Infinity War Dumbest Character of IW :D

[legendkillin]

Star-Lord, hands down.

I found that a weird choice by the writers considering he already had the blood of thousands if not millions on his hands after GOTG2. And all because of him 'wanting a daddy' so he ignored all the red flags about Ego.

What? How did he have blood of thousands or millions? All those bones were from dead things way before Star Lord even showed or knew anything about the guy. Those planets that grew in Missouri and other planets were going to grow from Ego anyways and not many seemed to die. Ravengers were turning on each other anyway so none of those deaths are on him either.

 

[jr24tw]

What? How did he have blood of thousands or millions? All those bones were from dead things way before Star Lord even showed or knew anything about the guy. Those planets that grew in Missouri and other planets were going to grow from Ego anyways and not many seemed to die. Ravengers were turning on each other anyway so none of those deaths are on him either.

Because we see the blue stuff plow through people and swallow them up which means death. This happened all across the galaxy even though we only saw a few planets. Peter ignored his own 'I'm not buying it.' and Gamora's bad feelings about Ego, all because he finally got to play catch with daddy. Found his family and all that. Basically he let his daddy issues rule him and others paid the price.

 

[Marvolo]

Because we see the blue stuff plow through people and swallow them up which means death. This happened all across the galaxy even though we only saw a few planets. Peter ignored his own 'I'm not buying it.' and Gamora's bad feelings about Ego, all because he finally got to play catch with daddy. Found his family and all that. Basically he let his daddy issues rule him and others paid the price.

Nonsense. Hes not omniscient. Peter didnt know about all those plants and it wasnt until Ego confessed that Peter knew Ego was bad. Just because he was unsure about Ego's intentions at first and decided to trust him in no way makes him responsible for something he had no knowledge of or control over. Plus you seem to have forgotten that Ego took Peter's power and activated those plants against Peter's will. Peter didnt willingly help Ego activate those plants. And once Peter was free he immediately set about trying to kill Ego. So no he doesnt have the blood of millions on his hands in GOTG 2. Peter was just as much a victim of Ego as his mother and everyone else that were harmed or killed by Ego.



Regarding Eitri, those 300 dwarves as far as I could tell were all of Eitri's people. So Eitri gave Thanos the Gauntlet because he didnt want Thanos to murder all of his people. I don't think Eitri is dumb for trying to stop the genocide and extinction of his people. Eitri was in a desperate and terrible situation and he tried to save his people the only way he could. I'm fairly certain that most humans would do the same thing if an alien was threatening to murder the entire human species.

 

[Captain Marvel]

Eitri seemed less like being dumb and more like Thanos acting somewhat out of character. It's established several times throughout the film that he lets half of his victims go, and he genuinely seems to have no malice or enjoyment in killing people. And he's true to his word, as we see during the fight on Titan, where he spares the lives of the Avengers and Guardians after Doctor Strange gives up the Time Stone.

So the fact that he made a bargain with Eitri and then slaughtered his race anyway seemed kind of weird. I can only assume this is because he didn't want them to be able to forge a weapon that could potentially ruin his plans.

Didn't Eitri say there were 300 Dwarves there? So while Thanos killed them all, there's no way that was the sum total of the Dwarven race, or even a significant portion. So Thanos killing them all makes sense. He's not exterminating a race, but killing the people who had knowledge of the workings of a particular facility.

 

[legendkillin]

Because we see the blue stuff plow through people and swallow them up which means death. This happened all across the galaxy even though we only saw a few planets. Peter ignored his own 'I'm not buying it.' and Gamora's bad feelings about Ego, all because he finally got to play catch with daddy. Found his family and all that. Basically he let his daddy issues rule him and others paid the price.

I suppose Mantis does too according to your way of thinking since she knew the whole time. I mean she could have easily put him in sleep and stabbed him or killed him some other way.

 

[jr24tw]

Nonsense. Hes not omniscient. Peter didnt know about all those plants and it wasnt until Ego confessed that Peter knew Ego was bad. Just because he was unsure about Ego's intentions at first and decided to trust him in no way makes him responsible for something he had no knowledge of or control over. Plus you seem to have forgotten that Ego took Peter's power and activated those plants against Peter's will. Peter didnt willingly help Ego activate those plants. And once Peter was free he immediately set about trying to kill Ego. So no he doesnt have the blood of millions on his hands in GOTG 2. Peter was just as much a victim of Ego as his mother and everyone else that were harmed or killed by Ego.

My point is that Peter's daddy issues overruled his correct instincts and effectively isolated him from everyone around him which allowed Ego to have so much alone time with Peter in the first place. That's how we even get to the point where Ego can use him as a battery. If Peter had trusted his gut instinct (which was correct about Ego) who knows how it would have went.

I suppose Mantis does too according to your way of thinking since she knew the whole time. I mean she could have easily put him in sleep and stabbed him or killed him some other way.

Mantis wasn't the one who royally screwed up in IW. If she did then I would have something to say about the writers choice of doing that to her character after what happened in GOTG2.

 

[Marvolo]

Didn't Eitri say there were 300 Dwarves there? So while Thanos killed them all, there's no way that was the sum total of the Dwarven race, or even a significant portion. So Thanos killing them all makes sense. He's not exterminating a race, but killing the people who had knowledge of the workings of a particular facility.

If there were other Dwarves Eitri wouldnt have have stayed there by himself and let the forge go cold.

 

[legendkillin]

Didn't Eitri say there were 300 Dwarves there? So while Thanos killed them all, there's no way that was the sum total of the Dwarven race, or even a significant portion. So Thanos killing them all makes sense. He's not exterminating a race, but killing the people who had knowledge of the workings of a particular facility.

He killed all the ones that were there except Eitri. He even mentions them being all killed even though he made the gauntlet for Thanos. We don't know if some are on other planets but they wouldn't go back to a dead place.

 

[Bren]

Of course we don't know how the Dwarves' 'work' but I struggle to think the 300 dwarves at the Forge was their entire race. Of course, I do miss things in films so maybe that's what he said?

 

[TheJediBrah]

If Thor is going to throw his axe it's going to be easier for him to aim for the center rather than the head when he only has one eye.

He had 2 eyes

 

[Verick808]

Dumbest move was Peter losing his cool at exactly the worst moment. I don't hold it against him as a character too much because it was understandable. Second dumbest was Gamora. I get not wanting to watch your sister die a very horrific and painful death but when you weigh it against half the life in the universe?
On the flip side I was impressed by both Peter and Scarlet Witch. They both did what needed to be done when the time came.

 

[X-Ray]

Star Lord for losing his cool when Iron Man and Spidey almost had it off. Tony would have been justified if he had chosen to blast him with a stunner to keep him in check. Star Lord gets credit for the plan though.

As for why Thanos didn't do to them what he did to Drax and Mantis on Knowhere. Credit that to Strange who told them to not allow Thanos to close his fist.

 

[Y0nder]

Characters are flawed the same way we are flawed. That's the point... if all of them would act rational there wouldn't be a plot to begin with.

*mic drop*

 

[TheVileOne]

The whole universe got wiped out because Quill is an idiot. The Avengers lost because of Star-Lord. Kevin Bacon would be ashamed.

 

[Zarex]

I felt the problem with Peter's bad decision was that it wasn't a "bang bang" play like his initial attack on Ego. If he saw Mantis's tears and immediately started pumping bullets into Thanos the scene would have made more sense. Star-Lord questioning Thanos while his heroic teammates were struggling to defeat God and imploring him to keep his cool was too drawn out. He had time to make the right choice and chose not to. I wish the Russos had sped up the scene and had Peter come off less foolish.

 

[warhorse78]

Actually ganora, all she had to do was not go to where thanos was and he would never of got the stone.

Yeah, I have to go with Gamora. Starlord would have gone with Thor and Rocket if Gamora didn't have this idea of going to Nowhere.

 

[Guts]

He had 2 eyes

Yep. One working eye connected to his brain and another fake eye he got from from Rocket that he can't see out of.

 

[The Sand Master]

Not close. Starlord. He was at his dumbest/most selfish in the very moment when Thanos was about to be defeated. And he knew exactly what was at stake....half the life in the universe. No excuse for that level of selfishness.

Agreed, Star-Lord for this very reason.

 

[WitcherGeralt]

I still can't believe how they can make Mantis's actually helpful lol.

 

[scarlet-witch]

Star Lord hands down. They could've ended Thanos right then and there if he had kept his emotions in check.

 

[Still Wynning]

Just leave it here.

I would remove that due to language. You’ll get in trouble with the mods.

 

[LvtLeeTDK]

I would remove that due to language. You’ll get in trouble with the mods.

The bad words actually make it funny

 

[Murdock103]

Yep. One working eye connected to his brain and another fake eye he got from from Rocket that he can't see out of.

I pretty sure he can see out of the eye.
When he puts it in, he says ‘it’s not working, it’s all dark’.
Then rocket says ‘no it’s working, it’s just dark’.

This isn’t a glass eye Thor got. It was a robotic eye that let him see again.

 

[WitcherGeralt]

Gotta say Nebula is up there with Star Lord tho. If she hadn't tried to kill Thanos by herself and got captured, Thanos would have had no idea where the Soul Stone was.

 

[Loki882]

Starlord, and it's actually one of biggest peeves with the film. It's like he learned nothing from past events.

Nebula to a degree. She impulsively tries to kill Thanos herself, and gets captured and sets the Soul Stone thing in motion.