Infinity War Dumbest Character of IW :D

[Zant]

Wanda is not the brightest bulb....Apparently the life of a robot is more important than billions of lives.

Black Panther risking the whole of Wakanda, cause robot...Wakanda will end up like Asgard if he keeps up this recklessness.

 

[JeetKuneDo]

An excuse for what? He didn't directly kill half the universe. If Star Lord were a real person it would be wrong to criticise him for having emotions. The moment you do that, the moment you have the Cybermen from Doctor Who taking over mankind.

Everyone has "reasons" for doing really stupid things.

 

[Prueba22]

An excuse for what? He didn't directly kill half the universe. If Star Lord were a real person it would be wrong to criticise him for having emotions. The moment you do that, the moment you have the Cybermen from Doctor Who taking over mankind.

Nobody here have criticized Star Lord for having emotions, we have criticized him for dooming the universe.

No matter how you are feeling or what emotions you are experimenting, you have complete control over your actions, and can (and will) be juzged accordingly.

If you kill someone (or are responsible for the premature death of someone) and your only legal defense is "im a human, i have emotions" bad news, electric chair awaits you.

Or, if you are actually saying the truth and you actually lose control of your own body when you are experimenting emotions ( you want to move your arm in one way but you can only watch in terror as your body moves uncontrollably without responding to your will) then you should go to your doctor and/or psychiatrist ASAP because something is terribly wrong in your mind.

You cant control your emotions, but you CAN control your actions.

We arent judging Starlord emotions, we are judging his actions.

You can be extremely mad with someone, and wanting to kill him/her or just beaten them to a bloody pulp, but you arent forced to anything, you can choose whatever you want to do, and, then, you can and will be judged for it.

Star lord is responsible for the death of billions if not trillions of lives, and that makes him the biggest criminal in the history of mankind.

And no, as any lawyer would told you, having emotions doesnt justify anything, you are responsible for your actions.


To sum up:
Morally, logically AND LEGALLY, you are responsible for your actions, no matter what emotions you were feeling in that moment.

No matter what are you feeling, you can control your actions, even in the worst case scenarios.

We arent judging Starlord emotions, we are judging his actions

 

[RoastBeast]

Wanda is not the brightest bulb....Apparently the life of a robot is more important than billions of lives.

Black Panther risking the whole of Wakanda, cause robot...Wakanda will end up like Asgard if he keeps up this recklessness.

Billions would just be earth, across the universe... is gazillions a real word? All for her Love-Bot. (I don't blame Wanda, though- I blame the people who wrote Wanda. Because I think 'real' Wanda is smarter than this)

 

[Ms. Marvel]

Again technically, the people would have died anyway based on what Dr Strange said. So all these actions are easily redeemable.

 

[Ultra Nolanite]

Nobody here have criticized Star Lord for having emotions, we have criticized him for dooming the universe.

No matter how you are feeling or what emotions you are experimenting, you have complete control over your actions, and can (and will) be juzged accordingly.

If you kill someone (or are responsible for the premature death of someone) and your only legal defense is "im a human, i have emotions" bad news, electric chair awaits you.

Or, if you are actually saying the truth and you actually lose control of your own body when you are experimenting emotions ( you want to move your arm in one way but you can only watch in terror as your body moves uncontrollably without responding to your will) then you should go to your doctor and/or psychiatrist ASAP because something is terribly wrong in your mind.

You cant control your emotions, but you CAN control your actions.

We arent judging Starlord emotions, we are judging his actions.

You can be extremely mad with someone, and wanting to kill him/her or just beaten them to a bloody pulp, but you arent forced to anything, you can choose whatever you want to do, and, then, you can and will be judged for it.

Star lord is responsible for the death of billions if not trillions of lives, and that makes him the biggest criminal in the history of mankind.

And no, as any lawyer would told you, having emotions doesnt justify anything, you are responsible for your actions.


To sum up:
Morally, logically AND LEGALLY, you are responsible for your actions, no matter what emotions you were feeling in that moment.

No matter what are you feeling, you can control your actions, even in the worst case scenarios.

We arent judging Starlord emotions, we are judging his actions

First post and an instant winner. All this talk about poor Star-Lord's feelings just make me roll my eyes.

Trillions of lives... smh

I just really dislike regression of a character. Star-Lord as a character peaked at the end of the first GOTG for me. After that he's just been on a steady decline unfortunately.

 

[WitcherGeralt]

First post and an instant winner. All this talk about poor Star-Lord's feelings just make me roll my eyes.

Trillions of lives... smh

I just really dislike regression of a character. Star-Lord as a character peaked at the end of the first GOTG for me. After that he's just been on a steady decline unfortunately.

Just because he agrees with your opinion doesn't mean he's right. Sometimes we can't just ignore our feelings and take control of our action *cough* Tony *cough* Bucky.

 

[MaceB]

The Star Lord scene is very frustrating. Like... dude... what did you think was going to happen? He basically betrayed his promise to Gamora in more ways than one.

 

[MaceB]

Nobody here have criticized Star Lord for having emotions, we have criticized him for dooming the universe.

No matter how you are feeling or what emotions you are experimenting, you have complete control over your actions, and can (and will) be juzged accordingly.

If you kill someone (or are responsible for the premature death of someone) and your only legal defense is "im a human, i have emotions" bad news, electric chair awaits you.

Or, if you are actually saying the truth and you actually lose control of your own body when you are experimenting emotions ( you want to move your arm in one way but you can only watch in terror as your body moves uncontrollably without responding to your will) then you should go to your doctor and/or psychiatrist ASAP because something is terribly wrong in your mind.

You cant control your emotions, but you CAN control your actions.

We arent judging Starlord emotions, we are judging his actions.

You can be extremely mad with someone, and wanting to kill him/her or just beaten them to a bloody pulp, but you arent forced to anything, you can choose whatever you want to do, and, then, you can and will be judged for it.

Star lord is responsible for the death of billions if not trillions of lives, and that makes him the biggest criminal in the history of mankind.

And no, as any lawyer would told you, having emotions doesnt justify anything, you are responsible for your actions.


To sum up:
Morally, logically AND LEGALLY, you are responsible for your actions, no matter what emotions you were feeling in that moment.

No matter what are you feeling, you can control your actions, even in the worst case scenarios.

We arent judging Starlord emotions, we are judging his actions

I don't think anyone disagrees that we should be judged for our actions. For example, If you are a father of 3 children that were just raped and killed.. and you then retaliated against the murderers.. then yes, you should be held accountable, BUT, I think what people are saying is that emotions DO interact with people's decision making in those kinds of circumstances. It does happen.

Sure, you're responsible for your actions.... it's just that we should also be able to appreciate that extreme emotions can hinder rational thought. We're imperfect... and we all interact to tense situations differently.. some of us run away, or do nothing, or instantly fight, or get emotional... It's not that we shouldn't be judged for it... it's just a little more understandable. Quill did the wrong thing for the right reasons.And frankly, that's what he's known for... he's a guy who listens to his heart.

 

[Zant]

Billions would just be earth, across the universe... is gazillions a real word? All for her Love-Bot. (I don't blame Wanda, though- I blame the people who wrote Wanda. Because I think 'real' Wanda is smarter than this)

Not to mention, the Wanda-Vision thing is forced and barely developed, but hey, her and the Avengers putting gazillions at risk because of a love- bot makes sense....

 

[Y0nder]

Cap said about the Sokovia accords. "These accords take away our right to choose."

He also took away Vision's right to choose, in a way.

 

[jr24tw]

Yeah, I'm sure you'd be thinking rationally enough in order to delay your reaction to a death that you've only just found out about..

I wasn't aware that you knew me personally. So why talk sarcastically about what I would or wouldn't do. You may not believe it but there are people who can keep their emotions in check even in dire situations. Because emotions can make you do stupid things at the wrong time, like when you are trying to stop a maniac from killing half the universe.

And I think you still don't get the problem some people have with what Peter did. I don't think anyone is criticizing him for having human emotions. I'm not. My problem is the utter lack of character growth, where Peter still acts like a 5 year old (also proven earlier in the film with Thor), instantly blowing up without thinking about the repercussions. It's one thing to shoot Ego after hearing about his mother, it's quite another when you are fully aware that the lives of half the universe are directly at stake and messing it all up anyway because like a child, you have no control over your emotions.

(I don't blame Wanda, though- I blame the people who wrote Wanda. Because I think 'real' Wanda is smarter than this)

Same with Gamora. If anyone of the Guardians is capable of detaching her emotions and seeing the bigger picture, it's her. But nope, they turn her into an idiot who decides Nebula>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>half the universe. Which is completely OOC to me.

 

[MaceB]

And I think you still don't get the problem some people have with what Peter did. I don't think anyone is criticizing him for having human emotions. I'm not. My problem is the utter lack of character growth, where Peter still acts like a 5 year old (also proven earlier in the film with Thor), instantly blowing up without thinking about the repercussions. It's one thing to shoot Ego after hearing about his mother, it's quite another when you are fully aware that the lives of half the universe are directly at stake and messing it all up anyway because like a child, you have no control over your emotions.

True. This is definitely an area where Peter is going to have to grow and develop as a character. The man boy thing was super endearing in GOTG1, but it already started to wear thin in 2... and it was pretty painful in Infinity War.
That's good though in a way. Peter has a lot further to go, and I think he can get there. I don't necessarily blame him for his crappy decision... running on emotions is kinda what he's been known for up to this point....It's actually what makes him unique.
I'm just disappointed. This gives a good reason for him to say, okay... I need to grow up. What happened with Gamora might eventually help with that. His actions were simply not heroic in Infinity War, and so hopefully some great growth happens in IW2.

Sidenote: I've always been worried that pop culture got a huge crush on Chris Pratt super fast, but I don't know if he can really sustain it. i suspect that folks will get tired of his particular swagger in a few years. We'll see.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

Since I kept this only to heroes and not villains, I voted Star-Lord since his boneheaded actions were based on selfish, vengeful emotions while others were driven by sacrifice in order to save/protect others in imminent danger.

 

[Prueba22]

Just because he agrees with your opinion doesn't mean he's right. Sometimes we can't just ignore our feelings and take control of our action *cough* Tony *cough* Bucky.

Im actually dead serious, if you cant control youself in X or Y situations, get yourself checked, because you should.

Passional crimes are still crimes.

Check with your lawyer if you honestly think im not right.

I understand the "motivation" behind Starlord actions, but if a doctor have an accident during surgery and kill my mother (example) and my reaction is bombing the high school that his daughter attends, killing hundreds to get revenge, im a monster.

An absolute monster, and i would be judged as such.

 

[unholyrevenger]

Thanos is dumbest character. Finds inifinity to cull half the universe instead of just making more resources.

 

[lukebrodyg]

Thanos is dumbest character. Finds inifinity to cull half the universe instead of just making more resources.

Fair point but I think part of his motive was to prove he was right about what should’ve been done to his home planet.

 

[Abudefduf]

Not saying I agree with the genocidal maniac but, um, killing half the universe is far easier than creating more resources.

 

[Frodo]

To me , Star Lord's actions seemed very consistent with his character. It would be like him to screw up such of momentous moment by attacking Thanos.

Had Thor, Tony, Steve etc done what Star Lord did, it really would have seemed out of character, but for Quill, yeah,... he would totally doom everyone with his hot head.

 

[DalekbusterFitz]

Everyone has "reasons" for doing really stupid things.

Being driven by emotions isn't 'dumb' though, no matter the outcome. Would you call Snape in the Harry Potter series dumb for becoming a dangerous double agent for Dumbledore due to his love for Lily?

 

[DalekbusterFitz]

No matter how you are feeling or what emotions you are experimenting, you have complete control over your actions, and can (and will) be juzged accordingly.

If you've just lost someone, you haven't. In that situation you would be thinking irrationally. Everybody on here would have exactly the same reaction as Star Lord, otherwise they simply wouldn't be human.

If you kill someone (or are responsible for the premature death of someone) and your only legal defense is "im a human, i have emotions" bad news, electric chair awaits you.

At least here in the UK, if you kill someone and it's in self-defence because they killed a loved one and would have otherwise tried to kill you, you would be convicted of manslaughter.

You can be extremely mad with someone, and wanting to kill him/her or just beaten them to a bloody pulp, but you arent forced to anything, you can choose whatever you want to do, and, then, you can and will be judged for it.

Not if said person just killed your loved one, and you feel as though your life is in danger. Everybody on this thread would have reacted exactly the same if they had just found out their loved one had been killed by a mad titan.

Star lord is responsible for the death of billions if not trillions of lives, and that makes him the biggest criminal in the history of mankind.

No he's not, because he didn't wipe out half the universe. Thanos did. Thanos is responsible.

 

[DalekbusterFitz]

I don't think anyone disagrees that we should be judged for our actions. For example, If you are a father of 3 children that were just raped and killed.. and you then retaliated against the murderers.. then yes, you should be held accountable.

I disagree. It would be manslaughter, and to me manslaughter is totally acceptable. I applaud the pensioner who killed the guy who robbed his house the other week, as he acted in self defence and potentially saved his disabled wife's life.

 

[DalekbusterFitz]

I wasn't aware that you knew me personally. So why talk sarcastically about what I would or wouldn't do. You may not believe it but there are people who can keep their emotions in check even in dire situations. Because emotions can make you do stupid things at the wrong time, like when you are trying to stop a maniac from killing half the universe.

And I think you still don't get the problem some people have with what Peter did. I don't think anyone is criticizing him for having human emotions. I'm not. My problem is the utter lack of character growth, where Peter still acts like a 5 year old (also proven earlier in the film with Thor), instantly blowing up without thinking about the repercussions. It's one thing to shoot Ego after hearing about his mother, it's quite another when you are fully aware that the lives of half the universe are directly at stake and messing it all up anyway because like a child, you have no control over your emotions.

So having emotions is acting like a five year old? That's a ridiculous argument. Any other reaction from Star Lord would have been completely unbelievable. He's not a robot, he's a human being.

 

[DalekbusterFitz]

True. This is definitely an area where Peter is going to have to grow and develop as a character. The man boy thing was super endearing in GOTG1, but it already started to wear thin in 2... and it was pretty painful in Infinity War.
That's good though in a way. Peter has a lot further to go, and I think he can get there. I don't necessarily blame him for his crappy decision... running on emotions is kinda what he's been known for up to this point....It's actually what makes him unique.
I'm just disappointed. This gives a good reason for him to say, okay... I need to grow up. What happened with Gamora might eventually help with that. His actions were simply not heroic in Infinity War, and so hopefully some great growth happens in IW2.

Sidenote: I've always been worried that pop culture got a huge crush on Chris Pratt super fast, but I don't know if he can really sustain it. i suspect that folks will get tired of his particular swagger in a few years. We'll see.

Yeah, he totally needs to grow up. Having emotions is only for five year olds. A REAL man acts like a robot.

I am of the male gender and I would much rather act like this forum's definition of a five year old and embrace my emotions rather than go around talking in a monotone voice.

 

[jr24tw]

So having emotions is acting like a five year old? That's a ridiculous argument. Any other reaction from Star Lord would have been completely unbelievable. He's not a robot, he's a human being.

You are ignoring what everybody writes just to repeat the same argument over and over again. What exactly is the aim of your posts? Other than intentionally misreading or misinterpreting what people write to repeat the same thing you said over and over. That's not a discussion.