap Kirk is marooned on a frozen ice planet in JJ's ST, and just happens to be down the road from the cave that old Spock is living in.
and in regards to coincidences in general in fiction... life is full of big coincidences that have an impact on your life, I have run into many myself, you can attribute them to the power of syncronicity, a force that many psychoanalysts and philosophers like Carl Jung consider to be the very fabric that holds our 'intelligent' universe together.
edit: and that can be pushed too far, making the story feel dumb, like the Star Tek example, which they do try to mitigate with a similar type of explanation of the universe bring Kirk and Spock together, but, I think to have a stronger , more believable story, you need more than that with such a plot point, because then you just have lazy writing.
El Payaso said:
On the contrary, his tentacles are very interested in making him repeating the experiment again. Therefore the tentacles are interested in finding Peter alive. Therefore tentacles shouldn't throw cars randomly at areas where Peter could be in, or throwing him in ways that could kill him.
Because we're talking about Artificial Intelligence, not Artificial Stupidity, right?
And no. It's even more dangerous that throwing a car. With the car you can miss. But throwing a human body to a brock wall in such a way it's certain death.
Well, if you want to argue that the arms wanting the experiment to go forward is an intelligent move, but considering that the arms should know fine well that the last attempt at the experiment almost destroyed the city, including themselves, I would say the octo arms were dumb, they have already shown an instinct for self-preservation, in the operating theatre.
So, no, it's not surprising to me that they would be so careless, in either throwing Pete into a wall, or throwing cars around in an area where they could endanger him.
edit: and , i dunno, we are both maybe splitting hairs on what is more dangerous.
edit: But, i will say that the car throw as presented on film, is meant to be taken as the more dangerous act. Maybe you could say that is because MJ is involved too, but I think it's also because the strength that it take the Octo arm to throw a car at that velocity is far more than it took for Pete to be thrown at the wall.
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the only thing that could protect his identity. I guess putting a mask on takes a long long time. But no, because after that Green Goblin makes it to Jameson's office. Peter runs away and finds the time to become Spiderman - mask on and all - in a much shorter time than in the previous occasion.
