Escape from New York (Remake)

[Advanced Dark]

i think this dude would make a good president...

 

[Advanced Dark]

Kurt calms down a bit on Escape from NY but still obviously not so happy:

http://www.vh1.com/movies/news/articles/1555638/20070326/story.jhtml?rsspartner=rssMozilla

Kurt Russell Skeptical Of 'Escape From New York' Remake: 'Nothing Is Sacred'

'It will be interesting to see what they do with it,' says 'Grindhouse' star.

by Larry Carroll

Kurt Russell (MTV News)

BEVERLY HILLS, California — In 1981, Kurt Russell created the iconic antihero Snake Plissken in "Escape From New York," a tough-talking badass who halfheartedly accepted his mission with the statement: "I don't give a f--- about your war... or your president."

Now, the 56-year-old veteran actor is showing that there's plenty of Snake left in him. "F---ing do a cameo?" the "Grindhouse" star said repeatedly when asked whether he'd take on a small role to give his blessing to the recently announced "Escape From New York" remake. "Oh, f--- no!"

Earlier this month, news leaked that an "Escape" remake was being shopped around Hollywood with Neal Moritz ("The Fast and the Furious") set to produce and writer Ken Nolan ("Black Hawk Down") handling the script. New Line Cinema has since won the battle to reimagine the classic geek flick about a surly ex-military man/ convict offered his freedom in exchange for rescuing the president from the futuristic prison-island of Manhattan. But for Russell, the Snake of "Escape From New York" and the 1996 sequel "Escape From L.A." is the only real deal, and "300" star Gerard Butler needs to put the eye-patch down and back away (see "Minds Behind '300' Reveal Real News About 'Sin City 2,' 'Watchmen' In Virtual World").

"I always saw Snake Plissken as one thing in particular, and that was American," the actor said. "So, for him being not American, or him being played by someone who is not American? It will be interesting to see what they do with it," he sighed. "Whatever."

Butler, who is Scottish, would be stepping into the leather boots of what is arguably Russell's most famous character. But in the eye of the 40-year Hollywood veteran, movies like "Grindhouse" are showing that he's still a credible action star (see "Fergie Helping Tarantino, Rodriguez 'Grind' Out Horror Flick").

" 'Escape From Earth,' " Russell laughed when asked about his next project, naming the long-rumored third "Escape" film that he had once expected to begin shooting right around now.

Instead, Russell's co-conspirator John Carpenter will serve as executive producer on the remake. "Look, I created the role with John Carpenter," Russell said. "That will never change for me. Ours is ours. Ours is what it was, it's out there. If you want to watch it, it's still there."

When asked if he'd buy a ticket to see Butler's take on Snake, Russell seemed conflicted. "No," he said flatly, and then amended his statement. "I mean ... I'll see. I'll probably see it. I'm sure I will. I have a natural interest in it."

Ultimately, the star said that he's learned a valuable lesson over the last few years. "Nothing is sacred," he said with a half-grin. "We did ours, they're going to do theirs."

Even Kurt admits he'll buy a ticket to see the remake. This remake takes nothing away from his efforts. It actually brings more attention to the original which will probably be re-releaesd on DVD. Kurt will still always be Snake.

 

[ghost_x]

I'm sure Kurt wasn't saying all that when he was offered to remake The Thing, and before anyone says it wasn't it very much was a remake

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ To me a remake is another attempt on the same premise. I enjoyed the 50's film but Kurts film was far superior. If it's based on the same subject it's a remake of the subject but not the film. However Kurt's film would probably have not happened the way it did without the original film as somewhat of an influence. Surely Tim Burton was inspired by the original Gene Wilder movie when he made his remake. It's not a remake of the film but of the book. One director took it in one direction and another...stayed more true to the source.

 

[ghost_x]

Right, well than he still can't complain because EFNY is not a remake

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ Well nothing is an exact remake not even Psycho. EFNY isn't either. It's taking the first film and building on it and around it. I see nothing wrong with that. I just pray it's done right.

 

[Noir]

^ Well nothing is an exact remake not even Psycho. EFNY isn't either. It's taking the first film and building on it and around it. I see nothing wrong with that. I just pray it's done right.

I Second that.

 

[ghost_x]

^ Well nothing is an exact remake not even Psycho. EFNY isn't either. It's taking the first film and building on it and around it. I see nothing wrong with that. I just pray it's done right.

Exactly, which supports my statement that Kurt has no real reason to be *****ing about it....

Night Of The Living Dead was an EXACT remake though

 

[cryptic name]

Right, well than he still can't complain because EFNY is not a remake

yes it is, because there's no other source material to base it on. The Thing was a short story called "Who Goes There?" and obviously Charlie and The Chocolate Factory was also a book. but Escape is it's own thing.

 

[ghost_x]

I'm basing the phrase Remake on Advanced Dark's definition of the word.

 

[cryptic name]

Terrence Howard would make a great Duke

Any one think Malcom Mcdowell should just be the next Donald Pleasence and play the presedent

he needs the ability to say anything and make it sound creepy before he can be donald pleasence

 

[ghost_x]

Watch A Clockwork Orange for proof of that

 

[DorkyFresh]

alright, let's try this again...hehe

this guy for the president!!!

there...did any of those get through?

 

[ghost_x]

Baldwins a badass,

I'm going to have to rename him to Badass Baldwin

 

[DorkyFresh]

Baldwin would make a great president...





...in real life, hehe.

 

[cryptic name]

Watch A Clockwork Orange for proof of that

nah, he said and did creepy things in Clockwork Orange, and therefore his character made things seem creepy. donald pleasance could say "i'm going to get some bacon" and have it be creepy

 

[ghost_x]

I'm sorry but he made the most seemingly innocent lines such as 'What you got back home, little sister, to play your fuzzy warbles on? I bet you got, say, pitiful, portable picnic players. Come with uncle and hear all proper! Hear angels' trumpets and devils' trombones. You are invited! ' seem sadistic. He was pure brilliance

 

[Advanced Dark]

Exactly, which supports my statement that Kurt has no real reason to be *****ing about it....

Night Of The Living Dead was an EXACT remake though

Nothing is exact.

 

[ghost_x]

Apart from the colour and perhaps one shot towards the end it was a near frame by frame, nit pick all you want

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ I'm messing around. Jeez. I'm the furthest thing for a nitpicker.

 

[ghost_x]

I know I know. Not a nit picker?

 

[Kent]

Well, I'm gonna chip in here and say I don't mind the idea of a remake/re-imagining one bit. I always felt Snake Plissken is the kind of character that deserves multiple movies (where only one is based on the concept of "Escape" )...
Whether the idea will be taken to its full potential is a different thing altogether though.
Neal Moritz is hardly someone I hold in high regard (the Fast and the Furious was a festering pile of dog ****), but if they get a good director, it could turn out alright.

 

[Michael Allred]

You were telling that guy not to critisize it.

Ok, is EVERYBODY here that thick? I was obviously mocking him, using his own words against him.....that kinda thing. Get it now?

 

[Michael Allred]

He's not writing it and he's directing it either. However he did produce Saving Silverman which is pure gold. Also I wouldn't be surprised if they got Vin Diesel to play Duke.

You joke but you KNOW Moritz wants Diesel in it.

Ok ok, you want something positive outta me about this remake? Well....maybe Paramount will get off it's ass and re-release "Escape from LA" as a special edition DVD when the remake hits theaters.

and BTW, for those of you who consistently trash "LA," you might wanna look at the studio for screwing Carpenter over big time on that one. We can start with them slashing the budget.....

 

[Advanced Dark]

I'm not joking. I honestly would not mind Diesel as Duke. The budget had nothing to do with Escape From LA's trashiness. It was all about the stupid script. It was a parody of the first film. Carpenter said so himself that the whole sub scene in the beginning was a joke about Hollywood as was the plastic surgeon thing w/Bruce Campell. Then he just replaced scenes from the original with worse versions. Instead of the fight...we get the basketball thing, instead of the glider we get a horrible cartoon sub entry, instead of "I thought you were dead" it was "I thought you were taller". It was not a dark serious or scary film like the first. It was a joke. Now parts of it were cool like the very end where he suprisingly (LOL) switched mini-cd's to EMP the Earth. It was bad. The idea of LA as a prison made more sense than NY with the Earthquake and all but from that point on it was all downhill. Then when I saw Stacy Keach I almost walked out.

Come to think of it...it makes more sense to remake Escape from LA as an origin story. How are you going to explain to today's audience that NY was just walled off and turned into a prison unless they use terror attacks as making it unihabitable for the civilized world.